HBO's True Detective

#676
#676
Let me ask you guys something.

Did you not think the story just completely changed between the meth lab shootout and the following episode where they jumped ahead like 3 weeks or 3 months or whatever it was? That whole transition seemed so odd to me.
 
#677
#677
I hope Frank wins. I think the finale is going to be cool. I can't wait to see how he robs the exchange.
 
#678
#678
Coug said:
Let me ask you guys something.

Did you not think the story just completely changed between the meth lab shootout and the following episode where they jumped ahead like 3 weeks or 3 months or whatever it was? That whole transition seemed so odd to me.
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What do you mean by the story completely changing?
 
#680
#680
So I watched the latest episode last night, with the wife. I had only seen it once and I was distracted. I'm not sure how things are confusing after that episode (if you caught everything this episode). I thought it clarified everything, especially the conversation with Blake. Not everything is resolved, but without reading buzzfeed or anything, this is what's happened:

Caspere and corrupt cops kill jewelers during LA riots and take diamonds

Frank purposely devalued the corridor land by polluting

he sold his waste management to buy the land pennies on the dollar w/ Caspere

Frank's dude (Blake) starts working with Osip because he sees Frank is getting out

Caspere gets killed (I'm pretty sure we're going to find out it's the LA riot kids). The big twist is that his death has nothing to do with the land deal, Frank, Blake or Osip. This is probably the biggest point of confusion in the whole series.

Frank loses his land investment after he put everything into it

Frank is in trouble financially and Osip starts buying up his liens on his clubs

Velcoro gets shot by a cop at Caspere's house (cop looking for diamonds)

Velcoro and other cops snoop around diamond history, so cops are after them

Frank starts figuring everything out (except who actually killed Caspere).

Frank placated Osip, and he's going to make his move in the finale when Osip tries to make a big exchange (I'm forgetting what the exchange is all about, but it's like $12M).

And the finale is going to be awesome, IMO.
 
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#681
#681
n_huffhines said:
So I watched the latest episode last night, with the wife. I had only seen it once and I was distracted. I'm not sure how things are confusing after that episode (if you caught everything this episode). I thought it clarified everything, especially the conversation with Blake. Not everything is resolved, but without reading buzzfeed or anything, this is what's happened:

Caspere and corrupt cops kill jewelers during LA riots and take diamonds

Frank purposely devalued the corridor land by polluting

he sold his waste management to buy the land pennies on the dollar w/ Caspere

Frank's dude (Blake) starts working with Osip because he sees Frank is getting out

Caspere gets killed (I'm pretty sure we're going to find out it's the LA riot kids). The big twist is that his death has nothing to do with the land deal, Frank, Blake or Osip. This is probably the biggest point of confusion in the whole series.

Frank loses his land investment after he put everything into it

Frank is in trouble financially and Osip starts buying up his liens on his clubs

Velcoro gets shot by a cop at Caspere's house (cop looking for diamonds)

Velcoro and other cops snoop around diamond history, so cops are after them

Frank starts figuring everything out (except who actually killed Caspere).

Frank placated Osip, and he's going to make his move in the finale when Osip tries to make a big exchange (I'm forgetting what the exchange is all about, but it's like $12M).

And the finale is going to be awesome, IMO.
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Huff, I've done some reading on all this stuff that I've missed and there really is an interesting story they have tried to tell. However, the problem is that this show just wasn't done well enough for anyone to care about any of it. The whole show is based around Caspere's death but the audience doesn't give a crap who killed him.
 
#682
#682
It should have been 10 episodes. It's a little rushed....

But I appreciate what they tried to do. This ish was real. Not all points of evidence add up or connect to each other. That's what makes it confusing, but that's also what makes it a realistic detective story.
 
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#683
n_huffhines said:
It should have been 10 episodes. It's a little rushed....

But I appreciate what they tried to do. This ish was real. Not all points of evidence add up or connect to each other. That's what makes it confusing, but that's also what makes it a realistic detective story.
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Taylor Kitsch's character served no purpose. That whole storyline was a waste. It was boring and wasted valuable time in an 8 episode season.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Huff, I've done some reading on all this stuff that I've missed and there really is an interesting story they have tried to tell. However, the problem is that this show just wasn't done well enough for anyone to care about any of it. The whole show is based around Caspere's death but the audience doesn't give a crap who killed him.
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But as it turns out, it's not really been about his death. It just turns out that his death is what brings Ani, Velcoro, and Woodrugh together on what turned out to be a widespread, sprawling, tangled/f-ed up case.

I've definitely like Frank and Ray the best for this season. Ray's personal life is a wreck, but his worst self is definitely his best self. And Frank, while being a racist, gangster thug, is also a business man and a man of principle. I also wouldn't cross him because he isn't afraid to get his hands dirty.

My guess for the finale? Ray, Ani, and Frank all wind up helping one another survive.
 
#685
#685
BigZiti09 said:
Huff, I've done some reading on all this stuff that I've missed and there really is an interesting story they have tried to tell. However, the problem is that this show just wasn't done well enough for anyone to care about any of it. The whole show is based around Caspere's death but the audience doesn't give a crap who killed him.
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Spot on
 
#686
#686
n_huffhines said:
It should have been 10 episodes. It's a little rushed....

But I appreciate what they tried to do. This ish was real. Not all points of evidence add up or connect to each other. That's what makes it confusing, but that's also what makes it a realistic detective story.
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In a completely unrelated note, I now read your posts in Erlich's voice, which is cool to me.
 
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#688
Volumnus 2011 said:
In a completely unrelated note, I now read your posts in Erlich's voice, which is cool to me.
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I noticed people on VN treat others completely different based on av.

sexy girl = means nothing
vol related = nothing
aggressive guy = people are going to be trolled by you even when you are not trying
smiley guy = people will give you the benefit of the doubt a lot more
 
#689
#689
Coug said:
Did you read this thread or anything online about this season? It would have saved you some money if you had.
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Didn't specifically get it for True Detective, plenty of other stuff too.

Gonna finish season 1 starting today.
 
#691
#691
Coug said:
Let me ask you guys something.

Did you not think the story just completely changed between the meth lab shootout and the following episode where they jumped ahead like 3 weeks or 3 months or whatever it was? That whole transition seemed so odd to me.
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Just watched the haunted houses episode and yeah it is kind of odd. This show is kind of confusing if you don't watch it all at once, you feel like you missed something.

2 episodes to go! Hoping it concludes all the story lines.
 
#693
#693
Coug said:
Can you you really be into it anymore than any other audience member watching it by now? I'm not going to take a poll but I'd bet the majority of the people in this thread are enjoying it about as much as I am(which is very little). It only has 3 episodes left so I'll bore myself for another two and hope the finale is good.

Here is a funny thought that crossed my mind the other day when commenting in this thread though. What if hardly anything happens in this show in it's conclusion? If the ending sucks about as much as the rest of the season has I'm probably going to laugh because it'll be nobody else's fault but my own for sticking with it and hoping it suddenly has a great ending.
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:good!:
 
#694
#694
I enjoyed the ending. But if you didn't like the season regardless there's no way the finale would have turned it around for you.
 
#697
#697
GBO18 said:
A lot happened in the finale so I'm not sure why you are give yourself the thumbs up for? Or are you saying it sucked which you already assumed it would before you even watched it?
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Ding Ding Ding!
 
#699
#699
The finale was ok; but there was little need to add 30 minutes because all it did was make it seem like they were dragging things out rather than needing the 30 minutes.
 
#700
#700
VolsSportsFan said:
.....but there was little need to add 30 minutes because all it did was make it seem like they were dragging things out rather than needing the 30 minutes.
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Agreed. I was thinking this the first 20 minutes into the show.
 
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