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#126
#126
thats true, about dean he's out there in his own fantasyland, but bush amazes me at the lies and other things that come out of his mouth. if they could impeach clinton for lying about having alittle fling with his intern. they should hang bush for treason.
 
#127
#127
They didn't impeach Clinton for having a fling with an intern. They impeached him for perjuring himself by lying under oath.

 
#128
#128
and bush has lied about the war and god knows how many other things. so damage done clinton gets a slap on his butt from his wife and bush gets off free as usual. the man should be tried for treason. i don't know about anybody else but when bush talks i shut the tv off. what's the use every other word is a lie, he just spats out propoganda alot like hitler. i mean it is scary, how somebody can arrange a war and people still think he's the greatest.
 
#129
#129
Let me make sure I've got this straight on my scorecard. So far you've got Bush lying, committing treason (I think you need to go look up the definition), compared Bush to Adolf Hitler and accused him of arranging a war.

How do you knock what Howard Dean says and then post stuff that Dean wouldn't even say?
 
#130
#130
(smokedog#3 @ Mar 29 said:
and bush has lied about the war and god knows how many other things. so damage done clinton gets a slap on his butt from his wife and bush gets off free as usual. the man should be tried for treason. i don't know about anybody else but when bush talks i shut the tv off. what's the use every other word is a lie, he just spats out propoganda alot like hitler. i mean it is scary, how somebody can arrange a war and people still think he's the greatest.
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It took 7 pages but the left-wing extremist "bush=hitler" statement finally showed its head.

Treason? Please back up with facts that call for such a charge, one that merits death by our laws if proved. Clinton's lies were told under oath, that's perjury.

One of the amazing things that has come out of this is the short memory of Dems. They forget that, under the leadership of the guiding light of the Democrats, illegal surveillance on American citizens was used frequently. Then they use the death of one of his victims as a pulpit to call Bush out for it! That President was JFK and at least our current administration is not going to the lengths they did.
 
#131
#131
i've never felt as bad about a U.S president as this joker we have now. i've even talked about moving to canada, but my wife isn't to sure on that one. this president used propaganda to scare americans to rally a war against iraq. hitler used the same tactics. bush owns the congress and senate so he can't get called on any of this. this is where america has failed. the government has complete control the people none. this joke of a president will go down as the one who destroyed the united states. he sold us to china, started a war for nothing, and drove america into the gutter and people praise him for it. he's a hell of a guy.
 
#132
#132
(smokedog#3 @ Mar 29 said:
i've never felt as bad about a U.S president as this joker we have now. i've even talked about moving to canada, but my wife isn't to sure on that one. this president used propaganda to scare americans to rally a war against iraq. hitler used the same tactics. bush owns the congress and senate so he can't get called on any of this. this is where america has failed. the government has complete control the people none. this joke of a president will go down as the one who destroyed the united states. he sold us to china, started a war for nothing, and drove america into the gutter and people praise him for it. he's a hell of a guy.
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Seriously need to back some of this up or is it all opinion? I hardly call 9/11 propaganda. We also used intel from France, Russia, and Britain to prove the case for war. Why not call them out as well?

If Congress is owned by Bush then why the backlash from them on the ports deal? They were yelling from both sides of the aisles on that one. Also, why has his SS reform not passed?

China is not Bush's doing, it is Clinton's. MFN status??

America into the gutter? We are creating new jobs every month. According to every known factor our economy is growing. It is also built on something besides a .com bubble like the '90's.

When Bush rounds up millions of Jews and gasses them then I will agree. Until then it is just a needless, inflammatory statement.
 
#133
#133
(smokedog#3 @ Mar 29 said:
i've never felt as bad about a U.S president as this joker we have now. i've even talked about moving to canada, but my wife isn't to sure on that one. this president used propaganda to scare americans to rally a war against iraq. hitler used the same tactics. bush owns the congress and senate so he can't get called on any of this. this is where america has failed. the government has complete control the people none. this joke of a president will go down as the one who destroyed the united states. he sold us to china, started a war for nothing, and drove america into the gutter and people praise him for it. he's a hell of a guy.
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Comparing Bush to Hitler is a little harsh. Besides, Bush is just a puppet, he's not really making any major decisions, he's just doing what he's told. I mean, the man can barely put a sentence together...you're giving him too much credit. :D
 
#134
#134
(utvolpj @ Mar 29 said:
America into the gutter? We are creating new jobs every month. According to every known factor our economy is growing. It is also built on something besides a .com bubble like the '90's.
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War is great for the economy! It ended the great depression.

I am far from a Bush fan, but I agree the comparison to Hitler is a bit much.
 
#135
#135
allright everybody knows bush lied about the war in iraq. intellegence was misled to the american people by the brits and bush's boys to start the war. 9\11 bush knew it was going to happen and did nothing, sat on his rear end and did nothing fact. he wanted and needed it to happen so he had a excuse to go to war. bush had already talked about going to war with iraq before 9\11 anyway. congress is owned by bush, but on a rare occasion like the ports deal they will not support him to save there own butts, besides frist. it is a election year and bush's ratings suck so they atleast have to act like they are against it. the ss program hasn't passed because it is so messed up that it will never pass. like i said these senators value there lazy jobs. clinton didn't just barrow 2 trillion dollars to pay for a war that should have never happened and katrina that was a good portion bush's fault anyways because he can't tell what a natural disaster looks like. yep we create more and more jobs that make less and less money why everything cost more and more, sounds pretty good. comparing bush to hitler was a bit harsh, but he uses some of the tactics he used to get what he wants. i always voted split ticket untill 3 republicans that can't hardly talk started running us into the ground. bush is one, the only thing i can say lucky his old man was worth billions. bob taft govenor of ohio completely destroyed the state, 3 heaviest taxed state in the u.s. and john mccain saying illegals are good for the american economy as he trys to sell his estate for 10 million dollars.
 
#136
#136
(utvolpj @ Mar 29 said:
I hope she does get the nomination. As a conservative I see her as the lightning rod Dems should not put out there. If you thought the Repubs came out in 2004, just wait until she is on the ticket. There is not a more polarizing figure in American politics today. As for Dean, it absolutely amazes me what comes out of his mouth.
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That's exactly why I don't think she'll get through the primaries. I just can't believe that Democrats are going to magically unite behind her.
 
#138
#138
(govols @ Mar 29 said:
All I can say is go George W. Bush!
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I'm with you, let's see if we can make it $10 Trillion dollars in debt!!! :focus:

:whistling:

 
#140
#140
If Kerry had won we would have been dead probably now because he would have done something stupid.
 
#142
#142
He must be pretty smart if he knew 9/11 was coming and was able to orchestrate Hurricane Katrina and military action in Iraq. :focus:
 
#144
#144
no GA VOL it takes a idiot to sit on his hands and watch american lives get destroyed because of his stupidity, but that what america has. now we can watch gas prices go to 7 dollars a gallon on the first hurricane so bush can make another 50 billion. the man is a joke, or a nightmare i can't figure out which.
 
#145
#145
(govols @ Mar 29 said:
If Kerry had won we would have been dead probably now because he would have done something stupid.
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I don't even know where to start with that comment so I won't.

I'll just say that scaring the U.S. citizens is one big reason that Bush was re-elected. We aren't in as much danger as the Bush administration would like you to think.
 
#146
#146
Do you think maybe it had more to do with John Kerry being just a horrible candidate for middle America?
 
#147
#147
(GAVol @ Mar 29 said:
Do you think maybe it had more to do with John Kerry being just a horrible candidate for middle America?
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I didn't think that Kerry was a good candidate. He certainly wouldn't have been my choice for the Democratic ticket.

Kerry lost that election when Karl Rove got dirty and Kerry chose to take the high road everytime they attacked him. He didn't fight for it and lost IMO.


 
#148
#148
I don't think Kerry was ever going to win. He's just the kind of guy that never wins national elections. (Al Gore, Bob Dole etc.)
 
#149
#149
(GAVol @ Mar 29 said:
I don't think Kerry was ever going to win. He's just the kind of guy that never wins national elections. (Al Gore, Bob Dole etc.)
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Maybe, but Bush didn't win in a landslide. Some would argue that Bush didn't even win the first election but I don't want to get into that.

I will say that love him or hate him...Karl Rove is a good puppeteer.

But no, Kerry wasn't a strong candidate from the get go..
 
#150
#150
Smokedog, please move to Canada. One thing I find interesting is your little joke about our currency having a chinese man on it. I would think you would find that appealing since you are already considering moving to socialist-leaning Canada, one step removed from communism.

By the way, if you do move, don't come back to the U.S. when you get sick, I hear their healthcare system is the best.
 
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