Hadden hate

#51
#51
I dont particularly like Hadden and have been plenty critical of him on here.

Don't condone and wouldn't boo the guy in person though.

That being said, it isn't my place to tell other people how to be a fan.
 
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#52
#52
ILOVEMYBIGVOLS said:
He’s a huge liability on the field ( tackling and coverage). I don’t hate the guy or anyone wearing the orange for that matter. His constant talking and lack of backing up said talking is probably why most fans don’t care for him that much.
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What’s makes it extra frustrating is that he’s actually a really good open field tackler. And he’s great in coverage as far as sticking with his man. Never gets toasted. He just has random brain lapses like when he tried to shoulder the dude in the Florida game, or doesn’t get his head around on deep balls. The ability is there. And he’s usually very good. The bad plays stick out though. Certainly doesn’t deserve to get boo’d. That’s ridiculous
 
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Sudden Impact said:
But it doesn't speak to Hadden it speaks to coaching. Which proves you know nothing by berating Hadden.

So your point is shifting because you really don't know what the problem is as it could be communication, defensive play calling, missed assignments, poor play.

Look back at the interception last night. Hadden was in position to stop the first down as well as another player. Best to say in position to stop the play vs he got lucky with Interception. He was where he was suppose to be as well as the other player in under coverage.

Team sport with individual assignments. The defense meet the need by being in position and got an overthrow interception for a TD. We were right for a change and the players were where they needed to be.
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I didn’t berate him. He has things within his control (e.g., don’t talk trash when you just got burned, turn your head as the ball is approaching, etc.) that he should be significantly better at as a RS senior. But that’s why I said it’s an indictment on the coaches that they either haven’t coached him better or have a better replacement in year 3. I just rewatched the interception again, and it was a horrible/dumb throw from Rattler. It was 3rd and 22 so Hadden and McDonald were well off the receivers as you’d expect. I’m not sure I would use that as an example of our DBs improving. It was prevent style scheme. I’ve seen enough at this point to understand the frustration.
 
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#56
Backwards K said:
Hadden had a much better game. But, the pick 6 occurred on a pass that way overthrown by Rattler. Hadden was so far off the receiver, he was able to leap and make a nice catch and return.
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I saw that. The int wasn’t because of his tight coverage
 
#57
#57
37620VOL said:
Hadden has given up less than 100 yards all season and opponents are only completing 38% against him.

He also has an 80+ pff grade on the season.
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So the source of your all knowing knowledge is PFF. Matthews said he should be benched; does he know nothing of football?
 
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VAVol85 said:
It was Slaughter according to announcers. I don’t think Hadden has had any unsportsmanlike penalties this year. But, some think he has 2-3 every game.
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And he doesn’t get PI THAT often either.
Sin City Vol said:
The Hadden treatment reminds me of when Arian Foster was here. His mistakes are usually at the worst times, which makes them 10x worse than normal mistakes. He played really good last night , his pick 6 was more Rattlers bad pass but it was a great moment
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Yeah Foster got unfairly labeled a fumbler even though he’s the second leading all time rusher for the school. He had some detrimental ones for sure. But he also played big part in a lot of wins.
 
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BenGrimm said:
In the pregame roster announcements there was a low rumble of Boos when they announced Hadden. I get that the guy has had some busts that have hurt us but that’s just uncalled for for our home crowd to boo any of our players. Really irritated me.

I doubt he heard it because the team was in the locker room at that point. But the recruits may have heard it and thats a bad look.

I was happy for him getting that pick 6 after that.
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If he didn’t hear it, he now knows about it.
 
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37620VOL said:
Hadden has given up less than 100 yards all season and opponents are only completing 38% against him.

He also has an 80+ pff grade on the season.
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But he talked smack in an embarrassing loss last year and got a couple PI’s vs AP. I can’t excuse his shoulder bump no-effort attempt to tackle in the FL game.

Nothing wrong with criticizing those plays. I’m sure he hears about it from his coaches too.

At the same time I just can’t imagine the coaches sitting someone better in favor of him. That’s just silly fan talk.
 
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37620VOL said:
People that hate on Hadden are either lazy or don't know crap about football.
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You don’t have to know much about football to recognize that his effort at tackling against FL was pitiful and his running of his mouth in the SC game was inexcusable
 
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TartanTurff said:
He was out of position on the interception, Rattler completely overthrew his receiver and Hadden was 8 yards behind the receiver and the ball was thrown right to him.

Hadden talks a lot of trash, collects the unsportsmanlike penalties and regularly demonstrates piss poor play at the corner, he doesn't need to be booed, he just doesn't need to be on the field and if we had more talent and better instruction in the secondary, he wouldn't need to be on the team.
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Out of position? Clearly you never played the game. SMDH
 
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BACKDOC said:
Unless they called the wrong #, he was not the player that was flagged after his TD. In fact when that happened I was so afraid it would cost us, but our D was up to the task. GBO
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Even on TV and the in studio net work couldn’t believe they flagged us for unsportsmanlike and they also kept asking why. It was with the team and not toward any opposing player. GBO
 
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#70
joevols89 said:
Very few. They weren’t in the student section though which is where I heard most of the boos coming from. It wasn’t just few boos either. And I saw people in Tennessee gear with my own eyes booing him, so move along.
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If you witnessed it then I believe you. After last season I know that Gamecock fans don’t care for Hadden either which is why I questioned the source of the booing. Thanks for clarifying.

Go VOLS
 
#71
#71
Volfan8282 said:
I didn’t berate him. He has things within his control (e.g., don’t talk trash when you just got burned, turn your head as the ball is approaching, etc.) that he should be significantly better at as a RS senior. But that’s why I said it’s an indictment on the coaches that they either haven’t coached him better or have a better replacement in year 3. I just rewatched the interception again, and it was a horrible/dumb throw from Rattler. It was 3rd and 22 so Hadden and McDonald were well off the receivers as you’d expect. I’m not sure I would use that as an example of our DBs improving. It was prevent style scheme. I’ve seen enough at this point to understand the frustration.
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Improving, words it all starts with Coaching. Who's playing, Defensive scheme, communication down to the player. If he is not good enough for you then so be it, but who are you going to replace him with comes down to a coaches' decision based on what they see as best available. Don't berate the player because players have no control of who plays and who does not. New term for Vol football is Woke.
 
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37620VOL said:
People that hate on Hadden are either lazy or don't know crap about football.
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Yeah? Why don’t you educate us? We”ll get Doug Matthews on the phone too since you know more than him. Going to a lot of Tennessee High games doesn’t make you any kind of expert.
 
#73
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BenGrimm said:
In the pregame roster announcements there was a low rumble of Boos when they announced Hadden. I get that the guy has had some busts that have hurt us but that’s just uncalled for for our home crowd to boo any of our players. Really irritated me.

I doubt he heard it because the team was in the locker room at that point. But the recruits may have heard it and thats a bad look.

I was happy for him getting that pick 6 after that.
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Man, I was disappointed in that booing as well. Like, I get it, people are frustrated with him. But don't actively boo our players at our games. They need us on their side to perform well. I also also extremely happy he got that TD.

If you want to complain, that's what these forums are for. lol
 
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