Gun control debate (merged)

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#28,987
kiddiedoc said:
Which is so weird: none of the guns that I or any of my law-abiding family and friends possess have ever shot anybody.

I wonder what the difference is?
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Idiotic response. Has it not occurred to you that nearly all of the people who murder people with guns were "law-abiding gun owners"
prior to committing their crimes? Apparently not--as that would require you to think. The Las Vegas shooter who killed 67 and wounded
more than 200 was a "law-abiding gun owner" before checking into that hotel and opening fire. Has it occurred to you that there are probably millions of Americans walking around with troubles or mental-health issues of one kind or another---depression, drug or alcohol addiction, anger issues, chilid-custody fights, nervous breakdown, lost job....on and on..and on?

Most of the people with mental issues in America don't even get diagnosed, much less treated. And a lot of people starting having life problems, they build over time, and they snap--and the snapping includes opening fire with guns. And if you make gun ownership very easy in a country full of people with problems, you, as states and a nation, are being grossly stupid and irresponsible. So the "I'm a law-abiding gun owner" argument doesn't mean squat--because tomorrow you might not be. But one would need to think to understand that.....
 
#28,988
#28,988
"Missouri has extremely weak gun laws, ranked 38th in the country by the non-profit Everytown for Gun Safety, which noted that the state has “one of the highest rates of gun deaths, gun homicide rates, and household firearm ownership”.

Gun owners in the state are not required to obtain a permit to purchase rifles, shotguns, or handguns, do not have to register their firearms or be licensed to own them, and do not need a permit to carry them, according to the National Rifle Association.

Over the last decade there have been 154 mass shootings in the state, killing 156 people and injuring 582, CNN reports – totals that don’t include today’s numbers."

Law-abiding gun owners? Please, stop with that nonsense.
 
#28,991
#28,991
turbovol said:
Idiotic response. Has it not occurred to you that nearly all of the people who murder people with guns were "law-abiding gun owners"
prior to committing their crimes?
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Now you're just making things up. You think murder is the first transgression? You think most murders are committed with a lawfully owned firearm?
 
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#28,998
#28,998
turbovol said:
Idiotic response. Has it not occurred to you that nearly all of the people who murder people with guns were "law-abiding gun owners"
prior to committing their crimes? Apparently not--as that would require you to think. The Las Vegas shooter who killed 67 and wounded
more than 200 was a "law-abiding gun owner" before checking into that hotel and opening fire. Has it occurred to you that there are probably millions of Americans walking around with troubles or mental-health issues of one kind or another---depression, drug or alcohol addiction, anger issues, chilid-custody fights, nervous breakdown, lost job....on and on..and on?

Most of the people with mental issues in America don't even get diagnosed, much less treated. And a lot of people starting having life problems, they build over time, and they snap--and the snapping includes opening fire with guns. And if you make gun ownership very easy in a country full of people with problems, you, as states and a nation, are being grossly stupid and irresponsible. So the "I'm a law-abiding gun owner" argument doesn't mean squat--because tomorrow you might not be. But one would need to think to understand that.....
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To sum it up, it's a mental health/people problem. Not a gun problem.
 
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