Gravedigger of American Democracy? - - Mitch McConnell.

[DinkinFlicka]

Livin life as Mayday Malone? Sounds like a sweet gig to me.

"You own a business. You make a generous living and don't have to work very hard for it! Also, you're surrounded by young, attractive women!"

Oh but wait, in his scenario I'm a woman. Damn. Life sucks now.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Term limits

Mitch is absolute garbage but he *was* elected fair and square by his state.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Lot of posters, regardless of ideology, like to take pleasure in this kind of thing.

Too many.

 

[OrangeBoro]

@evillawyer you need to change her batteries

 

[LadyVolette]

@evillawyer you need to change her batteries

Oh Lawd.. you really have to worry about the people who have continued to vote her in at her age (applies to our side too when we do it)..it’s kind of mean when you think about it.. go home, love on your grandkids for God’s sake, we will all manage without you

 

[OrangeBoro]

Oh Lawd.. you really have to worry about the people who have continued to vote her in at her age (applies to our aide too when we do it)..it’s kind of mean when you think about it.. go home, love on your grandkids for God’s sake, we will all manage without you

I agree but also we need to blame their families. Their spouses and kids need to step in and tell them it’s over time to enjoy the rest of their time at home retired

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Read the first bit..dude is just another in a long of people with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

So easy, and LAZY to pass it off with insignificance as TDS. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Donald Trump created a new ideology within the Republican party. One that has benefitted him financially. It can't be debated intelligently, that he has grifted right wingers. It's well documented. He raised high seven figures last summer after the FBI raid on Mar-A-Lago. The very next day he sent out a letter stating the evidence was planted. It"a a fact. Read it. At the end of the letter was a request to donate. And yes, there was a big gray button to push

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

So easy, and LAZY to pass it off with insignificance as TDS. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Donald Trump created a new ideology within the Republican party. One that has benefitted him financially. It can't be debated intelligently, that he has grifted right wingers. It's well documented. He raised high seven figures last summer after the FBI raid on Mar-A-Lago. The very next day he sent out a letter stating the evidence was planted. It"a a fact. Read it. At the end of the letter was a request to donate. And yes, there was a big gray button to push

He'll write a book before he's dead detailing how he conned our most ignorant citizens

 

[EasternVol]

I don’t care so much about term limits as I do campaign finance reform. If an elected official is representing their constituents well for a couple of decades then they shouldn’t necessarily be forced to give them up. But unfortunately they learn how to serve and enrich themselves. Rules and laws could be stronger. Pay and benefits could be cut to make it not so lucrative to spend a lifetime in office.

Pay and benefits aren't the problems but campaign donations and side and post-term income are. We need to quash the payola.
We could triple their salaries if we could do away with them selling votes.

 

[EasternVol]

The two-year House term is stupid--too short. It means that the members spend half their time doing reelection-type work, especially the second year. IMO House terms should be four years--and then we should have, say, a three-term limit, so 12 years in office, max. And Senators should be limited to, say, three terms--that's just over 20 years. But we'll never get Congress to vote for putting a term limit on their cushy jobs.

They're not that busy in Congress so campaigning doesn't lower their productivity much. Two years is fine.
Term limits serve no real purpose and can deprive us of rare good legislators.

 

[EasternVol]

Oh Lawd.. you really have to worry about the people who have continued to vote her in at her age (applies to our aide too when we do it)..it’s kind of mean when you think about it.. go home, love on your grandkids for God’s sake, we will all manage without you

I think she was most recently reelected in 2018 and her condition really deteriorated after that. Anyone in such shape should resign but at least she won't run again. Biden should but won't follow suit.

 

[LadyVolette]

I think she was most recently reelected in 2018 and her condition really deteriorated after that. Anyone in such shape should resign but at least she won't run again. Biden should but won't follow suit.

You just have to wonder is it power? ego? they think they are the only person that is capable of doing the job? They love the public service life so much? I don’t think it’s money.. they all seem set financially.. so my butt would be at home or on the beach somewhere maybe write a memoir or paint or something fun lol

 

[EasternVol]

So easy, and LAZY to pass it off with insignificance as TDS. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Donald Trump created a new ideology within the Republican party. One that has benefitted him financially. It can't be debated intelligently, that he has grifted right wingers. It's well documented. He raised high seven figures last summer after the FBI raid on Mar-A-Lago. The very next day he sent out a letter stating the evidence was planted. It"a a fact. Read it. At the end of the letter was a request to donate. And yes, there was a big gray button to push

And his minions continue to pour money on him, poor waif that he is.

 

[MontyPython]

 

[EasternVol]

You just have to wonder is it power? ego? they think they are the only person that is capable of doing the job? They love the public service life so much? I don’t think it’s money.. they all seem set financially.. so my butt would be at home or on the beach somewhere

Maybe when she ran last time she thought she was good for 6 more years. A lot of people enjoy what they do and don't want to stop. If they can continue competently, why not? We've had some coherent Methuselahs in Congress. Party leadership needs to step in when a Senator or Representative can no longer function.

 

[FLVOL_79]

So easy, and LAZY to pass it off with insignificance as TDS. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Donald Trump created a new ideology within the Republican party. One that has benefitted him financially. It can't be debated intelligently, that he has grifted right wingers. It's well documented. He raised high seven figures last summer after the FBI raid on Mar-A-Lago. The very next day he sent out a letter stating the evidence was planted. It"a a fact. Read it. At the end of the letter was a request to donate. And yes, there was a big gray button to push

Bro..you're commenting on a post that is 5+ years old..

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Bro..you're commenting on a post that is 5+ years old..

Ok. The facts I cited are a year old, about Trump anyway

 

[FLVOL_79]

"You own a business. You make a generous living and don't have to work very hard for it! Also, you're surrounded by young, attractive women!"

Oh but wait, in his scenario I'm a woman. Damn. Life sucks now.

So brave! Have you had a period yet?

 

[C-south]

"You own a business. You make a generous living and don't have to work very hard for it! Also, you're surrounded by young, attractive women!"

Oh but wait, in his scenario I'm a woman. Damn. Life sucks now.

Yea chics dig Beavis doppelgängers.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Term limits serve no real purpose and can deprive us of rare good legislators.

One of the dumbest things I have ever seen posted on this board.

There are many benefits that term limits serve. I will focus on the most important 2.

1) Term limits would eliminate the biggest problem which Congress has ... the career politician. Term limits would provide more people with real-world experience from all walks of life an opportunity to serve in elected office. More entrepreneurs, teachers, doctors, small business owners, and business execs would be inclined to run, with realistic opportunities of winning. In other words, more talented people. These more talented people would stand a better chance of winning, when they don't have to oppose incumbents with huge war chests accumulated over time. Fewer people running purely for their own self-interest like Joe Biden and Chuck Grassley would be interested, without having as much time to sell influence.

2) Term limits would get corporate PAC money out of politics. 97% of corporate PAC money goes to the incumbents because the lobbyists and special interest groups have already exerted their influence over them. Term limits stop those ties from becoming unconditional, long-term relationships ... which too many Republicans have with the NRA.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Yea chics dig Beavis doppelgängers.

You going after my sex life is as big an ironic joke as you going after my income.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So brave! Have you had a period yet?

If I did C-south would be my crusty maxipad.

 

[n_huffhines]

Lot of posters, regardless of ideology, like to take pleasure in this kind of thing.

I definitely think we should behave and be nice, but JFC, he's 81. This is what 81 YO's do. This isn't that weird or tragic, or however we want to label it. He had a good run. If he cared about his health, he would've given up on this life a while back, so why should I be considerate of his health? I don't understand old people hanging on for dear life to the stresses of young living. Whether you're Lee Corso or Mitch McConnel, go enjoy your wealth, family, and retirement, and let somebody else have a turn. I can't wait to retire and play.

IDK why American politicians have got to be so fkn old. It's the most bizarre thing. Name one old AF politician who is good for America.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

One of the dumbest things I have ever seen posted on this board.

There are many benefits that term limits serve. I will focus on the most important 2.

1) Term limits would eliminate the biggest problem which Congress has ... the career politician. Term limits would provide more people with real-world experience from all walks of life an opportunity to serve in elected office. More entrepreneurs, teachers, doctors, small business owners, and business execs would be inclined to run, with realistic opportunities of winning. In other words, more talented people. These more talented people would stand a better chance of winning, when they don't have to oppose incumbents with huge war chests accumulated over time. Fewer people running purely for their own self-interest like Joe Biden and Chuck Grassley would be interested, without having as much time to sell influence.

2) Term limits would get corporate PAC money out of politics. 97% of corporate PAC money goes to the incumbents because the lobbyists and special interest groups have already exerted their influence over them. Term limits stop those ties from becoming unconditional, long-term relationships ... which too many Republicans have with the NRA.

It's not that dumb. Term limits should be legislated,, yes! Making it the issue as to why Congress isn't working now is lazy. The influx of new blood has deteriorated progress. Both sides have been electing fringe candidates during the last two 20 years, and none of them have put forth any positive legislation. It"s all about the culture war on both sides of the aisle

 

[n_huffhines]

One of the dumbest things I have ever seen posted on this board.

There are many benefits that term limits serve. I will focus on the most important 2.

1) Term limits would eliminate the biggest problem which Congress has ... the career politician. Term limits would provide more people with real-world experience from all walks of life an opportunity to serve in elected office. More entrepreneurs, teachers, doctors, small business owners, and business execs would be inclined to run, with realistic opportunities of winning. In other words, more talented people. These more talented people would stand a better chance of winning, when they don't have to oppose incumbents with huge war chests accumulated over time. Fewer people running purely for their own self-interest like Joe Biden and Chuck Grassley would be interested, without having as much time to sell influence.

2) Term limits would get corporate PAC money out of politics. 97% of corporate PAC money goes to the incumbents because the lobbyists and special interest groups have already exerted their influence over them. Term limits stop those ties from becoming unconditional, long-term relationships ... which too many Republicans have with the NRA.

I remember seeing some research that studied states that have implemented term limits and it doesn't seem to have fixed anything because, theoretically, special interests are really good at manipulating inexperienced politicians.