Georgia does not deserve the Sugar Bowl

I'm not sure if phrased the question wrong and if I did, that's an error on my part...But what I was aking was, did Richt ever have a HOME loss to a team that was worse than this years edition of South Carolina?
Literally every coach has had a bad loss. Saban to Louisiana Monroe at home, Orgeron to Troy at home, Spurrier lost to the Citadel at home (lol), Meyer got boat raced by Purdue, Dabo got 70 dropped on him in a bowl game, and Richt lost to a bad GT/SC team at home. So are you calling all of those coaches bad?
 
Literally every coach has had a bad loss. Saban to Louisiana Monroe at home, Orgeron to Troy at home, Spurrier lost to the Citadel at home (lol), Meyer got boat raced by Purdue, Dabo got 70 dropped on him in a bowl game, and Richt lost to a bad GT/SC team at home. So are you calling all of those coaches bad?
Not really answering the question, my friend.
 
For the sake of the fairest comparison, Kirby took over a team that went 10-3 each of the previous two years and won 44 of 56. Richt took over a team that went 8-4 each of the previous two years and he won 42 of 52.

Who played tougher schedules? Tennessee was obviously much better back in the day. Auburn was probably slightly better. Florida was probably about the same back then? GT was better back then, too. Those are your big 4 opponents every year.
Fulmer was falling off at UT, Zook was at UF, GT was bad, and Auburn was worse. Mullen is better than Zook, PJ won more ACC titles than the previous coachdid prior to his arrival, Auburn has been better under Malzahn. So Richt had a better UT, worse UF, worse GT, and worse Auburn. On top of that Smart has beaten more ranked teams and has a better record against top 10 opponents. In particular UGA played more top 10 and ranked opponents overall in 2017 than they did in 2002.
 
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Not really answering the question, my friend.
How am I not? I just listed multiple great coaches with equally bad, some worse like Spurrier and the Citadel, and mentioned that Richt also lost at home to a USC with a losing record and GT with a losing record. Using your logic, any coach with a bad loss isn’t a good coach. So apparently Saban, Meyer, Spurrier, Dabo, Richt, and Smart are all bad. I’m sure I can go find a bad loss for Mullen at home during his MSU days as well. Do you now see how small sample sizes and broad generalizations don’t make for a sound argument?
 
Fulmer was falling off at UT, Zook was at UF, GT was bad, and Auburn was worse. Mullen is better than Zook, PJ won more ACC titles than the previous coachdid prior to his arrival, Auburn has been better under Malzahn. So Richt had a better UT, worse UF, worse GT, and worse Auburn. On top of that Smart has beaten more ranked teams and has a better record against top 10 opponents. In particular UGA played more top 10 and ranked opponents overall in 2017 than they did in 2002.
No they haven't been, that's a lie...Auburn was a force under Tuberville the first few years Richt was there.
Also, Fulmer might have been trending down, but they were still a very competent top 25 program during those first few years of Richt as well.
 
How am I not? I just listed multiple great coaches with equally bad, some worse like Spurrier and the Citadel, and mentioned that Richt also lost at home to a USC with a losing record and GT with a losing record. Using your logic, any coach with a bad loss isn’t a good coach. So apparently Saban, Meyer, Spurrier, Dabo, Richt, and Smart are all bad. I’m sure I can go find a bad loss for Mullen at home during his MSU days as well. Do you now see how small sample sizes and broad generalizations don’t make for a sound argument?
I'm sure you can, but what's they key detail in that?...That's right, it's Mississippi State.
 
No they haven't been, that's a lie...Auburn was a force under Tuberville the first few years Richt was there.
Also, Fulmer might have been trending down, but they were still a very competent top 25 program during those first few years of Richt as well.
What? Malzahn took Auburn further than Tuberville ever did and Auburn was a playoff contender Smart’s second year... Tuberville’s best season at Auburn was 04, which would’ve been Richt’s third year. Auburn was a top 10 team for 2 of Smart’s first four years at UGA.
 
I'm sure you can, but what's they key detail in that?...That's right, it's Mississippi State.
I don’t follow UF, so I don’t know who Mullen has lost to during his time there. I do know that Smart is 3-0 against Mullen overall and 2-0 during his time at UF. Not a good look for Mullen if Kirby is as bad as you say he is.
 
Fulmer was falling off at UT, Zook was at UF, GT was bad, and Auburn was worse. Mullen is better than Zook, PJ won more ACC titles than the previous coachdid prior to his arrival, Auburn has been better under Malzahn. So Richt had a better UT, worse UF, worse GT, and worse Auburn. On top of that Smart has beaten more ranked teams and has a better record against top 10 opponents. In particular UGA played more top 10 and ranked opponents overall in 2017 than they did in 2002.

I'm comparing their first 4 years

Tennessee was 39-13 and was 25-24 these last few years, so yeah, we were much better back then
Florida was 33-17 and was 34-16 these last few years, so yeah, Florida was about the same
Auburn was 37-14 and was 35-18 these last few years, so yeah, slightly better back then
GT was 29-22 and was 24-25 these last few years, so yeah, they were better back then

The fact that you contested each of my completely accurate examples indicates you're not worth chatting with.
 
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I don’t follow UF, so I don’t know who Mullen has lost to during his time there. I do know that Smart is 3-0 against Mullen overall and 2-0 during his time at UF. Not a good look for Mullen if Kirby is as bad as you say he is.
Maybe...But then again, I'm not claiming Dan is an elite coach with ZERO empirical evidence to back it up.
 
I'm comparing their first 4 years

Tennessee was 39-13 and was 25-24 these last few years, so yeah, we were much better back then
Florida was 33-17 and was 34-16 these last few years, so yeah, Florida was about the same
Auburn was 37-14 and was 35-18 these last few years, so yeah, slightly better back then
GT was 29-22 and was 24-25 these last few years, so yeah, they were better back then

The fact that you contested each of my completely accurate examples indicates you're not worth chatting with.
lol the only major difference is UT. If you want to argue that Zook is a better coach than Mullen or Tuberville better than Malzahn, be my guest. You’re also still ignoring that UGA played better ooc teams during Smart’s first 4 years. Find me the two top 10 ranked ooc games Richt had on his schedule. Try harder. Smart had more ranked wins and more top 10 wins than Richt in their first four years. Good idea to quit while you’re behind.
 
lol the only major difference is UT. If you want to argue that Zook is a better coach than Mullen or Tuberville better than Malzahn, be my guest. You’re also still ignoring that UGA played better ooc teams during Smart’s first 4 years. Find me the two top 10 ranked ooc games Richt had on his schedule. Try harder. Smart had more ranked wins and more top 10 wins than Richt in their first four years. Good idea to quit while you’re behind.
Mark Richt got too complacent just like Phil Fulmer
 
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Why would he leave a starting job at UGA to sit out a year and go to UT? I could see it if UGA was 7-5 and UT was regularly competing for the SECC and playoffs berths, but that's not the case. On top of that UGA is regularly putting o-lineman in the NFL. Isaiah Wynn was a first round pick, Galliard was drafted, and Andrew Thomas and Isaiah Wilson will go in the first round.
Multiple reasons which have been stated by many the last 3 weeks.
 
Maybe...But then again, I'm not claiming Dan is an elite coach with ZERO empirical evidence to back it up.
Where did I say Kirby is an elite head coach? I just said he was better than Richt and the fact he made it to the natty, beat more top 10 teams, beat more ranked teams, and won the East 3 consecutive years would qualify as empirical data. You have said Kirby would fail elsewhere with ZERO empirical data to back it up.
 
Why would he leave a starting job at UGA to sit out a year and go to UT? I could see it if UGA was 7-5 and UT was regularly competing for the SECC and playoffs berths, but that's not the case. On top of that UGA is regularly putting o-lineman in the NFL. Isaiah Wynn was a first round pick, Galliard was drafted, and Andrew Thomas and Isaiah Wilson will go in the first round.
We can put OL in the NFL. Just need the players. If Mays was to transfer here it would not be because of how the Bulldogs and Vols have performed the last couple of years. It would be for other reasons like family, coaches, location and direction of the program going forward.
 
We can put OL in the NFL. Just need the players. If Mays was to transfer here it would not be because of how the Bulldogs and Vols have performed the last couple of years. It would be for other reasons like family, coaches, location and direction of the program going forward.
Fair enough.
 
So because message board speculation? Ya, I just don’t see it happening. Wouldn’t make since for him to sit out a year when he would play 1 more at UGA then to pro.
Well their was one poster which I believe is held in high regard that stated he may be granted a waiver where he would not have to sit out a year and it is not the graduate transfer waiver.
 
Where did I say Kirby is an elite head coach? I just said he was better than Richt and the fact he made it to the natty, beat more top 10 teams, beat more ranked teams, and won the East 3 consecutive years would qualify as empirical data. You have said Kirby would fail elsewhere with ZERO empirical data to back it up.
I never said he'd fail anywhere to my knowledge, I said he's not elite...I actually don't think he's a bad coach, nor did I think Richt was a bad coach...For what Georgia is and has been, they killed it, much props for that...It's just the haughtiness and unrealistic expectations of Georgia fans that make me roll my eyes...Enjoy what you have with Smart, even if he starts to dip a little like Richt, because third time isn't always the charm, and you certainly don't wanna end up with Ray Goff again because you forgot who you were and tried to once again hire your Saban.

*EDIT* I misread that, and yes, I did say he'd fail elsewhere.
 
Well their was one poster which I believe is held in high regard that stated he may be granted a waiver where he would not have to sit out a year and it is not the graduate transfer waiver.
Maybe due to Pittman leaving, but that wouldn’t be a slam dunk either. I guess we’ll find out in a few months.
 
I never said he'd fail anywhere to my knowledge, I said he's not elite...I actually don't think he's a bad coach, nor did I think Richt was a bad coach...For what Georgia is and has been, they killed it, much props for that...It's just the haughtiness and unrealistic expectations of Georgia fans that make me roll my eyes...Enjoy what you have with Smart, even if he starts to dip a little like Richt, because third time isn't always the charm, and you certainly don't wanna end up with Ray Goff again because you forgot who you were and tried to once again hire your Saban.

*EDIT* I misread that, and yes, I did say he'd fail elsewhere.
The UGA fans who think or thought he was the next Saban are/were ridiculous. He’s had a successful first 4 years, but the jury is absolutely still out. Malzahn made the natty his first year and never recreated, except for a close return in 2017. My bad for coming aggressive earlier lol. I didn’t see the conversation with the previous poster and started off your last post. Smart needs an elite OC to have a run, while Mullen has the opposite situation and needs an elite recruiter at DC or maybe OC. UGA and UF are basically polar opposite right now in terms of missing parts coaching wise.
 

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