Goodbye Oregon Football

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#353
Hobock said:
I expected another quote instead of a white flag hidden behind your sandy vag.
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Unfortunately, you just reinforced certain stereotypical perceptions many people have about Tennesseans in general and Vols fans in particular. Since I love the state and the team, I'm leaving the thread so I don't witness you guys compounding and solidifying the perception.
 
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#354
milohimself said:
I can buy this.

Ducks football is going to get torched. USC lost 30 schollies over three years and a two year post season ban. What are peoples wagers on the Ducks? I'm guessing 40 schollies for four years and a three year postseason ban.
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I'm thinking way, way worse. What USC did was weak compared to the ducks. IMO.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Unfortunately, you just reinforced certain stereotypical perceptions many people have about Tennesseans in general and Vols fans in particular. Since I love the state and the team, I'm leaving the thread so I don't witness you guys compounding and solidifying the perception.
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Thanks and thank you.
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#356
WoodsmanVol said:
Unfortunately, you just reinforced certain stereotypical perceptions many people have about Tennesseans in general and Vols fans in particular. Since I love the state and the team, I'm leaving the thread so I don't witness you guys compounding and solidifying the perception.
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'Well....bye'
-Curly Bill, from Tombstone-1993
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#359
Darlin', you and I are gonna have to reevaluate the nature of our association.
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MaehlMan said:
The funny thing is...I'm more pessimistic than most Duck fans about this.

If I had to guess, we'll get some moderately severe sanctions, but Kelly well retain his job, albeit with a very short leash.
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Kelly is gone. Just look at the latest scandals and look where Bruce and tressel are right now. Gone like the wind
 
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#363
Hobock said:
Thanks and thank you.
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Were you just in a e-argument with ****ing Shakespeare?

WTF! I dont like cheaters. Have nothing against Oregon fans, except the ones that cant see the forest for the trees.

I bet he has to wear a parachute just in case he fell of his high horse
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I'm not all knowing, but I seem to recall the Duck fans coming here and showing far more class than SEC trolls and even many of our own fans. They actually talked football and girls instead of being obnoxious. Please give credit where credit is due.
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I beg to differ. Maelman is cool but a large majority came here talking trash. You must of forgot posters like duckntn and others. And what about all the posts from them saying how relevant they are and what a joke we are currently.
 
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MaehlMan said:
Bruce is gone because he lied. Tressell is gone because he ignored things that he knew were NCAA violations.
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And unless this turns out to be a hoax, Kelly committed the most serious of violations. How many coaches have been caught and gotten away with something like this?
 
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MaehlMan said:
Bruce is gone because he lied. Tressell is gone because he ignored things that he knew were NCAA violations.
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If kelly didn't know paying lyles was an ncaa violation he should be fired for pure stupidity. Trying to cover the payment suggests he knew it wasn't kosher.
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DarthVisor said:
Give it up. CCK has done something that goes beyond stupidity by writing those 'thank-you' cards. It's only a matter of time at this point.
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It's not against the rules to thank a vendor for what they've done for your program. At least based on what has been said so far, both Kelly and Lyles thought that coordinating visits with athletes he was working with was within the rules.

I don't think it's as clear cut as you think. For example, it's not against the rules for Lyles to give an athlete a ride somewhere "for" the athlete. If the athlete needs a ride, Lyles provides it and it happens to be in Oregon's interest as well, who is the ride "aiding"? Oregon or the athlete?

AndyMizunogolfer said:
Wheaton surely you cant think this is all the dirt they are going to dig up can you? Look at OSU and all the dirt they dug up on Vest. You may be right in that he will be coach this time next year. I tend to doubt it. I would say there is about to be a big explosion of bad news for you guys.
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Who knows? I suppose there could be dirt we don't know about. I don't see any reason to assume that there is. So far, it's not a question of how much dirt, it's a question of whether or not what has happened was within the letter of the rules.

I think that it could go either way. Either the NCAA drops the hammer. Or, they recognize that there is a lot of gray area in the rules about scouts as they are written and use the incident to clarify them.

TMatthews19 said:
^^ use to be a USC fan, then Oregon, now just bitter.
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^^ use to be a Kiffin fan.

FWIW - Been an Oregon fan since I was a kid. Grandfather was on the team, etc. Listening to rival fans for perspective on what a program is like is a mistake.

CountVolcula said:
If Lyles is telling truth, Chip Kelly must go - CBSSports.com
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That article starts off with a false statement. Lyles did not say that Oregon paid him to steer recruits. He has denied that he was ever paid to steer recruits anywhere multiple times.

ToineMac said:
Every time i get to thinking maybe its not as bad as we think, something that seems even shadier comes out. If the thing about the recruits grandma is true, then Lyles and the Oregon staff is scum and deserve whatever happens.
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The grandma thing wasn't shady. Lache Seastrunk was raised by his grandmother because his mom had drug/legal problems. Lache has stated himself that the only reason she wanted to control where he went to school was to try and get something out of it herself.

It's not against the rules for Lyles to help an athlete accomplish what they want to do. If these kids already wanted to go to Oregon, there would be no further "recruiting" to be done. Lyles wouldn't be acting in a "recruiting" capacity to help Seastrunk with some family conflict.
 
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droski said:
If kelly didn't know paying lyles was an ncaa violation he should be fired for pure stupidity. Trying to cover the payment suggests he knew it wasn't kosher.
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Did Cal not pay Lyles as well?

What did Kelly do to cover up the payment?
 
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#371
CountVolcula said:
Were you just in a e-argument with ****ing Shakespeare?

WTF! I dont like cheaters. Have nothing against Oregon fans, except the ones that cant see the forest for the trees.

I bet he has to wear a parachute just in case he fell of his high horse
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My participation was as pathetic as him turning this into a morality issue.
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#372
wheaton4prez said:
The grandma thing wasn't shady. Lache Seastrunk was raised by his grandmother because his mom had drug/legal problems. Lache has stated himself that the only reason she wanted to control where he went to school was to try and get something out of it herself.

It's not against the rules for Lyles to help an athlete accomplish what they want to do. If these kids already wanted to go to Oregon, there would be no further "recruiting" to be done. Lyles wouldn't be acting in a "recruiting" capacity to help Seastrunk with some family conflict.
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Then i retract my statement.
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