Gibson explains Bush Doctrine to Sarah Palin

[notverycrucial]

Sarah Palin tonight ...

cool! awesome. no way! war is hell. mission from god. in what respect. world view. cool. islamic extremism. new leadership. abraham lincoln. do things better. defend america. awesome. won't blink. no way! in order to. war has to be last option. victory. lose in iraq. surge solution. terrorists. destroy america. not blink. hellbent. climate. manmade. drill. agree to disagree.

 

[rockydoc]

Please tell me that you know that it is infintely more complicated than that.

She clearly does not realize that.

I'm actually stunned by how badly she performed. I would have expected some dancing around, sure. But she sounded like a high schooler at her parents' dinner party trying to have a conversation with an adult. Rather than come off as amusingly ignorant, however, she came off as dangerously simple minded.

I cannot get over how awful that was. Attack Obama all you want. It may or may not be justified. But no one can defend what I just saw and heard.
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I'd expect you to support the two lawyers (community organizer Obama and plagiarist Biden) over the Naval officer and the journalism major. :birgits_giggle:

 

[GAVol]

She gave some thin answers, but was it really that bad a performance? I felt like her whole MO was to not step on McCain's stances.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Sarah Palin tonight ...

cool! awesome. no way! war is hell. mission from god. in what respect. world view. cool. islamic extremism. new leadership. abraham lincoln. do things better. defend america. awesome. won't blink. no way! in order to. war has to be last option. victory. lose in iraq. surge solution. terrorists. destroy america. not blink. hellbent. climate. manmade. drill. agree to disagree.

is there a point? or are you sitting beside a random word generator?

 

[volinbham]

She gave some thin answers, but was it really that bad a performance? I felt like her whole MO was to not step on McCain's stances.

I only saw the Bush Doctrine part linked her and thought it wasn't a great performance.

However, I'd like to see Gibson treat each candidate to the style questioning he did here.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I only saw the Bush Doctrine part linked her and thought it wasn't a great performance.

However, I'd like to see Gibson treat each candidate to the style questioning he did here.

Gibson's not about to hammer Obama that way.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

then any such alliance is effectively meaningless in your world. Sweet place.

It is what it is. That isn't me being delusional. But I wouldn't want to put my faith or the faith of this republic in the hands of France, Canada or Spain...

 

[TennTradition]

She gave some thin answers, but was it really that bad a performance? I felt like her whole MO was to not step on McCain's stances.

That was part of it....but I honestly think that she didn't know how to answer a few times. I really (as honestly as I can answer) believe that she had no clue what the Bush Doctrine was. While I will easily grant that it has a bit of a wide-sweeping definition, I'm not sure she even knew about a part of it. I think that she thought that he was saying Bush's doctrine...not the Bush Doctrine....and that difference showed. She was trying not to step on McCain's toes on the climate change questions...but it's hard when you have the stances she's had in the past...and she didn't cover well IMO, at all. With that said....I'm glad that she's the number 2 on the ticket and not the number 1. Her number 1 does know what he is talking about on these issues.

 

[BigPapaVol]

It is what it is. That isn't me being delusional. But I wouldn't want to put my faith or the faith of this republic in the hands of France, Canada or Spain...

so you advocate dissolution of the UN?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

so you advocate dissolution of the UN?

Actually, yes. That has been a traditional conservative view.

 

[notverycrucial]

is there a point? or are you sitting beside a random word generator?

Here is a snippet of the Associated Press story that will be on the front page of every newspaper in America tomorrow. It's brutal.

Palin tries to defend qualifications in interview - Yahoo! News

John McCain running mate Sarah Palin sought Thursday to defend her qualifications but struggled with foreign policy, unable to describe President Bush's doctrine of pre-emptive strikes against threatening nations and acknowledging she's never met a foreign head of state.

The Republican vice presidential nominee told Charles Gibson of ABC News in her first televised interview since being named to the GOP ticket that "I'm ready" to be president if called upon. However, she sidestepped on whether she had the national security credentials needed to be commander in chief.

And It gets worse from there.

 

[GAVol]

Does that actually surprise you that the interview would be framed in that way?

 

[volinbham]

Here's her quote on Georgia/Russia

Perhaps so. (in response to should the US go to war with Russia if) I mean that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked you're going to be called upon and expected to help.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Here is a snippet of the Associated Press story that will be on the front page of every newspaper in America tomorrow. It's brutal.

Palin tries to defend qualifications in interview - Yahoo! News

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And It gets worse from there.

on Yahoo news. That's a shock.

 

[TennTradition]

Here's her quote on Georgia/Russia

I didn't have a problem with that part of her interview...she reacted confidently and strongly....too bad it was one of the few parts that I felt that way....

 

[volinbham]

Here's the ABC version.

ABC News: Palin Takes Hard Line on National Security, Softens Stance on Global Warming

 

[notverycrucial]

on Yahoo news. That's a shock.

It's the frickin AP. It will be in every major newspaper tomorrow morning. It's the wire service. Not Yahoo!

 

[BigPapaVol]

Actually, yes. That has been a traditional conservative view.

I actually do as well, but such a view is going to quickly fall to the wayside, even in conservative circles because of our intertwined economies.

 

[volinbham]

I didn't have a problem with that part of her interview...she reacted confidently and strongly....too bad it was one of the few parts that I felt that way....

I haven't seen it - how about her discussion of energy policy? or anything not foreign policy related?

 

[BigPapaVol]

It's the frickin AP. It will be in every major newspaper tomorrow morning. It's the wire service. Not Yahoo!

I'm well aware of who sources Yahoo and they're almost exclusively left wing outfits, including the freaking AP, which puts the NYT to shame.

 

[TennTradition]

I haven't seen it - how about her discussion of energy policy? or anything not foreign policy related?

I turned on the interview just before the discussion of the Bush Doctrine and Georgia/Ossetia (sp?). So, I'm not sure what questions were asked about energy policy or how she handled them. I do know that I was left unimpressed with her answers on climate change...she basically contradicted herself.

 

[notverycrucial]

Here's the ABC version.

ABC News: Palin Takes Hard Line on National Security, Softens Stance on Global Warming

I agree ABC takes a much softer line in their written piece. I can't believe how brutal the AP was though. I mean, everything they wrote is true, but it's framed very negatively. The interview was bad, but the AP makes it seem much worse. If I were Mccain camp, I would definitely complain -- not that they've built up any goodwill with the press lately.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I actually do as well, but such a view is going to quickly fall to the wayside, even in conservative circles because of our intertwined economies.

We will lose national soveriegnty anyways, so it probably doesn't matter...

 

[notverycrucial]

I'm well aware of who sources Yahoo and they're almost exclusively left wing outfits, including the freaking AP, which puts the NYT to shame.

Papa,

You have no idea what you're talking about. The AP has been heavily criticized by for its appearance of bias against Democrats -- particularly Obama and Biden. That's why I was so surprised to see Palin skewered this way.

AP Washington Bureau Chief, Ron Fournier, is a close friend of Karl Rove's and has openly admitted he interviewed to head up McCain's communications team earlier this year. This is the current head of the AP. This guy writes articles on a regular basis that appear in newspapers alll over the country and he has certainly taken a few shots at Dems. Oh, and did you know that Rupert Murdoch sits on the board of the AP., frickin liberal that he is.

All this whining about the so-called liberal press. They're not liberal. They're not conservative. They're establishment -- which means they lean to the Right these days. The only reason Palin was treated so badly in this particular article was b/c she was terrible. Also, she's not a part of the DC cocktail circuit, which is almost enitrely made up of conservatives anyway since they've dominated Washington for so long.

Sorry your woman got beat-up so badly tonight, but trying to blame her abysmal performance on the frickin liberal press is laughable. Oh, and we'll talk about the NYT some other time.

EDIT TO ADD: Here's a link to the AP story using a search of the first sentence on Google. Take your pick. NYTimes, FoxNews, Cleveland PlainDealer, LATimes, KnoxNews, and on and on! It's the same story on evey single news outlet.

http://news.google.com/news?ie=UTF-...+never+met+a+foreign+head+of+state.&scoring=d

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Papa,

You have no idea what you're talking about. The AP has been heavily criticized by for its appearance of bias against Democrats -- particularly Obama and Biden. That's why I was so surprised to see Palin skewered this way.

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