Gun control debate (merged)

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85SugarVol said:
The Kentucky long rifle was the “weapon of war” of the day. Soldiers carried it, Citizens carried it.

The Framers saw fit to enshrine in the Constitution our right to bear arms, including the most lethal arms of the day.

Do you think they didn’t envision technological advancement with regards to firearms?
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It's and argument made by idiots for idiots.

Interesting trivia; the US has had detachable box magazine fed semi auto rifles* for civilian use for 118 years. That's longer than the time from the ratification of the 2A to there being such rifles being sold...114 years.

*Note that's just pointing out rifles that are mechanically analogous to modern semi rifles. Firearm designs allowing for multiple shots go back much further.
 
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evillawyer said:
Whether you're pro or anti additional gun laws, this is an effective ad.

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And does freedom of speech not include anything on the internet, radio, television, phones, etc? Those are far far bigger technological jumps than what guns have made.

it would destroy the whole Constitution to assume it only stops at 1770s technology.

and as others have pointed out, the gun technology of the time was more advanced than given credit for. it wasn't just flintlocks.
 
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I'm glad to see SCOTUS taking up the case but I still think the plaintiffs are going about it wrong. In my uneducated legal opinion they should be challenging the ban on property rights grounds, probably a violation of the 14th amendment since the ban deprived citizens of property without due process. Also there was no grandfather clause for units already legally purchased nor provisions for compensation. The .gov can't with a stroke of a pen make it illegal to own an item that was previously legal to own without compensation.

Supreme Court agrees to hear case over ban on bump stocks for firearms
 
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Public assertion: "There are too many guns in America, they are too easy to buy, and we have the worst gun violence
in the world by a huge, highly embarrassing and shameful margin, because our regulations are soft."

Gun nuts: "But you don't know that much about guns."

Public: "Oh, my....They are cray-cray."
 
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turbovol said:
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you mean like this study they did back in 2013?

Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press

Read chapter Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence: In 2010, more than 105,000 people were injured or killed in the Uni...
nap.nationalacademies.org

"Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2013. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | The National Academies Press."

Part of the reason the funding got pulled is because the studies were completely one sided, biased data is bad data, and ignore defensive gun use, ignoring another set of data points. if you actually sit down and read most of the actual studies on gun violence they state their biases, or at the end they will note how their particular study should not be used for outside context.
 
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