Hat Crimes

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#101
hog88 said:
Ok so you're not completely insane.
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Yeah he is. I refute his contention that a red MAGA hat is becoming elevated to the point that it is worth comparing to those symbols.

The swastika was the political symbol of a nation bent on world dominance at the point of a gun and extinguishing races and ethnicities of people they deemed as sub par. This is unlawful.

The confederate battle flag was initially wielded by the sessionist stateโ€™s army on the field of battle. The act of succession was was unlawful to the remaining republic. The flag was later brandished by the KKK. Their acts of oppression on blacks and other minorities are unlawful.

The red MAGA hat is worn by and large by law abiding citizens exercising their rights of free speech. There is nothing unlawful in their speech and to elevate such a claim is indeed insane as far as Iโ€™m concerned.
 
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luthervol said:
No denying the fact, I do hate Trump
There are multiple actions taken and words spoken by Trump that indicate he's a racist (high scorer on the continuum). We can agree to disagree on that, but a growing majority feel as do I.
I'm pathetic and disgusting and the new Nazi party? Welcome to Trumpland I guess.
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So now you represent a growing majority. Right.
 
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tennvols77 said:
Luth, it's not FACT, and it ain't critical mass. You need to stay off the computer, TV, and all other avenues and go out and live life my man.

The fact of the matter is the majority of American's are decent and don't really give a sh** about the politicians and all of their lies or any of the crap the media throws out daily.

We want to be left alone, pay our taxes, be able to earn the best livelihood we can, take care of our families, and be able to go about our lives.

The vast majority don't even think about any of the racist or sexist or hate that the media thinks we do, not even a millisecond of thought a day unless it's thrown in our face from the media.

The lunatic fringe is 10-15% on both sides, then there are the rest of us. Stop believing the doom and gloom your fed daily and go out and volunteer some more, go on a vacation, do anything other than what you currently are doing to restore some semblance of reality and decency in your fellow country men.

Aside from political differences we all do want the same things relatively speaking. As I've stated before, I've enjoyed talking with you outside of this political forum and it makes it much easier to view you as likeable, disregard the political and religious spectrums and let's start to concentrate on what we have in common, and go from there. Life would be better for everyone.
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Good post. (for the most part) I think I go on more vacations than 90% of the country and I have loads of interactions out in that proverbial real world. I agree with most of what you say. We are all much more alike than we are different, which is all the more reason to be saddened to witness what Trump is doing to this country.
 
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luthervol said:
Good post. (for the most part) I think I go on more vacations than 90% of the country and I have loads of interactions out in that proverbial real world. I agree with most of what you say. We are all much more alike than we are different, which is all the more reason to be saddened to witness what Trump is doing to this country.
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Doing so well until you had to throw it in......but it's ok,



my 2Pac "cause I ain't mad at ya" gif won't upload......so imagine it's here above
 
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#107
volfanjustin said:
according to you all on the far left, every R to run for office has been a racist that's a losing recipe for you all so please continue
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We're all on the continuum. Trump was just one of the highest scores among the 16 republican candidates.
 
#108
#108
Student attacked for wearing a pro-Trump 'Make America Great Again' hat at Calgary college
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  • Incident occurred at Mount Royal University in Calgary, Canada
  • Matt Linder was wearing the controversial Trump cap on campus
  • Another student, Zoe Slusar, demanded he remove the hat
  • She said the slogan represented 'hate language'
Student attacked for wearing a pro-Trump hat at Calgary college | Daily Mail Online
 
#109
#109
luthervol said:
Only enough time to quickly respond to one, so I pick Hogg.
I stated that the red MAGA hat was becoming a symbol (no longer just a hat) much like the confederate flag or swastika.
You can disagree all you wish, but it's a fact.
People disagreed with the confederate flag becoming the symbol which it became, but it didn't change the reality.
I'm sure some disagreed with the way the symbolism of the swastika evolved, but it didn't change the reality.
Of course I don't find wearing a hat as equally disgusting as physical assault, no one does, that's absurd.
What I find equally disgusting is knowingly displaying a symbol that has come to represent bigotry, hatred, and racism to a critical mass of society.
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How does the slogan make America great again represent bigotry, hatred and racism?
 
#110
#110
luthervol said:
And to think he's still a despised racists in the eyes of most all of those people he so generously helped. He made the calculated choice of which side to placate.
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I would say that you are wrong. Quit drinking the kool-aid.
 
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luthervol said:
Good post. (for the most part) I think I go on more vacations than 90% of the country and I have loads of interactions out in that proverbial real world. I agree with most of what you say. We are all much more alike than we are different, which is all the more reason to be saddened to witness what Trump is doing to this country.
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What has he done that's hurting this country?
 
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#114
#114
luthervol said:
Utterly fascinating thread. (kind of sad I felt it necessary to add the blue font)

You guys do realize the MAGA red hat is quickly becoming the new rebel flag.
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Oh look, a new sprout from Godwin's Law. Make an association and then universally condemn.
 
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#115
Hmmmm
 
#116
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yeah he is. I refute his contention that a red MAGA hat is becoming elevated to the point that it is worth comparing to those symbols.

The swastika was the political symbol of a nation bent on world dominance at the point of a gun and extinguishing races and ethnicities of people they deemed as sub par. This is unlawful.
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That was not the original meaning of the swastika. It was co-opted by an evil group. I don't think it's crazy to think the same could be doing with another symbol
 
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#117
Obviously, people harassing and acting violent towards others for their attire are the real issue, but I don't get why anybody would wear a MAGA hat. I don't get putting any politician's bumper sticker on your car, let alone going with the symbol of the biggest provocateur ever. Yeah, much about Trump is misunderstood, but that doesn't make wearing the hat a smart decision. Much about the confederacy is misunderstood, so normal people stopped waving confederate flags. It's like talking back to the police. You have a right to do it, you're not wrong for doing it, but you're running a great risk of having an unpleasant ending.
 
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#119
utvolpj said:
That was not the original meaning of the swastika. It was co-opted by an evil group. I don't think it's crazy to think the same could be doing with another symbol
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Iโ€™m well aware of that. The swastika was co-opted by the Nazis. The confederate battle flag was co-opted by the Klan and other race haters. The red MAGA hat is no such thing and the agenda to attempt to make the connection is ridiculous. Itโ€™s free speech. Respect these peopleโ€™s rights to their speech or acting against them is behaving exactly like the BS claims being levied against the MAGA hat wearers.
 
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#120
n_huffhines said:
Obviously, people harassing and acting violent towards others for their attire are the real issue, but I don't get why anybody would wear a MAGA hat. I don't get putting any politician's bumper sticker on your car, let alone going with the symbol of the biggest provocateur ever. Yeah, much about Trump is misunderstood, but that doesn't make wearing the hat a smart decision. Much about the confederacy is misunderstood, so normal people stopped waving confederate flags. It's like talking back to the police. You have a right to do it, you're not wrong for doing it, but you're running a great risk of having an unpleasant ending.
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I don't know why other people care so much what other people are wearing. If mob mentality starts being the deciding factor in what people can and cannot wear then we are in for some troubling times ahead.
 
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#121
n_huffhines said:
Obviously, people harassing and acting violent towards others for their attire are the real issue, but I don't get why anybody would wear a MAGA hat. I don't get putting any politician's bumper sticker on your car, let alone going with the symbol of the biggest provocateur ever. Yeah, much about Trump is misunderstood, but that doesn't make wearing the hat a smart decision. Much about the confederacy is misunderstood, so normal people stopped waving confederate flags. It's like talking back to the police. You have a right to do it, you're not wrong for doing it, but you're running a great risk of having an unpleasant ending.
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Nobody should be running a great risk for wearing a damn political slogan hat. Letโ€™s go back in time and harass every damn Obama/Biden hat wearer in 2012 or Hillary hat wearer in 2016. They have a right to their free speech. Just like the MAGA hat wearers do today.
 
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#122
Electric Orange said:
I don't know why other people care so much what other people are wearing. If mob mentality starts being the deciding factor in what people can and cannot wear then we are in for some troubling times ahead.
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If somebody were wearing a hood, would you understand why people care? Whether or not people are right or wrong in believing this, they see MAGA hats as a symbol of racism. That's the reality, and it's based on some truths. I don't think Trump is a racist in any sort of meaningful way (maybe in harmless old man ways), but the fact of the matter is he appeals to racists and they wear the MAGA hat, so if you wear it, you are running the risk of being associated with them in many people's minds.

It's the same thing as the Confederate flag. At some point, people had to let go of it, even tho it was just a minority that viewed it as a symbol of racism.
 
#123
#123
n_huffhines said:
If somebody were wearing a hood, would you understand why people care? Whether or not people are right or wrong in believing this, they see MAGA hats as a symbol of racism. That's the reality, and it's based on some truths. I don't think Trump is a racist in any sort of meaningful way (maybe in harmless old man ways), but the fact of the matter is he appeals to racists and they wear the MAGA hat, so if you wear it, you are running the risk of being associated with them in many people's minds.

It's the same thing as the Confederate flag. At some point, people had to let go of it, even tho it was just a minority that viewed it as a symbol of racism.
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They are stupid to believe that.
 
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#124
MAGA hats wouldn't be much of a thing if fragile liberals didn't have a meltdown when they see them.

Lot of people wear them for the sole reason that they cause uncontrolled rage in those who dislike Trump. Some just like knowing their antagonizing Trump haters. Others are doing it hoping to get a reaction.

It's your own fault.
 
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#125
n_huffhines said:
If somebody were wearing a hood, would you understand why people care? Whether or not people are right or wrong in believing this, they see MAGA hats as a symbol of racism. That's the reality, and it's based on some truths. I don't think Trump is a racist in any sort of meaningful way (maybe in harmless old man ways), but the fact of the matter is he appeals to racists and they wear the MAGA hat, so if you wear it, you are running the risk of being associated with them in many people's minds.

It's the same thing as the Confederate flag. At some point, people had to let go of it, even tho it was just a minority that viewed it as a symbol of racism.
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Just because some people allowed themselves to be manipulated into believing that bs doesn't mean that their ignorance is an excuse to act violently towards others.
 
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