Gary Parrish's take on BP and Tennessee

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Shaun1985 said:
No. Very much incorrect. What he should of said was UT was limited to MVC coaches due to the amount of money they were willing to pay. We had plenty of chances to land top notch talent.
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Yes, the Beavis and Butthead running the UTAD at the time, Cheek and Hamilton, were talking, flipping buggers, peeing in their pants saying huh,huh, yeah man, th th this is ju just what wwwwwe want. And we can get him cheap. Yeah man---and we got Dooley, tttttto and heh heh heh Raleigh to boot. Cool man. burp.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Folks, you are to dismiss the comments regarding Petrino. Per bball forum leaders, we have been told not to mention Pearl and Petrino in the same sentence.

Proceed.
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Sparty, I generally like your commentary, but explain to me how the two situations are really all that similar.

I only ask because I take exception with your passive-aggressive "bball forum leaders" comment (assuming you are painting me with that broad stroke) as some VolNation Gestapo, because I have voiced my opinion on several occasions that I believe the two scenarios are an apples and oranges conversation.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Jurich took the emotion out of it, swallowed his pride and made the best hire for his university.

UT needs to do the same thing.

The reasons that Petrino wasn't at Louisville and Pearl isn't at Tennessee aren't the same. NOBODY THINKS THEY ARE THE SAME.

However, the reason that Petrino is now back at Louisville and the reason Pearl should be hired back at Tennessee ARE THE SAME!! They are the best coach for the job. PERIOD.
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The reasoning for each man's respective departure doesn't justify equality for their respective return.

I get that hiring Pearl may be in the best interest of Tennessee basketball, but you can't disassociate what he did to get fired at Tennessee with any reasoning for rehiring him. The two will always be interrelated. That is the inherent difference in the Petrino vs Pearl argument to me.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Sparty, I generally like your commentary, but explain to me how the two situations are really all that similar.

I only ask because I take exception with your passive-aggressive "bball forum leaders" comment (assuming you are painting me with that broad stroke) as some VolNation Gestapo, because I have voiced my opinion on several occasions that I believe the two scenarios are an apples and oranges conversation.
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Not you at all man. There is one kid who thinks he is king here and he has lol'd at every post mentioning Petrino and how stupid it is to mention his name. Now we have national media bringing it up weeks later.
Just pointing how his string of being wrong keeps going and going. And it won't stop until he shuts up.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Not you at all man. There is one kid who thinks he is king here and he has lol'd at every post mentioning Petrino and how stupid it is to mention his name. Now we have national media bringing it up weeks later.
Just pointing how his string of being wrong keeps going and going. And it won't stop until he shuts up.
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Gotcha. We're good then.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You've admitted they're both great coaches, at the very least equal....you've admitted Pearl could command $2.5+, how much are you saying Marshall could pull then? 3+?
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It's all about timing. Pearl could get hired for 1.5 as well. It's all about who wants him and what jobs open. I'm not speculating numbers. If Marshall gets an offer, Wichita would have to match it for a good bit. That's what drives the prices up on these coaches in many cases. Pearl wouldn't have that luxury. He's not coaching.
 
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cncchris33 said:
The reasoning for each man's respective departure doesn't justify equality for their respective return.

I get that hiring Pearl may be in the best interest of Tennessee basketball, but you can't disassociate what he did to get fired at Tennessee with any reasoning for rehiring him. The two will always be interrelated. That is the inherent difference in the Petrino vs Pearl argument to me.
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The reason to bring Bruce back to UT is the same as the reason UL brought Petrino back. Best coach for the job. That's all I'm saying.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If CBP is gonna be such a hot commodity why would he be so cheap?
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He has very little bargaining power considering the 3 year show cause. He does not have the bargaining power or position as say a Gregg Marshall or pretty much any other up and coming basketball coach.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Well my tangent stemmed from this quote..:



If you're gonna have to pay Pearl 2.5-3 million, I would rather get Marshall for 2.5 and less baggage, but that's jmo.

My whole point was Pearl isn't gonna be cheap if he's truly the hot commodity and top 10 coach people are calling him. And I can assure you, he's not gonna give Tennessee some multi million dollar discount. Lol
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So you dont think that the Shockers are going to increase Marshall's salary and buy out after this year to ward off would be suitors???
 
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IMO - Tennessee is not going to spend 2.0 to 2.5 million on any coach as a starting salary for the bball program.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
The reason to bring Bruce back to UT is the same as the reason UL brought Petrino back. Best coach for the job. That's all I'm saying.
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I get that part of the argument, but I don't believe you can just ignore the circumstances of each coach's departure in an effort to make that claim. I feel that is what you are doing in your above statement, even if inadvertently.

And to be clear, I'm not disagreeing that either coach is the best man for the job.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I get that part of the argument, but I don't believe you can just ignore the circumstances of each coach's departure in an effort to make that claim. I feel that is what you are doing in your above statement, even if inadvertently.

And to be clear, I'm not disagreeing that either coach is the best man for the job.
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I think people are getting hung up on the details of Pearl's situation. Is it as simple as bringing Petrino back? Maybe not. But if you're interested in winning, the choice is simple.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Is it as simple as bringing Petrino back? Maybe not.
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That's all I'm saying. The two scenarios are not nearly as comparable as some people want to believe. The details of Pearl's departure from Tennessee are important to consider when discussing his return to Tennessee. In that sense, Bobby Petrino's departure and return to Louisville are not really similar at all.

Having said that, I agree with you that if winning is paramount above all else, Pearl is a proven commodity at Tennessee like Petrino was at Louisville.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I think people are getting hung up on the details of Pearl's situation. Is it as simple as bringing Petrino back? Maybe not. But if you're interested in winning, the choice is simple.
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Agree, BP may not be the savior for UT basketball in the near term, but currently he is the best hire for the job.

His starting salary will be moderate, not exorbitant,
Attendance will dramatically increase in Thompson Boiling, And the type of player that BP recruits will be more in line with a faster paced basketball that is played today. Both on the high school and colligate level.

Have a representative that reports directly to the NCAA while BP is actively recruiting and reports back to the administration to set their minds at ease, pay him 50k a year and be done with this and get UT basketball back to winning.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
And the two scenarios are not nearly as different as some people want to believe.
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From what I'm reading here though, your only justification for saying so is based on an affinity for Pearl, and in the opinion that both he and Petrino are natural fits, perhaps even perfect fits for the respective job (and in Pearl's case, potential job). That is literally where the similarities seem to end.

Meanwhile, the facts surrounding each coach's career timeline would suggest their circumstances are almost entirely different. So, I'll continue to believe their respective situations, at best, are considerably more different than similar, and we can agree to disagree.

We good?
 
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cncchris33 said:
From what I'm reading here though, your only justification for saying so is based on an affinity for Pearl, and in the opinion that both he and Petrino are natural fits, perhaps even perfect fits for the respective job (and in Pearl's case, potential job). That is literally where the similarities seem to end.

Meanwhile, the facts surrounding each coach's career timeline would suggest their circumstances are almost entirely different. So, I'll continue to believe their respective situations, at best, are considerably more different than similar, and we can agree to disagree.

We good?
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Yeah. I think the breakdown in this whole Petrino/Pearl thing is that those who don't like the comparison are making it to complicated. Meanwhile, those who are using the comparison may be oversimplifying it or at least it appears that way to those who disagree.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
It's all about timing. Pearl could get hired for 1.5 as well. It's all about who wants him and what jobs open. I'm not speculating numbers. If Marshall gets an offer, Wichita would have to match it for a good bit. That's what drives the prices up on these coaches in many cases. Pearl wouldn't have that luxury. He's not coaching.
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Pearl could get teams into a bidding war, no?

If he's the hottest name on the market, you're telling me only 1 or 2 schools would want him?
 
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