HBO's "Game of Thrones"

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I'm a book reader and I loved it. I hope the books diverge a lot to minimize the spoilers.

The books already are vastly divergent, but the end is going to be the same. A ton if stuff along the way is already different.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

So, who dies tonight?

My money is on Brienne, Sansa or Arya.

Sansa nor Arya are dying yet...if Brienne goes down it will be protecting Sansa or saving Jaime...maybe doing both at the same time. Maybe nobody dies tonight, it is a setup episode IMO. Tyrion may die at the hands of Bronn.

 

[Grand Vol]

Sansa nor Arya are dying yet...if Brienne goes down it will be protecting Sansa or saving Jaime...maybe doing both at the same time. Maybe nobody dies tonight, it is a setup episode IMO. Tyrion may die at the hands of Bronn.

I'm still not sure which side Bronn is on. It very well could be he double crosses Clyburn, says he killed Tyrion and Jamie, then shoves a sword into his neck.

Or he could kill Jamie and Tyrion.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I'm still not sure which side Bronn is on. It very well could be he double crosses Clyburn, says he killed Tyrion and Jamie, then shoves a sword into his neck.

Or he could kill Jamie and Tyrion.

I don't think he gets both, and I do believe he goes through with it. The guy in the books and the show is who he is. He is a treacherous self-serving killer that makes a lot of wisecracks, so people overlook how bad of a person he is. I like the character, but I know what he is, it would shock me for him to do anything less thsn go after the brothers. I don't think he wants to, but he will.

 

[drvenner]

GRRM is on record as saying their endings similar

He also has said the show has diverted a good deal already. Each new season has potential to divert further because the m neither of the last two books are considered finalized yet.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

He also has said the show has diverted a good deal already. Each new season has potential to divert further because the m neither of the last two books are considered finalized yet.

How we are getting to the end is already completely different, I personally don't give a dang about whether it is spoiled or not. I can know the ending and if I like it..I still want to see how they got there. If this story has a ending that sucks for me, then I am going to super pissed that I wasted vast amounts of time over decades following a story that I end up hating..

The Mist is my most hated movie of all time if that tells you anything...great story to me right up till the end. That one movie ruined everything for me, it is why I read the back of books now. I am on edge about GoT, I just hope they don't go the Mist route or I will never spend another second or penny watching or reading anything to do with GRRM or his stories.

 

[drvenner]

The books already are vastly divergent, but the end is going to be the same. A ton if stuff along the way is already different.

I'm still holding out hope the endings will be somewhat different as long as neither the WW nor Cersei wins lol.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I'm still holding out hope the endings will be somewhat different as long as neither the WW nor Cersei wins lol.

It's got to be "Somewhat" different just because the circumstances leading up to the end are different. I don't want the end of the story, show or movie, to suck and leave you feeling empty and depressed. That's all I care about at this point. I hate that feeling. Just like I hate the end of the LSU or NC games, or a billion others (feels like) in the last 20 years.

 

[drvenner]

There hasn’t been a movie, or a TV show episode as long as a movie, that had as little dialogue in it as last night’s episode since silent movies were the rage. I watched it at work late this morning and one of my co-workers was like, “I’ve heard very little dialogue in what you’re watching, just mostly yelling and grunting.” Just something uncommon in this day and age, I thought.

I guess you don't watch much porn at work lol

 

[drvenner]

Jorah and Theon haven't been major characters since season 3 or 4.

Wut?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I guess you don't watch much porn at work lol

I don't see how anybody could watch porn at work..too many trips to the bathroom..

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Wut?

See...that is how you spot idiot opinions to pay no attention to right there.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Sick and hurt this morning..had to take the day off and take a bunch of medicine...disclaimer for any post that offend.

 

[JCP201]

How did I miss that? When did that happen?

 

[drvenner]

IMO, the tv show has done stupid stuff with regards to what Arya can do. Taking a face not only allows her to look like her victim, but also change body size to match the victim, and take their voice as well? Dumb.

Spending a few months in Braavos getting her butt kicked by another faceless man trainee, and she's suddenly a super ninja assassin in Westeros? Meh.

I thought she spent quite a bit longer than a few months there.

 

[drvenner]

That helped refresh my memory. Thanks very much

 

[drvenner]

IMO, the tv show has done stupid stuff with regards to what Arya can do. Taking a face not only allows her to look like her victim, but also change body size to match the victim, and take their voice as well? Dumb.

Spending a few months in Braavos getting her butt kicked by another faceless man trainee, and she's suddenly a super ninja assassin in Westeros? Meh.

I thought she spent quite a bit longer than a few months there.

Not me bro, I wanted them both dead and the WW winning. Or at least one of the dead in the effort to kill the NK. Always have said GoT is t about the righteous winning, it’s about the struggle to live righteous in a world that is the exact opposite. Sometime, the good guys die and that makes good TV. Not this mainstream fantasy good conquering all crap

We see plenty examples of the bad guy winning in the real world. I am glad it went down how it did.

 

[drvenner]

It would be crazy and fitting if after the last battle when Cersei is defeated and good has triumphed, the Night King takes over Bran through his connection to him and raises all the fallen dead and kills everyone.

Either that or Bran does it himself to return Westeros to how it was when the Children Of The Forest were the only ones there

Crazy. Yes. Fitting? Not at all. I would be so mad lol.

 

[JCP201]

I don't think he gets both, and I do believe he goes through with it. The guy in the books and the show is who he is. He is a treacherous self-serving killer that makes a lot of wisecracks, so people overlook how bad of a person he is. I like the character, but I know what he is, it would shock me for him to do anything less thsn go after the brothers. I don't think he wants to, but he will.

I really think Bronn is going to kill one of our favorites: Whether it's Jaime, Tyrion or Brienne trying to save Jaime-- or someone unexpected like Dany.

 

[drvenner]

Prediction for the end: After Cersei and Euron are dealt with, Sansa plots to kill Dany and remove her from the Iron Throne picture completely with the help of Arya in order to elevate the Starks due to Jon's refusal to stand up to her/claim the throne for himself (they were still building up that conflict, even in the Stark crypt).

Arya, fresh off of saving humanity and overconfident, gets caught attempting to assassinate Dany (maybe via fire, being unaware that Dany can't be burned). Dany, already paranoid and feeling emboldened due to the throne now being hers, orders Arya's execution (via dragonfire...something absolutely shocking and brutal). Jon finds out, flips out, and we get a dragon battle between him and Dany. Jon wins and abdicates the throne.

Not sure what happens after that. Sansa and Tyrion ruling together to unite the Starks and Lannisters would be interesting, but I'm not sure Sansa would/should get to rule after plotting an assassination. Maybe the throne goes to Gendry.

I can see a dragon battle between Jon and Dany. There were lots of dragon battles in Targaryen history.

 

[JCP201]

Emilia Clarke tells 'Game of Thrones' fans Episode 5 is bigger than the Battle of Winterfell - CNN

 

[VolNExile]

Sansa nor Arya are dying yet...if Brienne goes down it will be protecting Sansa or saving Jaime...maybe doing both at the same time. Maybe nobody dies tonight, it is a setup episode IMO. Tyrion may die at the hands of Bronn.

I'm guessing you meant "aren't dying yet". If so, I agree.

How about this:
Bronn tries to kill both Tyrion and Jaime
He kills Tyrion
Brienne dies defending Jamie, killing Bronn in the process
Jamie will then (later episode) kill Cersei

 

[VolNExile]

--erebody please program your phones to spell Qyburn, not Clyburn etc

somehow "Clyburn" and variants make me think of Mr. Drysdale from the Beverly Hillbillies, and my brain goes all wack

thanks muchly

 

[VolNExile]

Sick and hurt this morning..had to take the day off and take a bunch of medicine...disclaimer for any post that offend.

Hope you feel better by 9pm Eastern!

-- I get to watch on a TV tonight. Woo!

 

[Aesius]

Be careful during the next 7 hours or so fellas. Tonight's episode has leaked.