House votes to decriminalize marijuana at federal level

There are a lot of reasons why cannabis reform hasn't taken place yet. almost all of them are money related. There are a lot of big money players and influencers that don't want to see cannabis reform happen. Often, when presented with an option, the public can not agree on a system. Everyone wants a piece of the pie, and the science has been held back. I can tell you it's going to happen tho, because more and more people turn to cannabis as they are exposed to it, and those people will learn they can put it down. When you can have what ever you can afford, you tend to use more responsibly. Eventually, many get tired of cannabis altogether. I happen to like it from time to time. Like when I'm sitting in a hot tub, or after a day and need to relax my muscles.
 
I was hoping you would pop in here.

An intoxicated driver causes a wreck, blows a .08, and someone dies. He’s in trouble.

A guy smoked on Friday night, caused the above wreck on a Sunday morning. If he has a good attorney is he in trouble? Cause the piss test is coming back.

Is it possible to legally prove he was under the influence at the time of the wreck? (Which in the above scenario, he was not)
Generally, yes, you could get convicted there.

A wreck with injuries is a bad fact and the hypothetical leaves room for other bad facts, so it’s a question of what a jury would believe. I don’t think that the court of criminal appeals would overturn a conviction under those facts as given.

His defense would probably lean into the common understanding of marijuana in the blood or urine and probably would want an expert to hammer that home and rebut any attempt to use THC testing to hypothesize about when the marijuana was used and provide a really really good explanation for why the wreck occurred, preferably supported by some objective evidence like video.
 
Just so everyone knows, they have cannabis breathalyzers now. The police can use them. Not sure how well they work tho.
 
Generally, yes, you could get convicted there.

A wreck with injuries is a bad fact and the hypothetical leaves room for other bad facts, so it’s a question of what a jury would believe. I don’t think that the court of criminal appeals would overturn a conviction under those facts as given.

His defense would probably lean into the common understanding of marijuana in the blood or urine and probably would want an expert to hammer that home and rebut any attempt to use THC testing to hypothesize about when the marijuana was used and provide a really really good explanation for why the wreck occurred, preferably supported by some objective evidence like video.
So he needs a good attorney for sure. Appreciate the answer. Thank you.
 
Labcorp does it routinely.

From their website:
Since the metabolites of THC stay in the body for a longer period of time than THC does, most marijuana testing detects the presence of THC-COOH or other metabolites in urine. Some tests also detect the active compound, THC, for example when marijuana testing is done using blood or saliva.

What does the test result mean?
Just as for other types of lab tests, both screening and confirmatory tests are interpreted based on a defined cutoff level (e.g., 50 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) for urine samples). If a drug is not present, or if the drug is present at a concentration below the test cutoff, the test will be reported as "undetected," "absent" or "negative." If a drug is present at a concentration equal to or above the cutoff, the test will be reported as "detected," "present", "presumptive positive" or "positive."

A positive or detected initial THC screening result means that the person tested may have used marijuana. Since screening tests are not definitive, confirmatory testing is typically done to verify the results. A positive confirmatory test means the person had THC or THC-COOH in their body when the sample was collected, but it does not confirm when THC was used or ingested.

Testing urine for THC cannot be used to determine the source of THC or its metabolites, time of exposure, amount, or the person's level of impairment.

A negative result does not necessarily mean that the person did not use marijuana. The person's THC levels may be below an established cutoff or the THC may have been already metabolized and eliminated from the body.

Detection times for marijuana vary widely depending on an individual's metabolism, the dose, and frequency of use. Testing can indicate use anywhere from 3 days to more than 30 days prior to testing. Chronic, heavy users of marijuana may test positive for even longer than 30 days after last use.

Marijuana (THC) Testing | Labcorp
 
There are a lot of reasons why cannabis reform hasn't taken place yet. almost all of them are money related. There are a lot of big money players and influencers that don't want to see cannabis reform happen. Often, when presented with an option, the public can not agree on a system. Everyone wants a piece of the pie, and the science has been held back. I can tell you it's going to happen tho, because more and more people turn to cannabis as they are exposed to it, and those people will learn they can put it down. When you can have what ever you can afford, you tend to use more responsibly. Eventually, many get tired of cannabis altogether. I happen to like it from time to time. Like when I'm sitting in a hot tub, or after a day and need to relax my muscles.
I would add that every where it has been legalized has seen a decline in quality of life
 
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You don't have to do the chemo stuff when you can get it when ever you want. IMExperience most rec users like it about mid 20's. Anything getting close to to 30% can get catatonic. Personally, I stick to the 23% range. Seems right for me.
 
You just prove time and time again, you are completely clueless on this matter

lol. I’m not clueless but I’m not a pothead either. I know of all the stupid ass strains with their stupid ass names. In the end it’s just f****ing weed and a drug to get you high. The names just add a “cool” factor to the hardcore potheads .
 
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lol. I’m not clueless but I’m not a pothead either. I know of all the stupid ass strains with their stupid ass names. In the end it’s just f****ing weed and a drug to get you high. The names just add a “cool” factor to the hardcore potheads .
Nah, the strains are actually very different, each with differing levels of various active chemical compounds. Thus, each strain has different effects, sometimes drastically different. Just facts.
 
Nah, the strains are actually very different, each with differing levels of various active chemical compounds. Thus, each strain has different effects, sometimes drastically different. Just facts.

In the end it’s just weed that’s does the same basic thing. I suppose each pothead is excited to have choices to get high on their personal level.
 
Nah, the strains are actually very different, each with differing levels of various active chemical compounds. Thus, each strain has different effects, sometimes drastically different. Just facts.
This is absolutely true, and the same goes with the numerous synthetic cannabinoids. Through my medical experience and knowledge via a family member, there are differences in effects and potency by great magnitudes. Without question, I have seen people smoke literally a couple of hits and become completely nonfunctional within minutes, totally incapable of driving a car safely.

From what I have researched, some of the more potent newer "strains" and preparations make 70s joints more akin to cigarettes. Unfortunately, that's what much of our effect knowledge is based upon. Without question, more potent drugs = higher addiction potential + higher risk for serious side effects
 
In the end it’s just weed that’s does the same basic thing. I suppose each pothead is excited to have choices to get high on their personal level.

Man, why do we have some many flavors/brands of tequila/bourbon/beer/etc? It's all just alcohol to get you drunk.
 
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This is absolutely true, and the same goes with the numerous synthetic cannabinoids. Through my medical experience and knowledge via a family member, there are differences in effects and potency by great magnitudes. Without question, I have seen people smoke literally a couple of hits and become completely nonfunctional within minutes, totally incapable of driving a car safely.

From what I have researched, some of the more potent newer "strains" and preparations make 70s joints more akin to cigarettes. Unfortunately, that's what much of our effect knowledge is based upon. Without question, more potent drugs = higher addiction potential + higher risk for serious side effects
It’s a complex drug. Of course, the two naturally occurring strains are indica and sativa which by all accounts have differing effects. By now, though, the crossbreeding has allowed for so much variety in the strains they can almost be entirely individualized for desired effect. There are over 400 chemical compounds naturally occurring in mj, 60 of which are cannabinoids. A lot of cannabinoids have opposing effects, so when someone starts screwing around with the levels of them in these strains, the effects end up being wildly different. If you find a way to remove an agonist cannabinoid, there may be another that was previously hindered that rears it’s ugly head.
 
So he needs a good attorney for sure. Appreciate the answer. Thank you.
The prosecutor should dismiss once they understand that active THC and THC-COOH aren’t the same thing and that no active THC supports the defense theory.

If the prosecutor is being shady, which sometimes happens when they have cases involving victims, then yeah you’d want somebody who can convince a jury that the prosecutor is the one who is high.

In practice, I’d be shocked if that case made it to a jury*, but just on that hypothetical it’s conceivable that he could lose.

*- also, in my experience, pure marijuana DUI cases are almost unheard of. There are almost always other drugs or alcohol involved.
 
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In the end it’s just weed that’s does the same basic thing. I suppose each pothead is excited to have choices to get high on their personal level.
Wonder if this poor bastard thinks store bought tomatoes are the same as home grown, too.
 
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lol. I’m not clueless but I’m not a pothead either. I know of all the stupid ass strains with their stupid ass names. In the end it’s just f****ing weed and a drug to get you high. The names just add a “cool” factor to the hardcore potheads .
Not entirely true. Different strains absolutely bring about different highs.

Or so I've heard...
 
Not entirely true. Different strains absolutely bring about different highs.

Or so I've heard...

About this... there are several hundred types of cannabinoids. It's not just thc.... it's thcA, thcB, thcC...cbdA, cbdB, cbdC.... so on. cbdN is the one that famously makes you sleepy. These come down to the resin sacks. small, fine crystals are usually sativa, and can amp you, or electrify you. big fat dark resin is usually indica. It usually makes you eat everything in the fridge and you wake up on the couch.

west coast legalized weed meant it all got bread together to make weed with "cool weed names". most of the modern designer weed comes from back crossed afghans from California. If you test todays designer weed, good chance it all comes out pretty similar now, but the old school is still out there that gives a real difference.
 
I'll add that in the case of gummies, I have always found a difference between the sativa and indica ones. Mostly, I think they just add cbd's to it, but I do notice the difference.
 
I'll add that in the case of gummies, I have always found a difference between the sativa and indica ones. Mostly, I think they just add cbd's to it, but I do notice the difference.
I don't think I have a very sophisticated psychic palate. Its all the same **** to me, just some hits way harder than others. and some inflames my sinuses way more.
 
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Well, I've smoked some electrifying cannabis back in the day. Hard to find now. Everybody wants that California afghan this or that. I like a skunk myself. Was raised on dj shorts blueberry in Oregon, which was an afghan back cross it's self, but it was different in that Short was looking for that "head ringer" electrifying effect in an afghan. Came up with his blueberry, which at some point wound up in canada, or canada connected. I know it's probably in Vancouver. Portland. version was the best in the 90's. Anyhoo.... it's a mood enhancer for me. You can call it "party weed" if you want, but it serves a real purpose, and I prefer a mood enhancer while I do.
 

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