How long will Martin be at UT?

#101
#101
Give him two years. If he can't cut it then UT has to move on like KY did with Gillispie.
 
#102
#102
jerryvol44 said:
I have noticed that when people on this forum are unable to refute an argument with facts, they resort to name calling and insults. Frankly that is the mark of a 3rd class intellect. Coach Fox used to say that obscenities are the result of a weak mind trying to express itself forcefully. He probably was correct.
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I agree with the Coach Fox quote, but I love the irony of the bold print above.
 
#103
#103
Weezer said:
Let's stop arguing about what should have been Pearl's fate until after the NCAA punishment is doled out. At least then we'll know the severity of his actions and better arguements can be made.
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It's been speculated that the punishment will be less harsh since we fired Pearl. So will we ever know from a reliable source what the punishments would've been had we retained Pearl? If not I don't think the arguments will end for awhile, especially if CCM turns out to be a subpar SEC coach.
 
#104
#104
jerryvol44 said:
As you say it really hard to compare the two because Mears was in a different era in basketball. Mears was a great coach no doubt about it and also a great promoter as was Pearl. Mears coined the phrase big orange country. He told me "I coined the phrase big orange country and I never got a cent for it". Mears was also recognized as one of the best sideline coaches of his era by sports media at that time, if that means anything. Still I think that the teams Pearl scheduled which put him at the top in rpi ratings every year for me gives him the nod as the best. Mears took his team into South Carolina when they were ranked #1 and beat them on their own floor with a team that was not ranked. Mears could probably do more with less talent than any coach I am aware of. For instance he took Len Kosmoski and turned him into the leading scorer in the SEC if my memory is correct. I was told that Len couldn't walk and chew chewing gum when Mears got him. Of course his best teams were durring the King (my favorite all time) and Grunfield run. I started getting season tickets Kings freshman year and never missed a home game for about 35 years.
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I would've loved to be around to see those teams in action.
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#106
Orange Bison said:
It's been speculated that the punishment will be less harsh since we fired Pearl. So will we ever know from a reliable source what the punishments would've been had we retained Pearl? If not I don't think the arguments will end for awhile, especially if CCM turns out to be a subpar SEC coach.
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We will know what punishment Bruce himself receives though. He's not off the hook because he was let go. The NCAA still has the power, and will most likely use the power, to levy a show-cause penalty on Pearl.
 
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jerryvol44 said:
No coach in UT history came close to Pearls accomplishments and while I hope Martin will change that my experience has been that UT has not been very successful in hireing BB coaches. I believe they made a big mistake in letting a proven winner go. Twenty or more wins every year of his career except two. Six straight NCAA tournaments, going 16 one year and 8 one year. Again no other coach has come close. I hope Martin does better, but the odds are very high that he will be a wash out.
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BS

If the NCAA tournament was still the same format as when Mears was coach, Pearl would have qualified for two of them.

I realize you probably care less about your credibility here. You probably should feel that way considering your posts are becoming increasingly uninformed.
 
#109
#109
jerryvol44 said:
Pearl went to the elite eight and was 1 point away from the final four. He beat Fla's national championship team both home and away. He took the team to number 1. He had far and away the best rpi rankings. Green was the only coach that even came close to Pearl and he wasn't really that close. My argument that Pearl is the most sucessful coach in UT history can not be refuted because it is truth. I can see you now in court, "your honor the prosecutions argument is just crap". I find you to be very amusing.
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Why is it you won't acknowledge Mears? Do you realize he went 15-15 against KY during some of the best years of that program's history.

You would lose your case in court. I failed to mention in my previous post that if Mears would have had the same opportunity with the NCAA tournament as Pearl(64 invites vs 16, 20-25, then 32), he would have made it virtually EVERY year of his tenure.
 
#110
#110
jjay2518 said:
I still think Mears' run was more impressive than Pearl's. If Pearl had been coaching in Mears' era, a few of his years he would have missed the NCAA tourney since it was only 32 teams then. Using Pearl's NCAA streak as an apples to apples comparison makes no sense.
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It was only 32 teams during Mears last 4 years at UT. Before that it was anywhere from 22-25 teams invited with no seeding.
 
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#113
shortgameVol said:
LOL. Yeah, I know. Exactly why I posted it. I actually started going to games during that period. Did you?
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Yes! I watched in amazement the transformation from a slow down grind it out team to the run and gun teams with King and Grunfield. Mears did a great job, with less talented teams prior to getting some top players. I still think King is the best college basketball player I've ever seen play.
 
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