Ground zero mosque.

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#151
KiffinKiller said:
Though both examples are irrelevant in the long run because Christianity largely took back everything Islam gained in the late 1000s early 1100s. They are kidding themselves if they still celebrate victory over the Byzantine Empire.
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It's more symbolic, they have tradionally built Mosques in places where they have defeated an opponent.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You are presumably not aware that the author of that article is a discredited and disgraced lunatic who thinks that there is a terrorist Muslim lurking in the snacks aisle at every local grocery store.

Right?
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You would have said that about anyone who I quoted, so your statement really does not matter much to me.

If one Tea Party member killed someone in the name of the Tea Party movement you would have a complete different arguement.

You all want to say that Islam is just a religion and that is not the case. They are a political movement, a way of life and a cult.
 
#155
#155
volfanjustin said:
You would have said that about anyone who I quoted, so your statement really does not matter much to me.

If one Tea Party member killed someone in the name of the Tea Party movement you would have a complete different arguement.

You all want to say that Islam is just a religion and that is not the case. They are a political movement, a way of life and a cult.
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You could make that argument about many religions. I went to my first catholic easter mass two years ago - and it seemed cultish to me. You need to take a step back before you judge.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
You could make that argument about many religions. I went to my first catholic easter mass two years ago - and it seemed cultish to me. You need to take a step back before you judge.
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Did they teach mass murder if someone would not convert? I doubt it, and there is the difference.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
Am I missing something? Isn't the Dome of the Rock still a christian symbol? If not judaism - i'm unfamiliar.
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Nope. Pretty much Muslim. Has always been. Sitting on the temple mount which was (actually still is) the holiest site in Judaism.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
You could make that argument about many religions. I went to my first catholic easter mass two years ago - and it seemed cultish to me. You need to take a step back before you judge.
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I would not judge ceremony as Biblical. I will no doubt be killed by my Catholic friends for saying this. But even among Protestant denominations there is quite a bit of ceremony that have nothing to do with being Biblical.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You are presumably not aware that the author of that article is a discredited and disgraced lunatic who thinks that there is a terrorist Muslim lurking in the snacks aisle at every local grocery store.

Right?
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Discredited by whom???

Do you deny the iman proposing the mosque refuses to call Hamas a terrorist group, even though the Hamas charter calls for the extermination of all Jews in Israel/Palestine??

If there is a lunatic in this conversation it isn't the author of the article linked by Justin.
 
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#168
gsvol said:
Do you deny the iman proposing the mosque refuses to call Hamas a terrorist group, even though the Hamas charter calls for the extermination of all Jews in Israel/Palestine??
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is that illegal?
 
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#170
Lets talk about what's right and what ain't. Building a mosque within sight of the attack by EXTREMIST muslims not your everyday muslims mind you but wolves in sheeps clothing muslims, brothers that ain't right. It's like erecting a memorial to British soldiers at Bunker Hill or Japanese pilots over the Arizona. It is against what has been taught you since you were a kid ...red white and blue baby long live America!
 
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#171
lawgator1 said:
You are presumably not aware that the author of that article is a discredited and disgraced lunatic who thinks that there is a terrorist Muslim lurking in the snacks aisle at every local grocery store.

Right?
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Depends on who "declared" him to be "discredited and disgraced lunatic" and why.

Leftists declare people "lunatics" and "discredit" them often based on nothing more than they don't like the conclusions. Who cares about facts? If someone mentions that a black person is many times less likely to be the victim of a crime committed by a white person than a white person is a black person... then to the left you are racist even though gov't statistics completely support that fact. If you point out that social programs do not work then you are an extremist hater that doesn't want to help anyone. If you point out that homosexual promiscuity is STILL the biggest factor perpetuating the spread of HIV in the west then you are a mindless homophobe.

Forgive me if I don't trust it when leftists declare someone "discredited" or "disgraced". More times than not, the person has simply followed the data to a politicall incorrect conclusion and had the audacity to announce it.
 
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#172
dan4vols said:
Lets talk about what's right and what ain't. Building a mosque within sight of the attack by EXTREMIST muslims not your everyday muslims mind you but wolves in sheeps clothing muslims, brothers that ain't right. It's like erecting a memorial to British soldiers at Bunker Hill or Japanese pilots over the Arizona. It is against what has been taught you since you were a kid ...red white and blue baby long live America!
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War memorials are a little different than mosques backed by extremists, but i see your point.

Difference is - soldiers sometimes just have to do what their told. Terrorism is a little diffirent.
 
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sjt18 said:
Depends on who "declared" him to be "discredited and disgraced lunatic" and why.

Leftists declare people "lunatics" and "discredit" them often based on nothing more than they don't like the conclusions. Who cares about facts? If someone mentions that a black person is many times less likely to be the victim of a crime committed by a white person than a white person is a black person... then to the left you are racist even though gov't statistics completely support that fact. If you point out that social programs do not work then you are an extremist hater that doesn't want to help anyone. If you point out that homosexual promiscuity is STILL the biggest factor perpetuating the spread of HIV in the west then you are a mindless homophobe.

Forgive me if I don't trust it when leftists declare someone "discredited" or "disgraced". More times than not, the person has simply followed the data to a politicall incorrect conclusion and had the audacity to announce it.
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They aren't leftists. They are just idiots. There's idiots on all sides though.
 
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#175
volfanjustin said:
That is the frustrating thing about this arguement, you all want to slam Christians and other religions over what they done centries. I know what a very radical "religion" wants and is doing rignt now.
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you're actually the one that introduced the stuff from the 7th century
 
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