Hendon Hooker is the best Tennessee quarterback since …

#152
#152
jarnol32 said:
Peyton was great, Clausen was a game manager with a below average arm that had elite talent surrounding him. Ainge, Bray and Dobbs are all better quarterbacks than Clausen.
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Ainge, Bray, and Dobbs were good QBs so no argument there. Clausen However was not a game manager imo. He threw for Nearly 10,000 yards during his career and 75 Tds.
 
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You'd be hard pressed to find a former Tennessee qb that's had a better 18gm stretch, statistically, than Hendon. He seems to have complete mastery over this offense and is in complete control when he's on the field. I'll let His Tennessee career come to an end before I see where He ranks at the position. I'll enjoy this ride in the meantime.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Yep. It was good enough. That's not the same as being great.

"Good enough" is determined by what's around the QB. Hell, Jacob Coker was good enough too. But neither of them had a team they had to carry. Their teams carried them.
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I didn’t say great, but he’s definitely underrated, and was overlooked on this thread. He was not “good enough” because of other players. He was good enough because he was good enough. That Syracuse game you reference was his first college start. He led a game winning drive on an away field and we beat a team with a Heisman candidate at qb. Tee wasn’t an accurate passer. He was imperfect, but he led that team in critical situations.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Peyton easily. Hooker is the best thrower of the football we have had since Peyton and it’s not really close.
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Grip it and rip it thrower? I’d say Bray. Natural born passer but it didn’t always go to the right guy. In that respect, I’d put HH above even Peyton. When it sails on him it usually is uncatchable. That’s an underrated component of his game.
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
Hooker balled out against Florida on the ground this year. You are underselling his scrambling skills big time.
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Dobbs was simply faster and more fluid and elusive in the open field than Hooker. Maybe this is just my perception but I feel like Hooker is a bit less agile and as a result defenders have been able to square him up for big hits a few times. He’s definitely a step slower at 4.96 in the 40 vs Dobbs’ 4.64.

I don’t mean to say he doesn’t add a ton of value as a runner, I just think Dobbs was an exceptionally good running quarterback. Hooker still has great instincts to feel and escape pressure in the pocket and he has above average straight line speed and acceleration.
 
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Rocky Top T said:
Dobbs was better, he just played for a Freaking Idiot!!!!! I heard Dobbs say he would have loved to play in this offense!!!! Hooker is good, not the runner Dobbs was. Shuler, Iceman, Dobbs, Hooker, Andy Kelly and Conredge are my favorites of all time!!! Also liked Dewey Warren and Jimmy Streeter.
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Dobbs was a better runner. That’s it. Hooker is better in every other aspect of playing QB.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Because he was a pedestrian QB who was lucky to have the defense and special teams bail him out in several big games
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Pedestrian LMFAOO

Check his stats. Smh. And he set a school record for pass completions without a pick.

You have to be joking or too young to have watched him if you think he was pedestrian.
 
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Devo182 said:
Pedestrian LMFAOO

Check his stats. Smh. And he set a school record for pass completions without a pick.

You have to be joking or too young to have watched him if you think he was pedestrian.
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I was there with him every game and yes just because Cutcliffe set up screen passes like crazy against a South Carolina team that was 1-21 in two years doesn’t mean he wasn’t pedestrian. His passing completion rate was worse than JG’s. He had defense and special teams bail him out at Syracuse, Florida, Auburn, Georgia, Arkansas, Mississippi St and Florida St.
 
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EricStratton said:
From a talent level, he’s the best since Condredge.
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I’d disagree. I think there have been guys with more pure talent whom Hooker surpasses because his mental game is so strong. He’s a good runner, but Bray, Peyton, and possibly Ainge were more gifted arm wise, and Dobbs was a better athlete. Not saying he surpasses Peyton, just that as an example.
 
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I think Dobbs could have been as good or better than Hendron with better coaching. Poor Dobbs had to do a lot of it on his own.

As for Hendon's place in the pantheon, you can make a case for Casey or Tee, but let's let the season play out. He is a legit Heisman candidate.

If he gets that, he is in the top 3 easily, and you could make a case for the greatest.

My current top 3...

1. Peyton
2. Heath
3. Tee
 
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mudhen said:
Peyton couldn't beat Florida...
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Please stop with this idiotic line of thinking. No TN QB has ever beaten UF. Football is a team sport. You think we beat UF without Stephens? Or that great defense? You think we beat UF in 98 without a great defense? No to both.

What you and some others just don’t get is you have to have more than just a QB. The whole team has to play well. But hey continue believing that Peyton never beat Florida. You look dumb.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Please stop with this idiotic line of thinking. No TN QB has ever beaten UF. Football is a team sport. You think we beat UF without Stephens? Or that great defense? You think we beat UF in 98 without a great defense? No to both.

What you and some others just don’t get is you have to have more than just a QB. The whole team has to play well. But hey continue believing that Peyton never beat Florida. You look dumb.
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It’s an idiotic take for sure.
 
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Id go with Dobbs but Hendon has the advantage of good coaching, Dobbs and those teams in general could have been so much better than what they were if they'd been coached up correctly.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Because he was a pedestrian QB who was lucky to have the defense and special teams bail him out in several big games
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You dummies might want to contemplate the notion that every topic isn’t binary. If you want to make the case that we won the NC because of everyone but the qb, enjoy. No one made the case that he’s the sole reason we won, but he has to be given some credit for going on the road in his first game, beating a ranked (McNabb led) Syracuse team on the road, beating Florida for the first time in a decade, and putting together enough good decisions to win every game that year. “But it was our defense”. You might forget that the Florida defense was top two in the country when he had to face them. In many instances, he audibled into the game changing play (Bryson run vs Fl) scramble vs Syracuse, 1 on 1 coverage on Peerless vs Fl., corner throw vs Bama, several throws into disguised D at SC. Cutcliffe used him brilliantly. A QB is a tool, not a stat line. Tee believed we could win, never quit, and didn’t lose in 98. Much of that is the D, our running game, kicking game, special teams beyond kicking, fluke plays (my screen name) and masterful coaching by Chief and Cutcliffe. Cutcliffe may have called the best season I’ve ever seen, given the tools he had. It was also Tee. He did not have the stat line outside SC, but he had latitude inside the offense to make things happen, call audibles, and run when he had an opening. I’m not a Tee worshipper. He was flawed, but he was the right guy for the job, and he was a meaningful contributor to our only NC in fifty years. I’ll take that. It goes way beyond “serviceable” or “pedestrian”. If you don’t get that, ask for help.
 
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