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#53
#53
utgibbs said:
My friend's mother was hit by a car in Paris, France. A single mom with a baby in the back simply didn't see her, broke her leg.

She was treated free of charge immediately with free medication. The single mum responsible did not have to fear economic peril.

Grandma was picked up by the English NHS for follow-on treatment. Gave her a wheelchair for the remainder of her vacation and free pain meds.

When she got back to North Carolina, her employer had dropped health insurance. She was turned away at her usual doctor.

The US system does well on speed, for those who can afford it, but it falls over almost everywhere else.

Game, Set, and Match.
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the single mum commits vehicular assault and has no fear of economic peril?

Grandma must be stupid.

Also, an emergency situation such as the one you have just described would be handled the EXACT same way by any emergency room in America
 
#54
#54
NEOCON said:
Gibbs, your do realize that whether it is privatized or state ran there is still a middle man. The middle man, in a state ran scenerio, is just an employee paid for by tax dollars instead of premiums. That is as real world as it gets.

And you totally dodged and did not answer my question.

What reason does the Federal government have to be efficient?

Answer the actual question.
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Answered with three sentences, but here's yet another:

The taxpayer.
 
#55
#55
MG1968 said:
the single mum commits vehicular assault and has no fear of economic peril?

Grandma must be stupid.

Also, an emergency situation such as the one you have just described would be handled the EXACT same way by any emergency room in America
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Daft as a brush, Mr Tort Reform.
 
#59
#59
utgibbs said:
Answered with three sentences, but here's yet another:

The taxpayer.
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That's clearly not been a reason in the last 50 years.

The real world data clearly shows this as this government is operating so far below 0 it's not even funny.

If a business was ran the way our government is the owners would be in jail.

That's real world. You need to look out your back door and see that.
 
#60
#60
MG1968 said:
the single mum commits vehicular assault and has no fear of economic peril?

Grandma must be stupid.

Also, an emergency situation such as the one you have just described would be handled the EXACT same way by any emergency room in America
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My brother-in-law got badly burned at a car racing event in Michigan. He's got private Canadian insurance. They kept him in triage with no treatment for six hours until the word came through that he indeed had insurance.

Game, Set, and Match.
 
#61
#61
Gibbs, do you live anywhere near Brentwood?

I just want to make sure when you finally go postal my family isn't anywhere near you.
 
#62
#62
utgibbs said:
My brother-in-law got badly burned at a car racing event in Michigan. He's got private Canadian insurance. They kept him in triage with no treatment for six hours until the word came through that he indeed had insurance.

Game, Set, and Match.
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what is this tennis?
 
#63
#63
NEOCON said:
That's clearly not been a reason in the last 50 years.

The real world data clearly shows this as this government is operating so far below 0 it's not even funny.

If a business was ran the way our government is the owners would be in jail.

That's real world. You need to look out your back door and see that.
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And yet every single payer system gets more for less.

Government is very efficient at many, many things; far more so than the private sector.
 
#64
#64
torn ACL- mine in the US a friend in Canada. I was released from PT (took 6mos) before he got an MRI. Since mine is sports related the GSM fits better here

anecdotes are fun
 
#65
#65
utgibbs said:
My brother-in-law got badly burned at a car racing event in Michigan. He's got private Canadian insurance. They kept him in triage with no treatment for six hours until the word came through that he indeed had insurance.

Game, Set, and Match.
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I don't the Game, Set and Match mean what you think they do. Because if you think it means you win, you're wrong.

The same thing could have happened in Europe.
 
#67
#67
utgibbs said:
My brother-in-law got badly burned at a car racing event in Michigan. He's got private Canadian insurance. They kept him in triage with no treatment for six hours until the word came through that he indeed had insurance.

Game, Set, and Match.
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now you're just making crap up. How on earth would you have a family member involved in something so damaging to the environment as auto racing?
 
#69
#69
hohenfelsvol said:
I don't the Game, Set and Match mean what you think they do. Because if you think it means you win, you're wrong.

The same thing could have happened in Europe.
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Yet, MG said it wouldn't happen here.

And no, it wouldn't have happened on an NHS system, because no one would be waiting for confirmation of insurance before treating.
 
#71
#71
an injured person can walk into an ER and get treated without insurance (and quickly). Happens every single day
 
#73
#73
utgibbs said:
And yet every single payer system gets more for less.

Government is very efficient at many, many things; far more so than the private sector.
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Bullchit.

I know you are going to throw some pie chart out here that is insane and full of bad data but that is crap.

The government couldn't stay on a budget if it wanted to.

You've lost it man. I'm sorry but your gone.
 
#74
#74
utgibbs said:
Yet, MG said it wouldn't happen here.

And no, it wouldn't have happened on an NHS system, because no one would be waiting for confirmation of insurance before treating.
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You're on crack if you think the health care reform would solve that problem which occurred to your brother in law.
 
#75
#75
utvolpj said:
an injured person can walk into an ER and get treated without insurance (and quickly). Happens every single day
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Sure, they can walk in at 6 am and get to see the student docs at midnight. Sure.

Problem is, this is just another indication of the inefficiency of the private system.
 
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