Goodell Upholds 4 Game Suspension For Brady

People defending Brady and the Patriots really should take a hard look at themselves and just be embarrassed. Let's look historically at just what groups of liars and deceivers that Brady belongs in:
Lance Armstrong
Pete Rose
Richard Nixon "I am not a crook"
Barry Bonds
Mr an Mrs William Jefferson Clinton "I did not have sex with that woman"
Nick Saban
Sammy Sosa
Mark Mcguire
Manti Te'o ( I'm sure he'd like to hang out with Tom )
Alex Rodriguez
The list goes on but little Tommy fits in well with this group of peers. This is the way he'll be remembered like it or not

You have lost your effin mind if you think he belongs in the same breath as most of these guys. Get a grip.
 
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He already answered #1, you just don't like the answer. The other questions are quite silly.

That's because his answer is an obvious lie. No one I know routinely destroys their old phone especially on the same day you're meeting with Ted Wells. Turns out he had never destroyed any of his previous phones either. It was a pitiful, juvenile like excuse. So is it your theory that absolutely no wrong doing by Brady or any member of the entire Pats organization took place? That the massive fines,loss of draft picks that were accepted by the pats are are due to nothing more than a witch hunt? That the equipment guys that were fired were totally innocent? And finally that Ton Brady had absolutely no knowledge of any of it? If you believe any part of it then you're totally under medicated.
 
That's because his answer is an obvious lie. No one I know routinely destroys their old phone especially on the same day you're meeting with Ted Wells. Turns out he had never destroyed any of his previous phones either. It was a pitiful, juvenile like excuse. So is it your theory that absolutely no wrong doing by Brady or any member of the entire Pats organization took place? That the massive fines,loss of draft picks that were accepted by the pats are are due to nothing more than a witch hunt? That the equipment guys that were fired were totally innocent? And finally that Ton Brady had absolutely no knowledge of any of it? If you believe any part of it then you're totally under medicated.

He didn't destroy that one, he simply replaced it. And it's painfully easy to retrieve the info from any phone without the phone. In fact, Brady even offered to retrieve it and was told not to bother.
 
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That's because his answer is an obvious lie. No one I know routinely destroys their old phone especially on the same day you're meeting with Ted Wells. Turns out he had never destroyed any of his previous phones either. It was a pitiful, juvenile like excuse. So is it your theory that absolutely no wrong doing by Brady or any member of the entire Pats organization took place? That the massive fines,loss of draft picks that were accepted by the pats are are due to nothing more than a witch hunt? That the equipment guys that were fired were totally innocent? And finally that Ton Brady had absolutely no knowledge of any of it? If you believe any part of it then you're totally under medicated.

Equipment people were suspended, not fired. $1 million isn't a massive amount to Kraft, and he accepted the penalty after appeal. Kraft never admitted to anything, said the punishment was crap.

And remind me what punishment Brady got? Oh that's right, none. So by your own dumbass logic, you now have to admit he's innocent.
 
Equipment people were suspended, not fired. $1 million isn't a massive amount to Kraft, and he accepted the penalty after appeal. Kraft never admitted to anything, said the punishment was crap.

And remind me what punishment Brady got? Oh that's right, none. So by your own dumbass logic, you now have to admit he's innocent.
So just to summarize. You really believe that there was absolutely no wrong doing,cheating or attempt to break the rules by anyone on the entire Pats organization? Everything was a total fabrication by the league because of hate and jealousy? Please answer just so I know if I'm dealing with a rational individual.
 
So just to summarize. You really believe that there was absolutely no wrong doing,cheating or attempt to break the rules by anyone on the entire Pats organization? Everything was a total fabrication by the league because of hate and jealousy? Please answer jeust so I know if I'm dealing with a rational individual.

Keep trollin' trollin' trollin'
 
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Equipment people were suspended, not fired. $1 million isn't a massive amount to Kraft, and he accepted the penalty after appeal. Kraft never admitted to anything, said the punishment was crap.

And remind me what punishment Brady got? Oh that's right, none. So by your own dumbass logic, you now have to admit he's innocent.
Yes fired and suspended are really different.... anyway the dumbasses
Are sitting at home wishing they had never trusted Brady. They have some new sneakers and other team gear for souvenirs though. Your right that a million dollars is not much to Kraft but still the largest fine in NFL history. All of that punishment, draft picks etc should be overturned since all of this is absolutely nothing. We'll see if that happens. So in light of what has happened so far it either has to be all or nothing. People who defend Brady and company have to ask themselves if they really believe that all that punishment was doled out and everyone was totally innocent or if someone might have actually done something wrong. Can't have it both ways.
 
Yes fired and suspended are really different.... anyway the dumbasses
Are sitting at home wishing they had never trusted Brady. They have some new sneakers and other team gear for souvenirs though. Your right that a million dollars is not much to Kraft but still the largest fine in NFL history. All of that punishment, draft picks etc should be overturned since all of this is absolutely nothing. We'll see if that happens. So in light of what has happened so far it either has to be all or nothing. People who defend Brady and company have to ask themselves if they really believe that all that punishment was doled out and everyone was totally innocent or if someone might have actually done something wrong. Can't have it both ways.

Um yes.....suspended and fired ARE really different.

This guy.
 
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You do know that Friday's decision had nothing to do with the innocence or guilt of Brady right?
 
You do know that Friday's decision had nothing to do with the innocence or guilt of Brady right?
Yessir, you are exactly right. Which is why I can't understand why the Pat s defenders are treating it like some sort of vindication. Kraft and the organization are accepting a heavy fine and loss of draft picks. It's pretty much an admission of guilt. The judge just ruled that the suspension was too much.
 
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Yessir, you are exactly right. Which is why I can't understand why the Pat s defenders are treating it like some sort of vindication. Kraft and the organization are accepting a heavy fine and loss of draft picks. It's pretty much an admission of guilt. The judge just ruled that the suspension was too much.

No its not. You haven't actually paid attention to a single bit of the proceedings have you? You're just listening to the voices in your head huh?
 
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No its not. You haven't actually paid attention to a single bit of the proceedings have you? You're just listening to the voices in your head huh?

I've just about reached the conclusion that the people that defend this so fiercely couldn't be legitimate football fans. It's more about the idol/ celebrity worship of Brady. Those afflicted with is this man crush could care less about the integrity of the game. I would imagine that many of them have a large poster of Tommy hanging right over their bed.
 
I've just about reached the conclusion that the people that defend this so fiercely couldn't be legitimate football fans. It's more about the idol/ celebrity worship of Brady. Those afflicted with is this man crush could care less about the integrity of the game. I would imagine that many of them have a large poster of Tommy hanging right over their bed.

So your answer is no? Could've just answered "no"
 
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I've just about reached the conclusion that the people that defend this so fiercely couldn't be legitimate football fans. It's more about the idol/ celebrity worship of Brady. Those afflicted with is this man crush could care less about the integrity of the game. I would imagine that many of them have a large poster of Tommy hanging right over their bed.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the one who claimed to be the "rational" one.
 
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So your answer is no? Could've just answered "no"

You know whats funny? Orange plasma has consistently said Brady is a cheater. I have on two separate occasions asked him to provide evidence that backs up his statement. He has yet to provide any. Instead the only things he can come up with is whoever thinks Brady could be innocent is just a Brady lover with no sense.
 
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You know whats funny? Orange plasma has consistently said Brady is a cheater. I have on two separate occasions asked him to provide evidence that backs up his statement. He has yet to provide any. Instead the only things he can come up with is whoever thinks Brady could be innocent is just a Brady lover with no sense.
You brady groupies are in the minority and are living in a fantasy world. The majority of fans will always view brady and the Pats as blatant cheaters. You act like I should have first hand knowledge of evidence so why don't I produce it. That's rediculous. That's what unethical people do is destroy and cover up. That's what the Pats have done for years. Are they really being punished for nothing? Did spygate really happen? You people are trying to rewrite history. You need to answer my question that I've asked many times. Is anyone within the pats organization guilty of anything in your mind? Are you so paranoid that you think 70% of the world hates your team because they're successful. Are you afraid to face that question and answer it? I'll wait
 
You brady groupies are in the minority and are living in a fantasy world. The majority of fans will always view brady and the Pats as blatant cheaters. You act like I should have first hand knowledge of evidence so why don't I produce it. That's rediculous. That's what unethical people do is destroy and cover up. That's what the Pats have done for years. Are they really being punished for nothing? Did spygate really happen? You people are trying to rewrite history. You need to answer my question that I've asked many times. Is anyone within the pats organization guilty of anything in your mind? Are you so paranoid that you think 70% of the world hates your team because they're successful. Are you afraid to face that question and answer it? I'll wait

For the last time, that isn't the discussion here. It's only in your head.
 
You brady groupies are in the minority and are living in a fantasy world. The majority of fans will always view brady and the Pats as blatant cheaters. You act like I should have first hand knowledge of evidence so why don't I produce it. That's rediculous. That's what unethical people do is destroy and cover up. That's what the Pats have done for years. Are they really being punished for nothing? Did spygate really happen? You people are trying to rewrite history. You need to answer my question that I've asked many times. Is anyone within the pats organization guilty of anything in your mind? Are you so paranoid that you think 70% of the world hates your team because they're successful. Are you afraid to face that question and answer it? I'll wait

In both the Spygate and Deflategate cases, I think the Pats are "guilty" of doing things that every other organization does as well. I mean, Aaron Rodgers even admitted he likes the footballs a little more inflated, and has had the equipment managers prepare them accordingly.
 
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