Ghosts..... Have you ever seen them?

So my wife's really good friend Kristin is from Indiana. Kristin said recently her friend from back home texted her freaking out. Apparently she had this picture taken with her boyfriend:



She felt it was too dark so she went to lighten it up and this was what showed up in the lightened up version:



Thoughts?
Seriously?
 
Seriously?

Seriously.

My wife asked me what I thought. I told her I would put it to Volnation, I figured there would be some photo experts that could shed some light.

So please, Ron, you seem skeptical, present your expertise and credibility to justify your sarcastic response.
 
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So my wife's really good friend Kristin is from Indiana. Kristin said recently her friend from back home texted her freaking out. Apparently she had this picture taken with her boyfriend:




She felt it was too dark so she went to lighten it up and this was what showed up in the lightened up version:



Thoughts?


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This pic reminds me of Lennie and Curley's wife from Of Mice and Men
 
For ghosts sightings to occur, it means that ghosts must be corporeal. However, ghosts are, by the accounts of individuals who believe in ghosts, incorporeal phantasms. So, we have a case of a ghost-sighting being that of a sighting of a corporeal-incorporeal. That is a contradiction.

To avoid the contradiction, we have two options: say that ghosts exists but they cannot ever be sighted, felt, etc.; or, assert that ghosts exist and exist as corporeal beings, not incorporeal phantasms. The first option is actually defensible, but meaningless. The second option means that ghosts are materialized and, more importantly, always remain materialized (unless you are going to give to ghosts the divine power of self-causation...which, then ghosts become gods). If they always remain materialized, then we ought to be able to both track them and trap them. But, nobody in the recorded history of mankind has ever trapped a ghost. Why is it so tough to trap a ghost? Because they can simply walk through walls, locked doors, vanish into thin air, etc. But, doing all of these things reduces to the same thing: they are immaterial and incorporeal. Which, if so, we cannot ever ****ing see them.

And, if we think we see a ghost, either we are hallucinating (which humans, throughout recorded history, have done concerning many things and due to many causes) or we are just too stupid to actually look for and find the true cause of and the true phenomenon that we, in our ignorance, hurry, excitedness, anxiety, etc., thought was a phantom.

Basically, the concept of sightable ghosts is internally contradictory. Amazingly, I am more absolutely certain that ghosts cannot exist than I am about the non-existence of unicorns (not an internally contradictory concept), flying pigs (again, not an internally contradictory concept), leprechauns (once more, not internally contradictory), etc.

This is why the belief in ghosts and the willingness to believe in ghost-sightings is the height of imbecility. Believing in the existence of a supernatural God is more defensible than believing in ghosts. Not surprisingly, you dismiss the belief in god, yet accept the belief in ghosts.

A simple yes or no is alright from time to time :)
 
therealUT is just another guy who believes that God does not exist because we can not prove that he exists.
 
If the suit fits, wear it.

Hmm... so I went to college for Pastoral Ministry. I was saved from a very bad lifestyle at 17 and I've been aspiring to have my own church one day ever since. So if you're referring to me as a "doubter" regarding my faith in God and my Savior...... well you swung and missed.
 
Hmm... so I went to college for Pastoral Ministry. I was saved from a very bad lifestyle at 17 and I've been aspiring to have my own church one day ever since. So if you're referring to me as a "doubter" regarding my faith in God and my Savior...... well you swung and missed.

and that makes you better than anyone else? A bigger believer than anyone else?

You are are human and thus, born into sin. I don't care if you are Pope Francis himself.

If you don't believe in ghosts because people can't prove their existence, then following your same line of thinking, you don't believe in God either.
 
and that makes you better than anyone else? A bigger believer than anyone else?

You are are human and thus, born into sin. I don't care if you are Pope Francis himself.

If you don't believe in ghosts because people can't prove their existence, then following your same line of thinking, you don't believe in God either.

You seem to have me confused with someone else. I have posted several times in this thread in support of "ghosts." I'm not sure what you think you're saying right now.


But for the record, your ghost/God logic is awful.
 
You seem to have me confused with someone else. I have posted several times in this thread in support of "ghosts." I'm not sure what you think you're saying right now.


But for the record, your ghost/God logic is awful.
He doesnt know what he's saying either. Just smile and nod.
 

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