Huge Recruiting News- The 28 Limit

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#52
So 27 players, counting the 2 backcounted is still a nice class plus it allows you to get a good size class for 2011. Yeah we were doing the math on our boards to trying to figure out our numbers.
 
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#54
What Hubbs posted...

Back in January Tennessee could not backcourt any one because they were are 85. The result is that the 2009 class has 23 members and since u can only bring in 25 in a class Tennessee can only backcount 2 this January so the most that they can bring in is 27 guys. 25 for this class and 2 that are back counted. Technically they could sign 30 but three would have to go juco or prep school. I hope that helps
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
That's great news... I'd like to hear some names start filling in some of those 10 spots soon. Certainly opens it back up a little for more WR's/DB's and possibly a backup QB.
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Since when do teams recruit backup qb's? Man, everyone we sign is for one reason: To start. i think they might take a project or a late bloomer or maybe get somebody to switch. Something's still out there that might happen. Who knows?
 
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Voodoomonkey said:
So, if this is true, this opens up lots of new opportunities for this class. Does this add any chance at us taking a 2nd QB in this class?
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FWIW, Mike Farrell said he didn't see us taking another QB in this class. He said we got a steal in Bray, but that there is just not much elite talent at the QB position.

I think we focus all of our efforts on a top tier guy for 2011, but you never know.
 
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EricFreakingBerry said:
Wrong class, and I really think Worley or Bridgewater are the '11 guys I want the most.
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Actually, LeMay is part of the '11 class. However, I agree with you re: Worley and Bridgewater. Bridgewater is gonna be a tough one to pull.

Kiffin & Co. are gonna go after Worley hard.
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
Actually, LeMay is part of the '11 class. However, I agree with you re: Worley and Bridgewater. Bridgewater is gonna be a tough one to pull.

Kiffin & Co. are gonna go after Worley hard.
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Yeah, I was directing the "wrong class" comment to vols5790 in that the class size limit discussion going on has nothing to do with 2011 prospects such as LeMay/Worley/Bridgewater, etc. Well, I shouldn't say it has "nothing" to do with it, because taking players this year and any attrition will have impact on the class next year obviously.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
All that means is that we can only sign 9 more rather than 10.
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No. We currently have 21 commits. If we can only sign 27 due to the 85 limit, then we only have room for 6 since we can could back 2. As Brent said, only 27 would be eligible to be enrolled to make the 85 total we can have on the team. The 30 he suggested included 3 that can't get in and would go the Prep or JUCO route.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
No. We currently have 21 commits. If we can only sign 27 due to the 85 limit, then we only have room for 6 since we can could back 2. As Brent said, only 27 would be eligible to be enrolled to make the 85 total we can have on the team. The 30 he suggested included 3 that can't get in and would go the Prep or JUCO route.
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Even though you said "No", you are agreeing with Sab. That is what he meant. We have 9 spots left. We can sign 30 players. That is the MAX we can sign. If we sign 30 players, 25 of them will be lucky to make it in imo...
 
#65
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The SEC made a new rule this year that teams can only sign 28 players in one class. If you back count players, then you can sign more according to how many you can back count and still stay within the scholarship limit of 85. We can back count 2 players according to Brent, so the total number of players we can sign comes to 30 because of the 28 plus 2 back counted.

This number is different than the number of players we can actually bring into school. That limit is 25 each year. This year, since we can back count 2 players, we can bring in 25 + 2 which would equal 27. If we sign 30, the other 3 players we sign will either have to go to JUCO, Prep School, or grayshirt.

To further clarify, the only players that can be back-counted are those that enroll early. There is no limit on the number of players that can enroll early, but only 2 can count to last year's class, and the others will count towards this year's class.
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This is the very best clarification that I've been able to find. We have 9 spots left...
 
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Lord Vader said:
Even though you said "No", you are agreeing with Sab. That is what he meant. We have 9 spots left. We can sign 30 players. That is the MAX we can sign. If we sign 30 players, 25 of them will be lucky to make it in imo...
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Brent used the 30 as an example. If we sign 30, that means that 3 can't get in because we would be over the 85 player limit per team. We can only sign 27 that would be guaranteed to get into school.
 
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EricFreakingBerry said:
Yeah, I was directing the "wrong class" comment to vols5790 in that the class size limit discussion going on has nothing to do with 2011 prospects such as LeMay/Worley/Bridgewater, etc. Well, I shouldn't say it has "nothing" to do with it, because taking players this year and any attrition will have impact on the class next year obviously.
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My bad.
 
#68
#68
The 28 TOTAL that Brent and other's have expounded on is 25+3. That means we can sign a total of 28 players each class with 3 back counting to last year's class. It's all confusing to say the least, but 27 is the most we can sign this year because of the 85 limit.
 
#69
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Make sure to read the middle sentence of what Brent said. He states how many we can sign that can make it into school.
 
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This is for LV, Eric, LV.... whoever would know.

How does the defections of all the scholarship players last year affect our room?
This year, and next. Or does it at all.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Make sure to read the middle sentence of what Brent said. He states how many we can sign that can make it into school.
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We are agreeing, you're just misunderstanding what I'm saying I think. We can only have 27 new recruits ON THE ROSTER next year at UT. We can get 30 COMMITS, and 3 of them can be placed in JUCO...
 
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BeecherVol said:
This is for LV, Eric, LV.... whoever would know.

How does the defections of all the scholarship players last year affect our room?
This year, and next. Or does it at all.
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Yes, you can ONLY have 85 players on scholarship. That's it. The defections make a scholly available for an incoming recruit...
 
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BeecherVol said:
This is for LV, Eric, LV.... whoever would know.

How does the defections of all the scholarship players last year affect our room?
This year, and next. Or does it at all.
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If we had the room, we would be able to sign more and back count them. The problem is that we are only 2 schollies short of the 85 limit. So, if you are at the 85 total then you can only sign 25 and maybe less. If you have schollies available under the 85 and you had the room from the previous class to back count, then you can back count as many as it takes to hit the 85 number as long as you don't go over the 25 total in the previous year's class.

So, for us right now here's the math.....

We have 83 Total on scholarship and we only had 23 total signed last year.

So, we can back count 2 to get to the 85, which means we can sign 27 total for this class. 25 (total number you can enroll at once) + 2 (number of players we can enroll and back count to 2009) = 27 TOTAL players we can sign for 2010 including the back counted players.
 
#74
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So basically as of right now there will only be a total of 27 scholarships availible for incoming players, including players to be backcounted towards the 2009 class.

The number of players that sign is a mute point, because you only have 27 scholarship spots availible. Remember the 28 signing rule has nothing to do with scholarship availibility.
 
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Lord Vader said:
Yes, you can ONLY have 85 players on scholarship. That's it. The defections make a scholly available for an incoming recruit...
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I knew the total was 85.

Figured we would have more open spots. How many did we lose last year? I was thinking it was several.
 
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