GOP 2024 Plan B?

[SpaceCoastVol]

I think it is very arguable that he is not the Republican establishment's choice. The ruling elite abhor him because he's turned the world upside down on them. The regular everyday working class people are the ones supporting him resulting in elitist comments like LG's and other denigrating and sneering with "MAGA cultists" rhetoric at those they feel are beneath them.

*ding ding ding* Winner!

 

[LouderVol]

I'm talking about the political machine. Trump has always been an outsider. Mitch's acceptance is about the same as Trump holding an American flag or a Bible

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Trump was the other side of that machine. the previously hidden bit, that pulled the strings, funding certain candidates and pushing certain angles.

 

[lawgator1]

You supported until a few days ago someone who is mentally unfit for office. It was clear and obvious to most who didn't have an agenda. You allowed yourself, the press, your party, and those around him to ignore he's cognitively not fit for office. It wasn't until it became apparent he would lose you all lost your collective mind. You have lost all right to declare anything fake news, a right wing conspiracy, or that you are pro democracy.

I have been saying for a long time, and say even now, that if its Biden versus Trump, I'm voting for Biden. If its a potted plant versus Trump, chalk one up for potted plant.

But you keep converting that into me "supporting" Biden, in terms suggesting I think he'll be up to the task. And, you keep converting my simply anti-Trump vote as "supporting" the Dem nominee out of party loyalty, which is unfair and inaccurate.

My vote this year will be compelled by one thing, and one thing only, and that is that Trump is an abhorrent blowhard who should stick to a career trying to make it onto the Senior PGA Tour rather than have control over federal or international policy.

 

[lawgator1]

The regular everyday working class people are the ones supporting him resulting in elitist comments like LG's and other denigrating and sneering with "MAGA cultists" rhetoric at those they feel are beneath them.

Your description of the MAGA cult as simply "everyday working class people" is misleading because you omit that they are, by and large, uneducated (or poorly educated) and are resentful of racial minorities and science because it represents change to their perception of the way the world works, all of which is rapidly accelerating and leaving them in the dust.

 

[hog88]

I have been saying for a long time, and say even now, that if its Biden versus Trump, I'm voting for Biden. If its a potted plant versus Trump, chalk one up for potted plant.

But you keep converting that into me "supporting" Biden, in terms suggesting I think he'll be up to the task. And, you keep converting my simply anti-Trump vote as "supporting" the Dem nominee out of party loyalty, which is unfair and inaccurate.

My vote this year will be compelled by one thing, and one thing only, and that is that Trump is an abhorrent blowhard who should stick to a career trying to make it onto the Senior PGA Tour rather than have control over federal or international policy.

Which would be worse, Trump having control over federal and international policy or some unelected, unaccountable person/people hiding in the shadows?

 

[hog88]

Your description of the MAGA cult as simply "everyday working class people" is misleading because you omit that they are, by and large, uneducated (or poorly educated) and are resentful of racial minorities and science because it represents change to their perception of the way the world works, all of which is rapidly accelerating and leaving them in the dust.

You couldn't be more wrong.

 

[McDad]

Your description of the MAGA cult as simply "everyday working class people" is misleading because you omit that they are, by and large, uneducated (or poorly educated) and are resentful of racial minorities and science because it represents change to their perception of the way the world works, all of which is rapidly accelerating and leaving them in the dust.

You spend a lot of time talking with MAGA - folk, do you?

 

[McDad]

Which would be worse, Trump having control over federal and international policy of some unelected, unaccountable person/people hiding in the shadows?

Biden voters who are willing to abandon rational and objective thought, who are driven purely on emotion are the types of voters who elect people like Hitler.

 

[lawgator1]

You spend a lot of time talking with MAGA - folk, do you?

Sure. And they drive around town in their beaten up pick ups, proudly flying "in your face" Trump flags, wearing camouflage hats, which practically scream "Look at what a redneck I am!"

 

[hndog609]

Which would be worse, Trump having control over federal and international policy of some unelected, unaccountable person/people hiding in the shadows?

If elected Donald Trump will be the most microscopically scrutinized POTUS in history and quite possibly the future. The vast majority of current media will tear apart practically every action he ever takes. If he saved a baby from a shark there'd be a swath of headlines screaming "Trump destroying the ocean's feeding patterns".

If Biden were to be elected there would be basically no accountability regardless as literally nobody would (really, whether they claim to or not) believe Joe was running the country.

 

[McDad]

Sure. And they drive around town in their beaten up pick ups, proudly flying "in your face" Trump flags, wearing camouflage hats, which practically scream "Look at what a redneck I am!"

That's nice. When you speak with them, what do you speak about? Anecdotal evidence and cognitive bias???

 

[hog88]

Sure. And they drive around town in their beaten up pick ups, proudly flying "in your face" Trump flags, wearing camouflage hats, which practically scream "Look at what a redneck I am!"

That is such a small percentage and you know it.

 

[LouderVol]

I have been saying for a long time, and say even now, that if its Biden versus Trump, I'm voting for Biden. If its a potted plant versus Trump, chalk one up for potted plant.

But you keep converting that into me "supporting" Biden, in terms suggesting I think he'll be up to the task. And, you keep converting my simply anti-Trump vote as "supporting" the Dem nominee out of party loyalty, which is unfair and inaccurate.

My vote this year will be compelled by one thing, and one thing only, and that is that Trump is an abhorrent blowhard who should stick to a career trying to make it onto the Senior PGA Tour rather than have control over federal or international policy.

you have assigned the same designation to those who vote for Trump with the exact same reasoning. you are no different than those you claim to hate.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

So, as kiddiedoc said. Its still millennial speak, its strange.

I agree that no one wanted him in 2016, but since he won that nomination the party has rallied around him

 

[GroverCleveland]

Your description of the MAGA cult as simply "everyday working class people" is misleading because you omit that they are, by and large, uneducated (or poorly educated) and are resentful of racial minorities and science because it represents change to their perception of the way the world works, all of which is rapidly accelerating and leaving them in the dust.

If what you have said here is true, then approximately half the country, according to you, are poorly educated, resentful of minorities AND science because, basically, they are being left behind.

And this entire post of yours seems to be looking down at this approximately 50% you claim/believe/perceive to fall into this category.

Might want to read up on the demographics of this country and how the supporters of the various candidates fall within various categories.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Integrity? Like the left has any? If it weren't for the double standard, ya'll wouldn't have any at all.

Neither party has it.

The "ya'll" is so disingenuous and stupid

 

[GroverCleveland]

Sure. And they drive around town in their beaten up pick ups, proudly flying "in your face" Trump flags, wearing camouflage hats, which practically scream "Look at what a redneck I am!"

He's trolling now.

 

[lawgator1]

That is such a small percentage and you know it.

They are all over the place down here, like cockroaches.

 

[hog88]

I agree that no one wanted him in 2016, but since he won that nomination the party has rallied around him

No, the stalwarts and establishment within the party still want him gone.

Other than his SCOTUS picks the only other real positive from Trump being elected was it caused many of the Romney/McCain/McConnel clones within the party leadership to leave office.

 

[hog88]

They are all over the place down here, like cockroaches.

You're so FOS.

 

[LSU-SIU]

They are all over the place down here, like cockroaches.

Well, from the looks of it... the dems think the cockroaches outnumber you.

Have you consider the possibility that you need some type of intervention? Or medical help?

So, if someone doesn't vote for someone that clearly has dementia they're a roach and drive a pickup truck? Is that the gist of it?

 

[McDad]

They are all over the place down here, like cockroaches.

If you only encounter a few cockroaches, then "they" are the cockroaches. If you encounter nothing but cockroaches, then you are the cockroach.

 

[Carp]

Can you elaborate on how Trump is an "alter boy" compared to Clinton?

Clinton is a scumbag, no doubt - but I'm curious as to how you might attempt to justify that Trump isn't.

The worst we know he has done (and I say "know" rather loosely) is cheat on his wife with a porn star and pay her off. And the Dems had to conjure up some obscure charges just prosecute that case as a the lowest level Felony possible, past the date of statute of limitations. And this was of course after the FEC and DOJ both stated the case had no merit.

 

[LouderVol]

Your description of the MAGA cult as simply "everyday working class people" is misleading because you omit that they are, by and large, uneducated (or poorly educated) and are resentful of racial minorities and science because it represents change to their perception of the way the world works, all of which is rapidly accelerating and leaving them in the dust.

1. None of those things you falsely listed are mutually exclusive with everyday working class people.
2. you are just patently wrong on most of those or making gross oversimplifications and ignoring context.
2a: uneducated or poorly educated is only a measure of superficial gatekeeping by the elite. it would make no sense for "everyday working people" to go to 4 year universities to get some degree they don't use. if they are educated to do their job, and get on in life on their own, they are properly educated. now if you mean they believe too much BS just because Trump said it, I would agree with that, but that isn't an education thing.
2b: they aren't resentful of minorities in any meaningful percentage or way. the only thing are illegal immigrants, and that has nothing to do with the race of the individuals. and considering "MAGA" support amongst minorities is the highest the R's have ever seen, the data would say you are barking up the wrong tree.
2c: if by Science you mean the lies that Fauci publically pushed but not so privately blasted, then yeah. if you mean the global warming chicken littles who have had to revise their doomsday clock every decade, then yeah, tic toc AOC, tic toc. if you mean the politicians who actively silenced the various scientific individuals, groups, and theories without a lick of their own actual scientific counter arguments, then yeah. I doubt even a noticeable percentage of MAGA is actually YEC. you are going to have to get really specific with what actual SCIENCE they are resentful of. because I am pretty sure you mean "scientists" who are funded by biased groups pushing agendas. In fact your first point about education would call into question their ability to actually know enough to resent actual "science". a point probably too fine for you to understand, calling into question your own education, or at the very least actual understanding of what is actually science.
3. the topics you chose shows how purely your disagreements with "everyday working class people" is purely political and not backed up with any sort of data or actual logical arguments.

 

[LSU-SIU]

If you only encounter a few cockroaches, then "they" are the cockroaches. If you encounter nothing but cockroaches, then you are the cockroach.

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I find it pretty entertaining someone is talking smack about "uneducated" cockroaches and the guy is using not voting for a dementia patient, wearing camouflage, and driving pickup trucks as his base line.