Having Sufficiently Gloated, Some Serious Thoughts.

#276
#276
T.N. Buckingham said:
In other words, let him tote the party line without challenge. He can challenge everyone. But no one should be able to engage him.

Message boards do not work that way. If he's going to post hypothetical Pollyanna b.s. about the wonderful world ahead of U.T. after this firing, then he's going to be challenged.

If you don't like it, then you know the location of the ignore button. I suggest blocking everyone except OP so you can play cheerleader without ever being annoyed with differing opinion against your hero.
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I like differing opinions. What's yours?
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#277
#277
Weezer said:
Have you noticed the "ignore" button? If Hat bothers you that much, don't read his posts. I mostly read posts, and only post occasionally myself. I've not always agreed with Hat's sentiments, but he's always been consistent for his dislike of Pearl and the reasons why. Now Pearl has shown him to have been right all along. All the Pearl lovers threw smack at him for having the opinion that he did. If he wants to gloat a little, let him. Get thicker skin or life is really going to suck for you.
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He was wrong about the success Pearl had here.

Maybe he was right about the character, that argument can certainly be made.
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#278
#278
Tenacious D said:
Hamilton made the announcement now for three primary reasons:

1. Self-preservation, distancing himself from BP

2. Foreshadowing, to curtail whatever difficulties could arise from making a potential run in tourney

3. Entree, to deeper discussions with potential replacements
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May have also been pressured by boosters to make some public noise.
 
#279
#279
kptvol said:
May have also been pressured by boosters to make some public noise.
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Sorry, but this idea that MH was told or forced to run his mouth and giggle while "wondering" what day it was is inaccurate. People he answers to are not pleased. He blew it by getting into something he shouldn't have at a time he shouldn't. It's not complicated or deep. He just choked.
 
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#280
pl3 said:
Sorry, but this idea that MH was told or forced to run his mouth and giggle while "wondering" what day it was is inaccurate. People he answers to are not pleased. He blew it by getting into something he shouldn't have at a time he shouldn't. It's not complicated or deep. He just choked.
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I don't think it was suggested he handle things quite the way he did, but I know that with the last guy Hamilton fired, he wasn't the only one wanting the decision made public. I don't claim to have any knowledge regarding Bruce's termination.
 
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#281
I can't believe Hamilton said what he did in that interview without the blessing of others that have power; if he did than he's likely toast and made a dumb move.

Did he use the wrong words, possibly and I doubt that those involved thought this would be the result but I can't be believe he said what he did without others in power giving their blessing.
 
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#282
Hamilton is not an idiot. Those in power wanted him to make public comments. He knew when he went on the show what questions were going to be asked. The timing for the team is not good, but the timing for looking for another coach is impeccable.
 
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#284
BasketvolsFan said:
Hamilton is not an idiot. Those in power wanted him to make public comments. He knew when he went on the show what questions were going to be asked. The timing for the team is not good, but the timing for looking for another coach is impeccable.
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Who in power are you referring to? You are correct in that Hamilton isn't an idiot, but intelligent people make stupid mistakes too. Haslam, Cheek, and key boosters gave no such direction. You are throwing darts, but there is nothing there to hit. Booster support for Hamilton took a huge hit this week.
 
#287
#287
lawgator1 said:
Hat, if you had to guess, what percentage of your dislike for Pearl is born simply because of the current issue with the NCAA versus how much is general dislike of him for many reasons? As I recall, you were a naysayer long before this controversy.

I'd peg it at 15 % the current issue, 85 % disdain for him otherwise.

And I count myself among those who think UT can do better, in the long run.
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Profound and deep.
 
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#288
pl3 said:
Who in power are you referring to? You are correct in that Hamilton isn't an idiot, but intelligent people make stupid mistakes too. Haslam, Cheek, and key boosters gave no such direction. You are throwing darts, but there is nothing there to hit. Booster support for Hamilton took a huge hit this week.
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If you honestly think that Hamilton went public with his comments and major boosters, the trustees, and all others in a power position had no idea he was doing so, I have nothing else I can provide that would help you. Except, that he would have been fired when this aired if that was not the case.
 
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#290
T.N. Buckingham said:
In other words, let him tote the party line without challenge. He can challenge everyone. But no one should be able to engage him.

Message boards do not work that way. If he's going to post hypothetical Pollyanna b.s. about the wonderful world ahead of U.T. after this firing, then he's going to be challenged.

If you don't like it, then you know the location of the ignore button. I suggest blocking everyone except OP so you can play cheerleader without ever being annoyed with differing opinion against your hero.
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If you want to challenge Hat, fine, just do so with logical arguements. Don't stick with the same old "you're just a hater" arguement that everyone seems to use. Where it concerns Pearl, I do not recall ever reading one of Hat's posts where his opinion of the man has changed. He has always stated his distaste for the man. There is a misconception that you have to love a coach to love UT. That is not a fact. Hat always posts, IMO, fair post-game summaries. Would someone who didn't love UT basketball take the time to write up his take on every single game? I think not. No one does that just to stir up the message board.

I know how message boards work. No matter how much I wish they would be based on intelligent, rational conversation, they always boil down to childish, immature antics, from both sides.

Hat may be the scum of the earth, or he could be a saint of a man. I don't know him personally. I'm not his cheerleader. He doesn't appear to need one as his every post results to a flurry of thread activity. As far as my hero, well, that's just another tired antic that so many seem to use. Anyone who agrees with him is lumped into the category of being a "Hat disciple". I mean, heaven forbid that some of us actually think for ourselves and have formed similar opinions. I mean, that just can't be, can it? No, the truth is Hat is a modern day Jim Jones and we, his kool-aid drinking followers, just blindly accept everything he posts as fact.

Seriously, I don't need anyone to think for me. I'm quite capable of that myself. The truly brainwashed are those who hold the mistaken belief that any given coach IS the program. I enjoyed the successes under Pearl and wish he hadn't created this situation, but he did. Now he has to face the consequences of his actions. If those consequences involve him losing his job, which I believe they should, then so be it. We move on. Our basketball program does not cease to exist. CBP is not UT basketball, he's just the guy currently driving the bus. It appears we will soon have a new driver. Hopefully he keeps it on the road we've been on. Nothing suggests that that is not a possibility.
 
#291
#291
Hatvol, are the three coaches that you mentioned, still in play? any more info to be offered?
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#295
#295
hatvol96 said:
Two of them are. I'd say UT will have their answers within the next 72 hours.
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Anderson, Turgeon and...Brownell?

I know you can't say whether those are right, but if Lawrence Frank is willing to listen to us, why isn't he near the top of the list?
 
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#296
VKAman said:
Anderson, Turgeon and...Brownell?

I know you can't say whether those are right, but if Lawrence Frank is willing to listen to us, why isn't he near the top of the list?
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I'd be stunned if Lawrence Frank would seriously entertain a college job.
 
#297
#297
VKAman said:
Anderson, Turgeon and...Brownell?

I know you can't say whether those are right, but if Lawrence Frank is willing to listen to us, why isn't he near the top of the list?
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St Louis Dispatch reported that MA was close to signing an extension with Mizzou.
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#299
#299
hatvol96 said:
Two of them are. I'd say UT will have their answers within the next 72 hours.
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So I guess it's not Mooney then (or Smart or Stevens, but I don't think you were ever quite as high on them). Marshall and Turgeon? Brownell? Hoping it isn't Mike Anderson--I think we can do better.
 
#300
#300
Hey hat, don't know if you saw before, but since you said that two of three contacted can be hired within 72 hours, does that mean it's no one in the sweet 16?
 
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