Golden's dad disputes academic problems

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#127
vol66 said:
AND YET...here we are talking about a student athlete's academic record which is the one thing a school never addresses. Hmmmmmmm.
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Leaks happen all the time. Even some of the most sensitive data out there gets leaked. Doesn't mean something is fishy, just means someone done something that could potentially get them in trouble. Hence the anonymity.
 
#128
#128
MemphisCanes said:
Is it really that hard to fathom that, whatever trouble Golden is/was having, has been an issue since February? Yemi was just let go in April for something that happened in February.
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According to Golden senior, there is no problem, that Trae is simply leaving to pursue other options. So yes, I have a hard time believing that the Golden's, with no outside issues, suddenly started considering a transfer in February of this year, and then waited till May before pulling the trigger, knowing that Golden is going to have to sit out next year no matter what. Especially considering the playing time he would have gotten this year and the roster UT has for this upcoming season.
 
#129
#129
MemphisCanes said:
The University hasn't said anything. The AD hasn't said anything. The Coaching Staff hasn't said anything.

People are basing all of this on one unnamed source in one GoVolsExtra article.
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I'm not sure what to believe, and one thing I've learned with Tennessee athletics is don't be surprised, anything can happen...however, there's many more people saying this is "academic" than ONE govolsxtra article. Steven pearl who has friends on the team and talked to Martin said he was told it was for plagiarism.
 
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UTFanForLife said:
Leaks happen all the time. Even some of the most sensitive data out there gets leaked. Doesn't mean something is fishy, just means someone done something that could potentially get them in trouble. Hence the anonymity.
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In this particular case, why, ...check that...who is benefitted by this particular leak? Not CCM. Not Golden. Who?
 
#132
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MemphisCanes said:
Not at all, I'm just asking why what Golden's dad said about this being an issue since February is unbelievable, given the whole Yemi thing.
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Ahh ok.

If Trae knew of his "academic issues" then, I can see him going to his dad and talking about transferring. Especially if he knew there was a chance of him not being able to stay at UT. I personally feel Mr. Golden is withholding some truths, because I would probably do the same for my son.
 
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vol66 said:
In this particular case, why, ...check that...who is benefitted by this particular leak? Not CCM. Not Golden. Who?
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Humans do stupid stuff, could have been a new person who had knowledge and then responded to inquiries.

My company has a policy on talking to the media in certain situations, we recently had a leak in information. It happens more than it should.
 
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zansdad said:
According to Golden senior, there is no problem, that Trae is simply leaving to pursue other options. So yes, I have a hard time believing that the Golden's, with no outside issues, suddenly started considering a transfer in February of this year, and then waited till May before pulling the trigger, knowing that Golden is going to have to sit out next year no matter what. Especially considering the playing time he would have gotten this year and the roster UT has for this upcoming season.
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That is not what he said.

"Contacted Wednesday afternoon, Robert Golden, Trae’s father, initially declined comment. He then, however, called Tuesday’s reports “totally inaccurate.”

“No, no, no,” he said regarding Golden’s alleged academic issues. “It’s not that. My son, he’s fine in that area. He’s just going to pursue some other opportunities.”

That's what he said. Never claimed that Trae did nothing wrong; in fact, from his quote, it sounds like he's acknowledging that Trae did something wrong, but that it had nothing to do with academics.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
That is not what he said.

"Contacted Wednesday afternoon, Robert Golden, Trae’s father, initially declined comment. He then, however, called Tuesday’s reports “totally inaccurate.”

“No, no, no,” he said regarding Golden’s alleged academic issues. “It’s not that. My son, he’s fine in that area. He’s just going to pursue some other opportunities.”

That's what he said. Never claimed that Trae did nothing wrong; in fact, from his quote, it sounds like he's acknowledging that Trae did something wrong, but that it had nothing to do with academics.
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funny how some people read only what they want too and ignore what is right in front of them. "He is just going to pursue some other opportunities," to just about everyone on this planet means. "hey this is Trae's choice, nothing else is going on, he is leaving on his own." I am interested in how you interpret it.
 
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#136
UTFanForLife said:
Ahh ok.

If Trae knew of his "academic issues" then, I can see him going to his dad and talking about transferring. Especially if he knew there was a chance of him not being able to stay at UT. I personally feel Mr. Golden is withholding some truths, because I would probably do the same for my son.
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If my son doesn't tell the whole truth he gets sent to his room (without his blanket and stuffed puppy)... but I do withhold that information from the press.
 
#137
#137
UTFanForLife said:
Humans do stupid stuff, could have been a new person who had knowledge and then responded to inquiries.

My company has a policy on talking to the media in certain situations, we recently had a leak in information. It happens more than it should.
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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree here. Everyone over on the hill knew this would be a big story. I'll never believe that this was anything other than an intentional leak. This wasn't your typical leak in the AD either...as I've said and has been stated by others this was the academic side calling the shots, not the AD or CCM.
 
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OrangeDog said:
If my son doesn't tell the whole truth he gets sent to his room (without his blanket and stuffed puppy)... but I do withhold that information from the press.
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Exactly, there was probably a tanning involved back in my childhood days.
 
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#139
zansdad said:
funny how some people read only what they want too and ignore what is right in front of them. "He is just going to pursue some other opportunities," to just about everyone on this planet means. "hey this is Trae's choice, nothing else is going on, he is leaving on his own." I am interested in how you interpret it.
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I think there's a reason the headline read "Golden's father denies academic" rather than "Golden's father denies wrongdoing".
 
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zansdad said:
That's not an interpretation of the quote in question. That is just you restating your opinion.
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If his dad thought Trae was free of any wrongdoing, then he would have clearly stated as much. He's not going to back himself into a corner.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
I'm not 100 percent sure, but I don't think Golden is completely innocent.
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Are you being this vague because you have no clue what he did, or because you don't want it out there. You seem to be adamant it wasn't academic related, and are now saying golden isn't innocent, but don't provide any sort of alternative situation as to what you think ultimately led to him leaving.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Are you being this vague because you have no clue what he did, or because you don't want it out there. You seem to be adamant it wasn't academic related, and are now saying golden isn't innocent, but don't provide any sort of alternative situation as to what you think ultimately led to him leaving.
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Maybe he was kickin' it with Yemi.



Not being serious btw
 
#146
#146
bleedingTNorange said:
Are you being this vague because you have no clue what he did, or because you don't want it out there. You seem to be adamant it wasn't academic related, and are now saying golden isn't innocent, but don't provide any sort of alternative situation as to what you think ultimately led to him leaving.
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I don't want to look like a fool by saying what I think the possible situation is about and end up being incorrect.
 
#147
#147
TennesseeFan07 said:
I don't want to look like a fool by saying what I think the possible situation is about and end up being incorrect.
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I dont think anyone will hold you to it (I sure won't), and it's likely we will never know the truth, so hard for anyone to likely say you're incorrect. I'm just very curious as to what you think happened...
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
That's what doesn't make sense. If he's a repeat offender then shouldn't he have faced disciplinary action before? Also, who is the name that should associated with this claim? Until proven otherwise, I'll consider this reasoning to be a rumor.
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This.

And if cheating was involved by Golden and leaked by someone in the AD then there has clearing been violations of privacy laws by a source within the AD who requested anonymity which is yet another black eye on the UT AD. It is a regular three ring circus over there.

a real bunch of horse ##$#.
 
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