Golden's dad disputes academic problems

#76
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rockytop9808 said:
What does an academic issue have to do with the AD not squashing rumors put out by scores of imbeciles?
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What's the difference? The University never put out statements on either. If they weren't willing to deny anonymous claims about potential head coaches, then why get involved in the Golden situation? After all, both situations involve rumors, not facts.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
What's the difference? The University never put out statements on either. If they weren't willing to deny anonymous claims about potential head coaches, then why get involved in the Golden situation? After all, both situations involve rumors, not facts.
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You can't see a difference between an athletic entity dealing with very obviously baseless rumors and an academic institution dealing with what could result in smears on its reputation?
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Someone in the university has. And in this case, if it's completely untrue, the university would be saying something.
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Are you really going to listen to the same media members that denied the Golden story as early as Tuesday and has also had sources that put out other rumors as to Golden's departure before Tuesday evening's plagiarism story?
 
#80
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For all the people saying "He isn't denying it, it must be true!"

They also never denied Gruden coming.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
You can't see a difference between an athletic entity dealing with very obviously baseless rumors and an academic institution dealing with what could result in smears on its reputation?
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What's to squash? The University has never publicly accused Golden of doing anything. Why release a statement of denial over something that's probably never happened?
 
#83
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rockytop9808 said:
Somebody with enough credibility to be cited by national news sources. If he's not playing anywhere in the fall I think it's safe to assume he's got serious academic issues.
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Was it the same person who told KNS on Monday evening about the rumor being false, the person who said Tuesday morning that Golden had bad grades or the person who said Tuesday afternoon that Martin told Golden his playing time was going to diminish? That guy has a lot of credibility, doesn't he?
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
What's to squash? The University has never publicly accused Golden of doing anything. Why release a statement of denial over something that's probably never happened?
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There's nothing to squash. You're the one who brought up the Gruden fiasco, which I'd say is wildly, wildly different from this.

The university has nothing to deny. I'm not saying they need to say anything, either, so I'm not sure where you're trying to come from.

I was calling you out for rather questionably connecting the independent AD with the academic institution. Sorry it was too difficult for you to follow.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
Was it the same person who told KNS on Monday evening about the rumor being false, the person who said Tuesday morning that Golden had bad grades or the person who said Tuesday afternoon that Martin told Golden his playing time was going to diminish? That guy has a lot of credibility, doesn't he?
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How would I know?

I find it hard to believe that he would transfer suddenly without having been caught with some sort of academic issue, which someone in the AD has told ESPN and CBS. I'm not going to deal with KNS because Knoxville media reports on any crap anybody comes up with- national news sources are usually a little more thorough.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Somebody with enough credibility to be cited by national news sources. If he's not playing anywhere in the fall I think it's safe to assume he's got serious academic issues.
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Somebody with enough credibility, but we don't know who? Somebody who didn't even give a full quote, and is remaining completely anonymous. Someone who said something that neither the University, AD or coaching staff has confirmed at this point.

But we won't believe his father, who wasn't speaking from anonymity. His father, who has a physical address, known phone number and who can be reached for comment about all of this, we're taking the report of some unknown source over his father?
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
What's to squash? The University has never publicly accused Golden of doing anything. Why release a statement of denial over something that's probably never happened?
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A University official was cited. If untrue and Golden seeks legal action, I would think media members would be subpoenaed for the information on their source. I would guess the University would do what they could to not be named in something like that.

I just have a hard time seeing the University letting a baseless claim as serious as this keep going if there was no truth to it. Potential money loss from a lawsuit is there.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Somebody with enough credibility, but we don't know who? Somebody who didn't even give a full quote, and is remaining completely anonymous. Someone who said something that neither the University, AD or coaching staff has confirmed at this point.

But we won't believe his father, who wasn't speaking from anonymity. His father, who has a physical address, known phone number and who can be reached for comment about all of this, we're taking the report of some unknown source over his father?
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I'd take a source within the institution over a parent 99 times out of 100. Have you ever had to deal with parents? My guess is a resounding no.
 
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#89
Until given a name, I'll continue to laugh at these allegations. I do think certain people know Trae is not in the best of positions to defend himself at the current moment.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Somebody with enough credibility, but we don't know who? Somebody who didn't even give a full quote, and is remaining completely anonymous. Someone who said something that neither the University, AD or coaching staff has confirmed at this point.

But we won't believe his father, who wasn't speaking from anonymity. His father, who has a physical address, known phone number and who can be reached for comment about all of this, we're taking the report of some unknown source over his father?
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What anonymous source has ever been named? This happens all the time, the exact same way this situation is.

You are putting a lot of stock in Goldens father. His initial response was no comment. Then he decided to say there were no academic issues. So we are assuming that he has access to this info, which some parents do not in some cases. Then, we are assuming that Golden has even told him about it...how many kids tell the truth when things like this happen?

Majority of the time, parents are going to try and deflect from the truth in order to protect their kids and their reputation. We see this example a lot.

This could all be one big conspiracy and things could be fabricated in order to let Trae go. Just seems like a lot of trouble to go through when they could have just let him go and he transfer out.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
I'd take a source within the institution over a parent 99 times out of 100. Have you ever had to deal with parents? My guess is a resounding no.
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What source? You don't even know who the source is or what the source's quote was.

You're disregarding what an ACTUAL person said on the record for something an UNKNOWN person may have said.
 
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TennesseeFan07 said:
Until given a name, I'll continue to laugh at these allegations. I do think certain people know Trae is not in the best of positions to defend himself at the current moment.
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If Trae did nothing wrong and is being forced out, what is stopping him from talking? Again, not saying you are wrong just trying to grasp the reasoning.
 
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UTFanForLife said:
What anonymous source has ever been named? This happens all the time, the exact same way this situation is.

You are putting a lot of stock in Goldens father. His initial response was no comment. Then he decided to say there were no academic issues. So we are assuming that he has access to this info, which some parents do not in some cases. Then, we are assuming that Golden has even told him about it...how many kids tell the truth when things like this happen?

Majority of the time, parents are going to try and deflect from the truth in order to protect their kids and their reputation. We see this example a lot.

This could all be one big conspiracy and things could be fabricated in order to let Trae go. Just seems like a lot of trouble to go through when they could have just let him go and he transfer out.
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I'll take the word of known person over the word of an "unnamed, anonymous tipster".
 
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#97
Due to privacy laws, the University can't officially comment if his dismissal was indeed due to academic fraud.

I'm not sure what is expected of the University. Are you guys waiting to hear it from Trae's professor?
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Due to privacy laws, the University can't officially comment if his dismissal was indeed due to academic fraud.

I'm not sure what is expected of the University. Are you guys waiting to hear it from Trae's professor?
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Ding Ding Ding. FERPA in dis b#tch.
 
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