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#26
#26
It's just amazing to me that people think we will beat either UGA or USCjr. Those are top 10-15 teams. My six are AP, WKU, S. Alabama, Mizzou or Aub (can't decide which one we win, but not both), Vandy, KY

Phil Steele only has us as a 3 point dog against UGA, and he has the SCar game as a toss-up. He's one of the best in the college football prognostication biz, and he doesn't think it's too far-fetched. We were close with both those teams last year, and this year we get both of them at home. We're playing UGA right after their game with LSU, and the SCar game is the 2nd of 3 consecutive road games for them. We can win both of those games.
 
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#27
#27
9 because were Tennessee and solid O line 2 pretty good backs a D that was ranked # 26 just 2 years ago running a 4-3 D if ut can keep the entire SEC under 24 points a game we would have won 3 or 4 more games last year had we done it UGA,USCe,Mizzu,miss state....
 
#28
#28
I'm gonna go nuts and say 9-3. Games are won in the trenches, and our Oline and Dline should be very good this year. Frankly, I think too much is being made of the situation at QB and WR. In 2009, we had Crompton and Stephens coming back as our 2 QB's, and no one believed in those 2 guys. We didn't have any proven receivers or running backs. We had an undersized Oline with 2 walk-ons starting. That team went 7-5 and could have easily won 9 games. I think this team will be similar to the '09 team. Some weeks they'll look like SEC Champions (a la the Alabama game). Some weeks they'll stink to high hell (a la the UCLA game). I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'll be more realistic once the season starts. For now, I enjoy being optimistic! :)
 
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#29
#29
Phil Steele only has us as a 3 point dog against UGA, and he has the SCar game as a toss-up. He's one of the best in the college football prognostication biz, and he doesn't think it's too far-fetched. We were close with both those teams last year, and this year we get both of them at home. We're playing UGA right after their game with LSU, and the SCar game is the 2nd of 3 consecutive road games for them. We can win both of those games.



Phil Steele is no better at predicting college football than the Bleacher Report.
 
#32
#32
UGA has a lot of variables to this next season. They lost so many starters on Defense. Yeah they have loads of bench talent but they will have growing pains on D. And if they lose their first two, they could become disheartened and fall apart like they did three years ago with a very talented team.

As for USCe, we could have beaten them last year. Outside of Clowney their D isn't incredible and Tiny does ok on Clowney...who is already hurt and must deal with the hype. As far as their offense goes, if we can contain those running qbs, we will do fine. I am starting a petition to bring Garcia back for another four years though.

Vandy and Auburn will be challenges but home games. We are significantly better than Mizzou and KY but they are road games. WKY will hang for two 1/2 quarters. AP/S. Ala, serious beeoch slappin. Bama, Fla, OR on the road... we will have bring our A+++ game to upset but it can be done. Just ask Appalacian State and Mich.

I remember Tiny dominating Clowney all game except for that one play. Tiny doesn't just do ok on Clowney he is Clowney's kryptonite.
 
#33
#33
Bray, C Patt, Hunter are gone...that's why.

That's true but I don't think this team is gonna be near as pass happy. I really think we're be a run first and often team this year, which will help open up the passing game. I still feel like we could pull off one of those games.
 
#39
#39
Phil Steel does alot of research and gives out a lot of info, but at the end of the day he can't predict outcomes any better than Athlon, Lindy's, espn, etc. it's a guessing game to all of us.

He actually ranks his predictions v.s. the other magazines. Over the last ten years he is much better than any of the examples you listed.

7-5...

UT is simply more talented than 6 opponents. Both Auburn and UT have a lot of unknowns. And until AU shows something to worry about, I have UT winning that one also.
 
#40
#40
No one listens to what I am about to say. I say it so much that it actually bores me, so I can only imagine what you guys feel reading it.

Bottom line: Simply averaging recruiting talent classes over four years and ranking them based on this average can predict the outcome over a season for a team between 60-70% of the time.

For BCS title games this method predicts the outcome about 87% of the time since 2005. 2005 isn't an arbitrary number, it is the first year that one can produce data for a four year average starting at 2002, which is as far back as I can get rivals data. The only year that it didn't predict the outcome was 2005. Texas should have lost to USC.

Using this formula and only predicting based on talent, UT goes 7-5 (possibly 8-4 as there is a game on the schedule against a team with an identical 4 year recruiting average as UT, so it is a wash if I stick to my system).

What is even more interesting is what accounts for the other 30-40% of the teams who fall more than 1 game above (or below) their predicted outcome. You begin to find coaches like Petrino, Spurrier, Kiff, Dooley and Jones. Yes, our Butch Jones.

What I mean is that Petrino, Spurrier and Jones have a definite history of getting more out of their talent than other coaches. Dooley and Kiff are both under performers at a rate of several games a year.

In fact, if you look at Jones' history at Cincy, you find that he over performed every year besides his first year. Jones over performed by an average of about 3 games a year. His first year, where he only won 4 games, was exactly what his recruiting average would have predicted. He did that by beating two teams he should not have beaten, and losing to two teams he should not have lost to.

I don't expect to see Jones over perform his first year, but I do expect he meets the 7-5 mark.
 
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No one listens to what I am about to say. I say it so much that it actually bores me, so I can only imagine what you guys feel reading it.

Bottom line: Simply averaging recruiting talent classes over four years and ranking then based on this average can predict the outcome over a season for a team between 60-70% of the time.

For BCS title games this method predicts the outcome about 87% of the time since 2005. 2005 isn't an arbitrary number, it is the first year that one can produce data for a four year average starting at 2002, which is as far back as I can get rivals data. The only year that it didn't predict the outcome was 2005. Texas should have lost to USC.

Using this formula and only predicting based on talent, UT goes 7-5 (possibly 8-4 as there is a game on the schedule against a team with an identical 4 year recruiting average as UT, so it is a wash if I stick to my system).

What is even more interesting is what accounts for the other 30-40% of the teams who fall more than 1 game above (or below) their predicted outcome. You begin to find coaches like Petrino, Spurrier, Kiff, Dooley and Jones. Yes, our Butch Jones.

What I mean is that Petrino, Spurrier and Jones have a definite history of getting more out of their talent than other coaches. Dooley and Kiff are both under performers at a rate of several games a year.

In fact, if you look at Jones' history at Cincy, you find that he over performed every year besides his first year. Jones over performed by an average of about 3 games a year. His first year, where he only won 4 games, was exactly what his recruiting average would have predicted. He did that by beating two teams he should not have beaten, and losing to two teams he should not have lost to.

I don't expect to see Jones over perform his first year, but I do expect he meets the 7-5 mark.

Eventually every body else will "get it". It's obvious you do.

Thanks. It's always a pleasure to read your breakdowns.
 
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#42
#42
Seeing a lot of people in here saying the WKU game will be tough or tougher than people expect and then following that up with wins at Florida or USCe

LoL
 
#45
#45
For those of you predicting 7-5 or better, give me you wins and if you could do me a solid, also give me your reasons why we win those 7 or more.

I guess im with the general consensus on this one...

Wins - AP, WKU, S. ALA, Mizz, AUB, Vandy, KY

Losses - ORE, BAMA

Toss ups - UGA, USC, UF
 
#46
#46
We beat AP, WKY, UK, and S Bama those are givens. That's 4 wins right there. With that said I think the better question is WHY wouldn't UT be able to beat Auburn, Vandy, and Mizz and end up with 7 wins?


Oregon, BAMA, Fl, and Georgia are definitely going to be tough to pull out, but those are the only games that I see 10% or less chance to win. Should have beat Mizz last year, Auburn last year was still worse than we were you know and a very young team.
 
#47
#47
Being back on the 4-3 defense instantly increased our win odds.

I won't get into scores...
Wins
Austin Peay
Western Kentucky
South Alabama
South Carolina - Probably reaching here, but I'm optimistic.
Missouri
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
 
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#49
#49
Being back on the 4-3 defense instantly increased our win odds.

I won't get into scores...
Wins
Austin Peay
Western Kentucky
South Alabama
South Carolina - Probably reaching here, but I'm optimistic.
Missouri
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Kentucky


I think South Carolina is going to under preform this year just a gut feeling. I think we have a good chance against Oregon with the coaching change but I am no pro analysis.
 
#50
#50
No one listens to what I am about to say. I say it so much that it actually bores me, so I can only imagine what you guys feel reading it...

Actually, quite a few people listen to what you have to say because it tends toward the more objective.

I'm curious what you thought UT would do in 2012 before the season started. There was a team with a LOT of talent so I would imagine most people thought we'd win at least 8 games. Of course, the coaching issue enters the picture and if we'd had had Wilcox instead of Sunseri, it would have been a different story.

Anyway, I remember UF was supposed to be horrible again last year but their offseason workouts made the difference (Muschamp really challenged them). I see CBJ doing the same with this team and what I've read that the players have been doing on their own is really encouraging.
 

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