How many games before Crompton becomes The Starter ?

#101
#101
This thread is ridiculous, guys. One scrimmage. One FREAKING scrimmage. Crompton has never, and I mean never, played one snap in a college game. Hell, he hasn't taken a snap in a live game in almost two years. As a previous poster also noted, his snaps reportedly game against the second and third team defense.

If anything, hopefully this will make Ainge and Cut work that much harder to fix the problems before the season opener. Two quarterbacks competing for the starting job is healthy--fan created "quarterback controversies" are not. After last season's debacle, that's one experience I wouldn't prefer to relive anytime soon.
 
#102
#102
GenNeyland9 said:
Two quarterbacks competing for the starting job is healthy--fan created "quarterback controversies" are not. After last season's debacle, that's one experience I wouldn't prefer to relive anytime soon.
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agree 100%.
 
#103
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GenNeyland9 said:
This thread is ridiculous, guys. One scrimmage. One FREAKING scrimmage. Crompton has never, and I mean never, played one snap in a college game. Hell, he hasn't taken a snap in a live game in almost two years. As a previous poster also noted, his snaps reportedly game against the second and third team defense.

If anything, hopefully this will make Ainge and Cut work that much harder to fix the problems before the season opener. Two quarterbacks competing for the starting job is healthy--fan created "quarterback controversies" are not. After last season's debacle, that's one experience I wouldn't prefer to relive anytime soon.
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Wouldn't have to think about it if Ainge earned his spot. One FREAKING scrimmage after one FREAKING 5-6 season is ONE too many. It is time to poop or get off the pot.
 
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GenNeyland9 said:
This thread is ridiculous, guys. One scrimmage. One FREAKING scrimmage. Crompton has never, and I mean never, played one snap in a college game. Hell, he hasn't taken a snap in a live game in almost two years. As a previous poster also noted, his snaps reportedly game against the second and third team defense.

If anything, hopefully this will make Ainge and Cut work that much harder to fix the problems before the season opener. Two quarterbacks competing for the starting job is healthy--fan created "quarterback controversies" are not. After last season's debacle, that's one experience I wouldn't prefer to relive anytime soon.
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Did the fans play horribly last year? Have the fans shown absolutely no grasp of the offense? Any "quarterback controversy" has been created by Ainge's ineptitude.
 
#105
#105
GenNeyland9 said:
This thread is ridiculous, guys. One scrimmage. One FREAKING scrimmage. Crompton has never, and I mean never, played one snap in a college game. Hell, he hasn't taken a snap in a live game in almost two years. As a previous poster also noted, his snaps reportedly game against the second and third team defense.

If anything, hopefully this will make Ainge and Cut work that much harder to fix the problems before the season opener. Two quarterbacks competing for the starting job is healthy--fan created "quarterback controversies" are not. After last season's debacle, that's one experience I wouldn't prefer to relive anytime soon.
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That would not be a good reason for not naming him starter. The best QB should start regardless of experience. All Ainge has to do is prove himself and there will not be a controversey. Fans do not create the controversies, players that don't take command of their roles are the ones that create them.
 
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#106
Maybe I should be more specific. That's one real scrimmage under Coach Cutcliffe, who by all accounts is a much more demanding tactician and QB mentor than his predecessor.

The wheels fell off the entire team last year, except for the defense, and even they waned as the season endured. If you want to talk history, then let's go a little further back. I'd like to remember Ainge as the true freshman that led us down the field in the last minute against Florida to beat them in Knoxville in 2004. I'd also like to remember a great performance against Georgia when we upset them between the hedges in 2004. I also thought he looked better in the Orange and White game.

I agree we should play whoever plays the best and puts points on the board, and I think that's Ainge right now. Coach Cut agrees, and I trust his evaluation of quarterbacks.

The kid's got talent. Now, finally, he has someone to discipline him and teach him how to play quarterback. It's just frustrating to have the first live action scrimmage of the year be followed up by a "How many games until Crompton is named the starter?" thread. If we start the season by losing to Cal and Florida, and then struggle mightily on offense against Marshall and Air Force, then maybe we should give Crompton a shot.
 
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GenNeyland9 said:
Maybe I should be more specific. That's one real scrimmage under Coach Cutcliffe, who by all accounts is a much more demanding tactician and QB mentor than his predecessor.

The wheels fell off the entire team last year, except for the defense, and even they waned as the season endured. If you want to talk history, then let's go a little further back. I'd like to remember Ainge as the true freshman that led us down the field in the last minute against Florida to beat them in Knoxville in 2004. I'd also like to remember a great performance against Georgia when we upset them between the hedges in 2004. I also thought he looked better in the Orange and White game.

I agree we should play whoever plays the best and puts points on the board, and I think that's Ainge right now. Coach Cut agrees, and I trust his evaluation of quarterbacks.

The kid's got talent. Now, finally, he has someone to discipline him and teach him how to play quarterback. It's just frustrating to have the first live action scrimmage of the year be followed up by a "How many games until Crompton is named the starter?" thread. If we start the season by losing to Cal and Florida, and then struggle mightily on offense against Marshall and Air Force, then maybe we should give Crompton a shot.
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It's a stretch to call 12-22 for 150 yards a "great performance." Ainge is still living off one performance against a bad Florida defense.
 
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rexvol said:
If Coach Cut is the miracle worker everyone is making him out to be, then why does Ainge appear to be regressing? All the timeouts really concern me because it says that he's rattled to the point that he cannot manage the game, it's not just that he cant make the plays, he cant even function.
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You cant heal somebody from being scared of taking a hit either you get over it or you dont. He hasnt yet.
 
#109
#109
oklavol said:
Its 3 weeks to the Cal game. Thats not a lot of time to transform Ainge. Ainge is making a lot of the mistakes he made last year. He scrimmaged better last year then he played in games. Thats very troubling.

Crompton outplayed him in this first scrimmage. There will be a couple more scrimmages before the Cal game. Crompton will be the starter against Cal if Ainge doesn't play better in the next 2 scrimmages. Fulmer has a lot riding on this season, too much to make this another Eric Ainge project year.
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Ainge is out played in every game his butt is on the line it that simple. He got out performed last season which wasnt full contact. He will again this year if he does get out performed again and they let him play coach fulmer deserves to be fired. Ainge has had 3 years more than enough time to show us something and after his shoulder injury he is scared to death. I hope this is not the case but i would much rather go 5-6 again with a freshman than a jr. qb. And look to makeing the future better than trying to heal ainge all year. "i hope ainge gets it together but he is nothing so far"
 
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#110
Big Orange Diesel said:
I think what we are seeing with Ainge is where Coach Cut broke him down. Now this is the building back up part that might be a little painful.

The best job that Cut did with a QB was Tee Martin in '98. I remember in the UGA game in the 1st qtr Tee threw an interception and Cut had a "come to Jesus talk" with him on the phone and he basically told him grow up or I'll get someone else to be QB. After that Tee started to produce.

Coach Cut just needs a little live action to work with Ainge. He might be a junior but he is as raw as Tee was.
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If you told ainge that he would cry and only throw them 10 feet over the WR heads and throw one up for grabs. Stanley might see playing time if that happens he would be the only one to be able to jump that high and catch them.
 
#111
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Lexvol said:
Wouldn't have to think about it if Ainge earned his spot. One FREAKING scrimmage after one FREAKING 5-6 season is ONE too many. It is time to poop or get off the pot.
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If our starting QB is looking like he did last year whether first scrimmage or not then we need to look at getting someone in there that can get the job done. Please quit making excuses !
 
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#112
jakez4ut said:
i don't think anyone will argue that Crompton has talent, otherwise he wouldn't be here, but by outplayed, i'm not sure where you get that from? he fumbled three snaps, lost one of them in Saturday's scrimmage. he three 2 td's and an int. sounds pretty average to me...and that's fine at this point in his development...

and your argument about the no playing time doesn't help his case. that just reinforces the fact he has no experience. he has exactly one spring as the 2 under his belt and one fall scrimmage as the 2 under his belt.

don't get me wrong, i'm not getting on JC's case or anything, i think he has a set of skills that will benefit him and UT, and eventually he will be as good as advertised, but i do think, while it is concerning that after the spring and summer workouts the first scrimmage wasn't very good, that it was the FIRST scrimmage. We shouldn't lose sight of that.

Now, after next week and the next, if there is no reasonable improvement, the coaches will have some very hard questions to answer yet again about the qb position at UT....
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J Cs first scrimmage looked better than ainges what 9 scrimmages 100 practices and how many starts?? Thats sad a red shirt freshman should not out perform a jr with multiple starts and years of practice. And crompton had 0 int. with 2 td. unlike ainge
 
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#113
thebiglowboski said:
J Cs first scrimmage looked better than ainges what 9 scrimmages 100 practices and how many starts?? Thats sad a red shirt freshman should not out perform a jr with multiple starts and years of practice. And crompton had 0 int. with 2 td. unlike ainge
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Ainge looked solid in the orange and white game while Crompton just looked ok. Also like someone else said, JC wasn't playing against the good defense like Ainge was.

Having said that, I'm for whoever will get the job done this season. If that's Crompton, then so be it.
 
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#114
Vol 4 Life said:
Good post and I point I have made myself. Ten years ago, our QBs could have been sucking it up in practice and most of us would have remained in blissful ignorance. That changed with the internet age...

I'll say this, if Ainge is as jittery as some of the VOL fans, he is a lost cause. Give Ainge another scrimmage and lets see how he looks; its a fairly accepted fact that the defense outperforms the O in the first scrimmage. Some of Ainge's mistakes are probably from trying too hard - give him a bit more time before drawing conclusions.
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another 5-6 season should be long enough than let him start again next year! Lord some of yall people on this board need to wake up he has been here 3 years not 3 days. and we are treating him like a freshman. He has been out performed every preseason he has been here. And by lesser talent even.
 
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OWB said:
Ainge looked solid in the orange and white game while Crompton just looked ok. Also like someone else said, JC wasn't playing against the good defense like Ainge was.

Having said that, I'm for whoever will get the job done this season. If that's Crompton, then so be it.
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Ainge did look good OWB but he had that green jersey on!!!
 
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thebiglowboski said:
another 5-6 season should be long enough than let him start again next year! Lord some of yall people on this board need to wake up he has been here 3 years not 3 days. and we are treating him like a freshman. He has been out performed every preseason he has been here. And by lesser talent even.
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This is the point that I was intitally trying to make. I see another sensible person shares the same sentiments. We screwed up letting Schaffer get away !
 
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#120
Mr. Rockytop said:
This is the point that I was intitally trying to make. I see another sensible person shares the same sentiments. We screwed up letting Schaffer get away !
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Letting him get away? Wow, I wish people could have such kind words for me if I took a bat to some poor schmuch.
 
#121
#121
The coaches were a little more harsh in the paper today on Ainge. He threw 2 int's, but he also had a few more dropped by the defense. He threw one out of his own endzone and it landed in Wade's chest, and Wade just dropped it. Fulmer said, "It's one thing for a DB to make a great play, that happens, but it's another thing to throw it straight to him."

Boy, I hope we get alot of practice in these next 3 weeks.
 
#122
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OWB said:
Ainge looked solid in the orange and white game while Crompton just looked ok. Also like someone else said, JC wasn't playing against the good defense like Ainge was.

Having said that, I'm for whoever will get the job done this season. If that's Crompton, then so be it.
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I might be wrong but I dont think JC was completely healthy during the O&W game.
 
#123
#123
If he wasn't healthy enough, do you really think coaches would have played him?
 
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#124
OWB said:
If he wasn't healthy enough, do you really think coaches would have played him?
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I think he was physcially ok in that game but just think about how long he had gone without being able to throw.
 
#125
#125
He was throwing just fine in the pregames towards the end of last season. I seriously doubt he was having a lot of problems in the O&W game.
 
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