Heupel on players entering transfer portal

[Voltopia]

Agreed. The courts determined that the NCAA's business model of forced loyalty and forced lack of monentary compensation was restricting student athletes illegally.

It turns out, the courts were right. Given their rights, the student athletes are using them.

America. A great country.

I can't say I agree with that rhetoric, but I can agree that the major schools have steered the two majors sports toward being a professional product, and as professional sports the only rational outcome is removing them from the schools.

Which won't happen of course, because money beats everything. It wasn't always like this, but once the TV money came flowing in, the rest was mostly inevitable. Again. Easily bought, easily sold.

 

[VOLLeeann]

Interesting approach by the ASU coach, "Our guys have the opportunity to stay on our football team, and they're like, 'We'll go in (the portal) at the end,' and I go, 'No, that's not fair to you to go in after our run is over. I want you to have the best opportunity to find a spot. You can go in day one right now, we'll help you find a spot and stay on our football team if you want to stay on our football team and let's go on this ride together the rest of the way."

It's called proper negotiation. Shows brains.

 

[C-south]

A loyalty that is bought, is a loyalty that can be sold. The new world of college football - sponsored by FanDuel.

Coaches been doing it for decades….and the schools.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I can't say I agree with that rhetoric, but I can agree that the major schools have steered the two majors sports toward being a professional product, and as professional sports the only rational outcome is removing them from the schools.

Which won't happen of course, because money beats everything. It wasn't always like this, but once the TV money came flowing in, the rest was mostly inevitable. Again. Easily bought, easily sold.

Obviously the loyalty was forced because it ended almost immediately when players could transfer easily. They began to transfer very quickly.

Obviously the lack of payment was forced because players became millionaires as soon as NIL was allowed.

Of course universities have no business being involved in pro sports and should make the money leasing the name and logo (ironically) and the facilities to people who know how to manage pro franchises.

 

[utvols74]

All NIL contracts should have as part of the guaranteed money "stay bonuses" which includes playoffs and/or bowl games.

 

[Voltopia]

Obviously the loyalty was forced because it ended almost immediately when players could transfer easily. They began to transfer very quickly.

Obviously the lack of payment was forced because players became millionaires as soon as NIL was allowed.

Of course universities have no business being involved in pro sports and should make the money leasing the name and logo (ironically) and the facilities to people who know how to manage pro franchises.

Oh I know people have suggested the latter part, but I mostly laugh at it. I can't see why anyone would get excited about a pro sports team that licensed a college's brand. All the pomp about the alma mater or the school stuff would just seem silly if they made that change. No need for eligibity rules either, so you'd have a bunch of twentysomethings out there talking about whatever it is pro players talk about. Certainly wouldn't need a band anymore. More play time for Joker and the Thief! I just don't see the point.

 

[papatomany]

I wouldn't say greed. If anything player/person isn't happy with their situation, why would they stay? Everyone's situation is different. I'm not staying at a job because they're having a company luncheon.

Any player who thinks the playoffs are the equivalent to a company luncheon should find something besides football to do with his time.

 

[flyvol]

What if our first-round opponent entices one of our players with NIL money?

 

[C-south]

All NIL contracts should have as part of the guaranteed money "stay bonuses" which includes playoffs and/or bowl games.

Then they’ll go to a team without those contracts.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

It's called proper negotiation. Shows brains.

It was unexpected as most coaches opt not to play players who enter the portal.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Oh I know people have suggested the latter part, but I mostly laugh at it. I can't see why anyone would get excited about a pro sports team that licensed a college's brand. All the pomp about the alma mater or the school stuff would just seem silly if they made that change. No eligibity either, so you'd have a bunch of twentysomethings out there talking about whatever it is pro players talk about. Certainly wouldn't need a band anymore. More play time for Joker and the Thief! I just don't see the point.

Money. As long as the games get viewers, there's ads to sell. It'll take a bit of time before it fades.

With pro status the league can be a place for aging older guys too and kind of like the CFL and other leagues for guys who can't make the NFL.

I WISH the NFL would embrace it as the future minor league but I'm doubtful they see the need.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I wouldn't say greed. If anything player/person isn't happy with their situation, why would they stay? Everyone's situation is different. I'm not staying at a job because they're having a company luncheon.

Right. Because the chance to play for a natty = a company luncheon.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

All NIL contracts should have as part of the guaranteed money "stay bonuses" which includes playoffs and/or bowl games.

If they don't want to be there, personally I don't want them there. They can get lost.

 

[Voltopia]

Money. As long as the games get viewers, there's ads to sell. It'll take a bit of time before it fades.

With pro status the league can be a place for aging older guys too and kind of like the CFL and other leagues for guys who can't make the NFL.

I WISH the NFL would embrace it as the future minor league but I'm doubtful they see the need.

Okay but none of that has to do with Tennessee anymore. Cheering for the kids matriculating at a school is vastly different from cheering for pro players cashing checks for a sports exhibition. It completely changes the proposition of the product.

Not for everyone, I realize. But it will not be the same product anymore. And losing all the collegiate aspects of it would render it meangingless as a representation of Tennessee. Not to mention being the same sterile corporate paste you get from your typical pro sports franchises. Not that they aren't doing their damndest to get there faster. Oh well. Again, the TV money made it inevitable.

 

[VolBallGuy]

It’s college football finally running as an effective arm of capitalism. I’m ok with it. The way it was run before was quite frankly un-American and sold kids on loyalty over personal opportunity. Nothing wrong with loyalty but the liberty is finally being given to these kids to do as they choose. Now they can choose to be loyal rather than being forced into it.

 

[ptgrbn]

This is what money does.

NCAA and Supreme Court opened the flood gates and damaged the best season in sports forever. And yes it is about greed. Some families may be in need but not to extent of what the going ask is these days. College is expensive in case anyone has been living in a bunker and most of the more league-bound kids just use college as a minor league program anyway. All this is essentially free of charge plus their usual stipend. Now they are paid free agents on DAY ONE. Look we all want to win but need to decide when this will become unsustainable. Stepping down from my pulpit now.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

This is what money does.

My Bible doesn’t say money is bad just the love of Money….BTW.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

1st CFP ever...a night game @ the OSU, something you tell your kids then your grands, how do you not want to be in this game? I simply don't understand how you take a pass on playing. Darn crazy.

Would you stay in a relationship that you're not happy with all because they are going on a family vacation?

 

[volfan102455]

Interesting approach by the ASU coach, "Our guys have the opportunity to stay on our football team, and they're like, 'We'll go in (the portal) at the end,' and I go, 'No, that's not fair to you to go in after our run is over. I want you to have the best opportunity to find a spot. You can go in day one right now, we'll help you find a spot and stay on our football team if you want to stay on our football team and let's go on this ride together the rest of the way."

So a player goes into the portal but stays with the team and if the run is into late January? Not sure how this would correlate to the timeframe necessary for a player to enroll in a new school or the school at which they are playing to bring in new players.

 

[GordonC]

Would you stay in a relationship that you're not happy with all because they are going on a family vacation?

where dey goin?

 

[volfan102455]

Couldn't agree more. Crazy how much has changed so fast, that players don't care about the playoffs. Greed at its finest?




“Individuals are going to make a decision that they feel is right for them, their family, whatever it might be," said Heupel on Sunday while speaking with reporters after the playoff brackets were revealed. "I just know this as a competitor, [been] doing this a long time as a coach, but also in my playing experience – man, I can’t imagine not wanting and participating in what I think is one of the most unique opportunities in your playing career, but also in your life. You’ve poured a lot of work into it and this is a unique opportunity.”

https://atozsports.com/nashville/volunteers/vols-hc-josh-heupel-sends-message-tennessee-players-considering-ncaa-transfer-portal/

I agree with CJH - I don't get it at all. Tomorrow is not promised or guaranteed. Success is not promised or guaranteed. The grass is not always greener though it may seem to be. The opportunity in front of you may never come your way again.

I can somewhat understand if you are very low on the depth chart with little opportunity to ever play - but then again more than likely if that is the case, you are not upgrading but looking for a team that you can easily become 1st on the depth chart.

 

[wmcovol]

I don’t like it but coaches quit in the middle of a playoff first. Hell, Cutcliffe quit Tennessee before the NC game in ‘98.

 

[Remy]

NIL and the players portal are the best things to happen to college football in a long time. How else do you get a top ranked Bama team rolling into Vandy and taking an L? Upsets were everywhere and in every conference from the season's start to finish. Parity of the players by way of the portal is obvious and has caused better competition across the board IMO. Any youngster that is talented and can play is a sucker if he lets a coach or program talk him into sitting down losing eligibility of two or three years before he gets to play these days.

 

[freedom fighter]

Without knowing each individual, we on the outside can't question how each player came to his decision. Surely some have realized that they don't have a future paycheck waiting in the NFL, and made a logical decision to get the best start on their future from their college experience. Isn't that what college is for?

Think what even $80,000 debt-free would mean to a business startup! What a wonderful way to start your real life as a future husband and father.

But I'll insist that our churches still need to have some hard, open discussions about the differences between a blessing, a responsibility, and a temptation---and equip their people to respond to each accordingly.

The church just wants 10% cut of the money.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

It's called proper negotiation. Shows brains.

It’s probably called “I’m leaving when we lose too and I’ll let you know if there’s room for you when I get there”