Good thing Tennessee didn’t hire Lane!

[photovol]

Right. Because nobody can ever change or mature. However they acted in their very first head coaching job will be exactly how they act in all of their future jobs .

Big Orange logic, gotta love it!

 

[cobbwebb0710]

The odds makers said differently and the line move against us after it came out. Multimillion dollar sports books and casinos don't stay in business by being wrong more than they're right.

I feel much better about that loss, since the oddsmakers said we were SUPPOSED TO LOSE TO PITT!
GBO??

 

[Carp]

Ole Miss has beaten 2 bad teams and 1 mediocre team. I don't know how you can take much away from that. I would be willing to bet they get beat by at least 17 by Bama next week.

 

[Birdie]

So he would have left us in round 2 for Bama?

No, I don't think so. There is a difference between TN and Ole Miss in terms of prestige. TN has all the intangibles that any elite program (Bama, Michigan, USC, Texas, etc) have that separate the elite programs from the rest. He is smart enough to know if he has it rolling at TN then there is no reason you need to leave. Though our admin doesn't seem to believe or support that notion and now seem determined to literally tear it down brick by brick..

 

[Schasz]

Isn't it past time for Vols fans to quit worrying about the employment of one Lane Kiffin. That bus left the depot a looooong time ago, and it was Lane's decision to leave after one year. Time to jump on the CJH band wagon, as he is the Vols HC. I'm hoping he'll be the one to right the ship and not someone who left for what he thought was greener pastures.

 

[89 VOLS grad]

100% should’ve hired him when Butch was fired. Say what you will, but the one year he was here he had a ton of top talent coming in. Also, he took a terrible Ole Miss team and in two seasons has them clicking. We will get to wallow in it once again when he beats our asses next month.

You Lane train people are clueless!!! Lane and Ole Miss will lose most of their recruits due to lack of control or probabation while NOT SNIFFING a SEC Championship game should he be there the next 10 years (even with Saban leaving Bama within 5)!!! Almost every player that Lane and staff recruited at UT got in trouble, didn't make the grades, or didn't provide the results on the field as expected!!! I believe 3-5 of the 25 were with UT for four years. That doesn't build a team and was before the transfer portal existed like it does now!!! Lane is a good coach. But, he ISN'T A GREAT ONE!!! That will be proven again before or after he is fired from Ole Miss!!! UT NEEDS A GREAT SEC COACH, not a good one!!! The administration just isn't willing to pay the money and/or go outside the box (Freeze) to get one!!!

 

[a vol n tears]

So what’s your proof that he hasn’t matured? His Twitter? Give some real evidence that Kiffin is still the immature punk that he was in 2009. Integrity? My goodness. You probably wouldn’t have wanted Meyer because of “integrity” right? Only here at TN do fans worry about some fantasy land moral image.

Tweeting about Tenn when he works for another school is not a mature thing to do. My problem is, I was raised during a time when integrity was something people appreciated because with integrity came trust. You obviously don't value either. I do. Simply a difference in our own characters, and the characters we want to associate with.

 

[Birdie]

His entire career he has been an 8-4 coach. I’m guessing that won’t change at Ole Miss. Sure he will have a year or two where he wins more than 8 but he will have a year or two where he wins less to balance it out.

TN has a losing record since Phil was fired. I'd take 8-4 in a heartbeat. His QB, in year 2, is a Heisman contender. USC was under sanctions, he took a crap Florida Atlantic program over. He's a good coach.

 

[hUTch2002]

TN has a losing record since Phil was fired. I'd take 8-4 in a heartbeat. His QB, in year 2, is a Heisman contender. USC was under sanctions, he took a crap Florida Atlantic program over. He's a good coach.

How long would 8-4 satisfy you? His career has shown he is unlikely to start 8-4 and then move to a 10 win team every year. 8-4 is his career average. You’d take it today but that would get old to this fan base within 3-4 years without improvement. I agree he’s a good coach, he’s not a great one though, at least not yet.

 

[a vol n tears]

Didn’t say he was coach of the year, but if you think we wouldn’t have been better off hiring him than Pruitt you’d fit right in with the Tennessee admin of recent years I guess. No one wanted this job at that time…he did. And was only the really proven coach who did. Sometimes you swallow your pride and do what it takes to win like other schools have been doing.

I think Lane's an excellent coach and deserves a 2nd chance. Just not at Tenn. If Tenn hires him, and he decides USCw, or Ala, or Mich is a better opportunity, Tenn looks like the idiots they would have been. Let someone else give him a 2nd chance. I can almost guarantee Ole Miss is not his last stop. Well, based on his history.

 

[hUTch2002]

The one thing Bailey has over the other two is his accuracy. For three games now, Huepel's offense has wide receivers running open, but Milton and Hooker miss them often as not.
From what I have seen of Bailey, he would get the ball to those guys. Plus, he would recognize them and get the ball out quickly.

Where in the world are you getting this? Bailey completed less than half his passes and held the ball a long time resulting in several sacks. Yes there was one drop but some of Hooker’s passes were dropped too. You’re just seeing what you want to see at this point.

 

[hUTch2002]

We could have had Kiffin....................He is without a doubt in the top 5 coaches in the USA. But no, our fans did not want a good coach. So, we took the economy route !

Actually, there’s a lot of doubt about him being a top 5 coach.
Saban
Mullen
Riley
Day
Fisher
Franklin
Dabo
I’ll stop there as that’s an easy 7 that easily could be argued are better than Lane. There are others too. Lane is a career 8-4 coach people. Why in the world do you all hype him up so much? He’s a great offensive coordinator but a decent to good HC. His record isn’t even as good as Mahlzahn and Gus also has a SEC Championship to his name so you could argue Lane isn’t as good as him.

 

[hUTch2002]

So what’s your proof that he hasn’t matured? His Twitter? Give some real evidence that Kiffin is still the immature punk that he was in 2009. Integrity? My goodness. You probably wouldn’t have wanted Meyer because of “integrity” right? Only here at TN do fans worry about some fantasy land moral image.

Well supposedly that’s the reason Schiano isn’t here but that’s a load of crap. The Penn St thing wasn’t what bothered most people, it was just the convenient excuse.

 

[hUTch2002]

Read the practice reports or call Ainge or Swain.

I heard them say on one of the post game shows yesterday that Bailey was even behind Maurer is Fall Camp.

 

[a vol n tears]

No Lane. Too many hurt feelz in vol land. Instead, we prefer to suck but at least have a milquetoast coach we can all be lukewarm about.

In 2018 and 2019 when both coached at smaller Fl schools, Heupel won both meetings. Are you surprised Heupel's teams could score 56pts and 48pts against such a great coach as Kiffin. And Kiffin at the great football factory known as USCw was fired. Also fired at Oakland.

 

[hUTch2002]

He could. But Kiffin would’ve already had us winning by now and we could’ve eliminated the wasted years under Pruitt. If wanting to be successful is “pathetic” then I guess I’m the worst offender.

So would Heupel if he was hired more than 3 years ago. Give him time, we will be fine.

 

[Rickyvol77]

7-6 playing the top 2 coaches in the country down to the wire?

Lmao down to the wire? Bama was 12-3 and required a miracle onside kick. Urban was in control all day long. Now talk about the Auburn, UCLA and Va tech coaching jobs

 

[hUTch2002]

So, your wife leaves you for your cousin and when they are done, she wants to come back to you. Are you gonna take her back?????

This is a trick question! They are the same person!

 

[Fightmaker]

Actually, there’s a lot of doubt about him being a top 5 coach.
Saban
Mullen
Riley
Day
Fisher
Franklin
Dabo
I’ll stop there as that’s an easy 7 that easily could be argued are better than Lane. There are others too. Lane is a career 8-4 coach people. Why in the world do you all hype him up so much? He’s a great offensive coordinator but a decent to good HC. His record isn’t even as good as Mahlzahn and Gus also has a SEC Championship to his name so you could argue Lane isn’t as good as him.

I’ll go one step further and ask the question, how many coaching hires were made since he was dismissed at USC, and how many of those programs considered him?

 

[chef3531]

HB weal armed LOL..... that's laughable. Kid has a super strong arm and has showed it many times. I guess you were watching Vandy play.

He's third string for a reason

 

[Hacksaw]

Our current coach is a great coach, until proven otherwise. That's my stance at this moment. However, I think Kiffin would have been a home run hire, if enough people could have "forgive and forget."

This next stretch would have been tough, no matter who we hired. I'm not giving up hope just yet though. This team has some fight in it, unlike a few teams from the past few years.

I've seen improvement with Heupel. He may have been the best we could get under the circumstances. And whatever faults he may have, at least he's not Lane Kiffin. :::spits!:::

 

[JMSqb11]

Lmao down to the wire? Bama was 12-3 and required a miracle onside kick. Urban was in control all day long. Now talk about the Auburn, UCLA and Va tech coaching jobs

Did we or did we not have the ball kicking for the win on the last play of the game? That is indeed the definition of “down to the wire”

 

[Volunteer forever]

I work with an Ole Miss fan and I remember telling him Ole Miss will recover (from the coach Freezer mess) before TN does. And here we are.

 

[Birdie]

How long would 8-4 satisfy you? His career has shown he is unlikely to start 8-4 and then move to a 10 win team every year. 8-4 is his career average. You’d take it today but that would get old to this fan base within 3-4 years without improvement. I agree he’s a good coach, he’s not a great one though, at least not yet.

He's still a very young coach, most are just now getting their first HC gigs. Maybe he will be great, maybe not. If you look at hiring a Kiffin vs a coordinator or FCS coach I think if you account for risk, Lane is lower risk with higher chance to breakthrgh to a great coach.

No, after the last 13yrs ...8-4 for 4-5yrs is perfectly fine with me. I would be ecstatic about it as long as we were running the program correctly. I.e. recruiting well, redshirting guys, developing, and building something that can last. That was the issue with Butch.. 8-4 doesn't matter when it's clear you are screwing everything else up.

 

[m1al]

Did we or did we not have the ball kicking for the win on the last play of the game? That is indeed the definition of “down to the wire”

Of course it is, but don't bother with 'ricky-b-vol', even the acknowledgement of anything positive about Kiffin puts you in the "dumb fanboy" category according to him...