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If the goal of the media is to get people to read their articles/blogs and talk about what they read, then what does it say when a media member is writing about what is written on a message board?
 
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ukvols said:
If the goal of the media is to get people to read their articles/blogs and talk about what they read, then what does it say when a media member is writing about what is written on a message board?
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That he's doing it wrong :)
 
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I don't know. From what I've seen, there's a pretty even distribution of Pearl "haters" and supporters on here. I know there's also a lot of folks who don't like what Coach Pearl did and think he should be punished but who also still support him as our coach. Maybe I don't read enough of the basketball-related posts.
 
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Theme of Basketball threads: Someone gives love to Bruce Pearl. Hat steps in and shows his hatred for Bruce, obviously jealous of his incredible tanning booth skills. person calls hat out as a hater. Hat retaliates by correcting said persons grammar or throwing stats out that only hat knows. Said person comes back at hat by saying he isn't a true Vol fan. Hat call him stupid without actually saying the words. Said person throw 3-4 more insults out. Hat sends out the bat signal to alert all his friends who show up to support hats arguments. both realize they still support the same team even though they call each other mean names. hugs all around. Someone says Pearl is the best coach UT has ever had..... repeat cycle again.
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If they really want to prove people wrong, they should go to Pearl and beg to go back to the "controlled chaos" stupidity. Winning big in March with that would sure show Tanning Bed's critics.
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see....:thumbsup:
 
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Funniest thing to me is the number of posters who before last year's NCAA run, stated how Pearl couldn't coach half-court offense or defense.:birgits_giggle: Bruce Pearl forgot more about the game than all those questioning him will ever know. Even funnier are those who bash him at every opportunity yet cozy up to sleazebags like Calipari and Huggins. Those posters get laughed at on a regular basis by coaches and players who read the message board. And to think some of those "know-it-all" posters actually think they are credible beyond this board. There is some irony for you.



I think Pearl is a great coach. No... I KNOW Pearl is a great coach. Does that make me a Pearlophile? LOL
 
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63Vol said:
Funniest thing to me is the number of posters who before last year's NCAA run, stated how Pearl couldn't coach half-court offense or defense.:birgits_giggle: Bruce Pearl forgot more about the game than all those questioning him will ever know. Even funnier are those who bash him at every opportunity yet cozy up to sleazebags like Calipari and Huggins. Those posters get laughed at on a regular basis by coaches and players who read the message board. And to think some of those "know-it-all" posters actually think they are credible beyond this board. There is some irony for you.



I think Pearl is a great coach. No... I KNOW Pearl is a great coach. Does that make me a Pearlophile? LOL
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Exactly... if these guys were so knowledgeable they would 1. Have their own board/site 2. Get paid for it.
 
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tvols75 said:
Exactly... if these guys were so knowledgeable they would 1. Have their own board/site 2. Get paid for it.
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I think Hat does know quite a bit about teams, players, recruits, etc... He seems to be plugged into the scene pretty well, but as far as his evaluations of head coaches go, he is fairly biased and has a hard time being objective.
 
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63Vol said:
I think Hat does know quite a bit about teams, players, recruits, etc... He seems to be plugged into the scene pretty well, but as far as his evaluations of head coaches go, he is fairly biased and has a hard time being objective.
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Agreed he is knowledgeable when he doesn't include his bias and middle school name calling.
 
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63Vol said:
I think Hat does know quite a bit about teams, players, recruits, etc... He seems to be plugged into the scene pretty well, but as far as his evaluations of head coaches go, he is fairly biased and has a hard time being objective.
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I have no problem being objective about what happens on the floor. I consider Huggins a friend. That didn't keep me from writing the other night that West Virginia isn't very good. It's not like I have some veiled agenda. I've never hidden my personal opinion about Pearl, which isn't going to change. However, I've given him his due credit for making adjustments to his style of play I thought his ego wouldn't let him make.

I'm under zero obligation to be objective in my opinions about people's personalities or their chartacter. I've disliked Bruce Pearl for 20 years, dislike him now, and will always dislike him. I don't try to hide it. It puzzles me why people have such a tough time getting their heads around that.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I've disliked Bruce Pearl for 20 years, dislike him now, and will always dislike him. I don't try to hide it. It puzzles me why people have such a tough time getting their heads around that.
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It's because you come across as extremely objective, fair, and reasonable about every other topic, and you come across as exactly the opposite when you discuss Pearl.

You do have that right, as you say. But as a relative noob to this site, I will admit that at first it was a bit jarring. I had to re-read a few posts to make sure it was the same guy posting wild personal attacks alongside well-reasoned basketball posts.

I'm used to it now, and it doesn't bother me, but I can see how it confuses people.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I have no problem being objective about what happens on the floor. I consider Huggins a friend. That didn't keep me from writing the other night that West Virginia isn't very good. It's not like I have some veiled agenda. I've never hidden my personal opinion about Pearl, which isn't going to change. However, I've given him his due credit for making adjustments to his style of play I thought his ego wouldn't let him make.

I'm under zero obligation to be objective in my opinions about people's personalities or their chartacter. I've disliked Bruce Pearl for 20 years, dislike him now, and will always dislike him. I don't try to hide it. It puzzles me why people have such a tough time getting their heads around that.
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I understand completely; however, I don't believe some of the others are as distinctive with their thoughts as you. I think Pearl has always understood the half-court game, but just didn't have the players to execute it successfully. I don't think everyone understood that aspect of it. I think many believe he was a "gimmick" type of coach. Hearing the opinions of some rather credible sources, I knew this wasn't the case. After meeting him and getting an "earfull" on his take of the game, it further cemented my opinion.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I have no problem being objective about what happens on the floor. I consider Huggins a friend. That didn't keep me from writing the other night that West Virginia isn't very good. It's not like I have some veiled agenda. I've never hidden my personal opinion about Pearl, which isn't going to change. However, I've given him his due credit for making adjustments to his style of play I thought his ego wouldn't let him make.

I'm under zero obligation to be objective in my opinions about people's personalities or their chartacter. I've disliked Bruce Pearl for 20 years, dislike him now, and will always dislike him. I don't try to hide it. It puzzles me why people have such a tough time getting their heads around that.
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Ok but here's what I don't understand, and you don't like me and I don't like you but please explain.

Bob Huggins character is probably shadier than Pearl's. DUIs, probation, stripped of scholarships, his staff was said by the NCAA to give improper favors to players, and mislead investigators, and he is a shady recruiter. So tell me why you don't bash Huggins?
 
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tvols75 said:
Ok but here's what I don't understand, and you don't like me and I don't like you but please explain.

Bob Huggins character is probably shadier than Pearl's. DUIs, probation, stripped of scholarships, his staff was said by the NCAA to give improper favors to players, and mislead investigators, and he is a shady recruiter. So tell me why you don't bash Huggins?
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:good!:
Excellent point.
 
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tvols75 said:
Ok but here's what I don't understand, and you don't like me and I don't like you but please explain.

Bob Huggins character is probably shadier than Pearl's. DUIs, probation, stripped of scholarships, his staff was said by the NCAA to give improper favors to players, and mislead investigators, and he is a shady recruiter. So tell me why you don't bash Huggins?
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1. It's one DUI.
2. The eventual findings of the NCAA against Cincinnati included egregious stuff like former Vol Tim McGee giving Charles Williams tickets to a Bengal game. The NCAA alleged all sorts of major violations, then really found nothing.
3. Ask his peers, nobody in the recruiting game is more honest to kids. I can attest to that first hand.
4. I don't ever remember Huggs running around acting like he was The Last Honest Man In College Basketball. If he had spent the last 20 years acting like the picture of ethical virtue, then lied to the NCAA, I'd rip him.
 
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hatvol96 said:
1. It's one DUI.
2. The eventual findings of the NCAA against Cincinnati included egregious stuff like former Vol Tim McGee giving Charles Williams tickets to a Bengal game. The NCAA alleged all sorts of major violations, then really found nothing.
3. Ask his peers, nobody in the recruiting game is more honest to kids. I can attest to that first hand.
4. I don't ever remember Huggs running around acting like he was The Last Honest Man In College Basketball. If he had spent the last 20 years acting like the picture of ethical virtue, then lied to the NCAA, I'd rip him.
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Let me guess you think those 2 black eyes were from him running into a shower door as well?

Also to point 2. Pearl just had a BBQ but he lied about it. Just like Huggins' and staff mislead investigators. Doesn't matter about the seriousness of the violation in both cases, it matters about the misleading information.

Huggins was terrible at graduating players, and I guess you feel he was very ethical at recruiting players without a coaching job, right? In his time at Cincy, 19 players were charged with crimes.
 
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Here's the point... you will respond trying to defend Bob Huggins when there's a whole lot more in the arsenal to fire back with than there is against Bruce Pearl. But you bash those who defend Bruce and say they're dumb asses. To not like the man is one thing, but to continue on and on about him when you consider Bob Huggins a friend is a little much.
 
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tvols75 said:
Let me guess you think those 2 black eyes were from him running into a shower door as well?

Also to point 2. Pearl just had a BBQ but he lied about it. Just like Huggins' and staff mislead investigators. Doesn't matter about the seriousness of the violation in both cases, it matters about the misleading information.

Huggins was terrible at graduating players, and I guess you feel he was very ethical at recruiting players without a coaching job, right? In his time at Cincy, 19 players were charged with crimes.
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If you are using drinking, graduating players, and off court player conduct to attack Huggins, Bruce Pearl better not be the guy you are holding up as in ideal. Good to see you buy media hype without knowing the truth. Huggs' alleged terrible graduation rate is something that has been shredded here about 20 times.

Why wouldn't he recruit while he was waiting on his next job? He would have been an idiot not to.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If you are using drinking, graduating players, and off court player conduct to attack Huggins, Bruce Pearl better not be the guy you are holding up as in ideal. Good to see you buy media hype without knowing the truth. Huggs' alleged terrible graduation rate is something that has been shredded here about 20 times.

Why wouldn't he recruit while he was waiting on his next job? He would have been an idiot not to.
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Because you will try to use the excuse of JUCO players... even though he graduated 28 percent of the freshmen he had as well.

I've never said Pearl was a saint, but to bash Pearl but defend Huggins is a bit hypocritical. I like Huggins as a coach, it doesn't mean I agree with his morals. Same goes with Bruce Pearl.
 
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tvols75 said:
Because you will try to use the excuse of JUCO players... even though he graduated 28 percent of the freshmen he had as well.

I've never said Pearl was a saint, but to bash Pearl but defend Huggins is a bit hypocritical. I like Huggins as a coach, it doesn't mean I agree with his morals. Same goes with Bruce Pearl.
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How many guys did Pearl graduate out of the Ramar-Duke-Tabb class? See where West Virginia's APR number is in two years, then compare it to Tennessee's. Then, come talking to me about academics.
 
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hatvol96 said:
How many guys did Pearl graduate out of the Ramar-Duke-Tabb class? See where West Virginia's APR number is in two years, then compare it to Tennessee's. Then, come talking to me about academics.
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And once again you missed the point... not surprising.
 
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