Hurry Up No More

#53
#53
The defense has played well this year. They basically got no breather in the first quarter and we’re hanging on the rest of the way.
 
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teeball said:
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
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Yeah, but if we played more of a “typical offense” we wouldn’t catch them confused and looking at each other and score the points. I’m not sure why you would want to intentionally NOT score points when they can? Some of our fans will literally find anything to moan and complain about 🙄
 
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teeball said:
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
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The O didn't put pressure on the D. The D's inability to get off the field and particularly on 3rd down is what puts pressure on the D. Make a couple of tackles early in the game when UT actually broke the LOS... get a punt instead of a long drive... and the O puts them down by two or 3 scores. Then the D can pretty much do whatever they want.

Part of his "genius" is forcing D's into mistakes with tempo. They outscored UK. They scored 14 more points than anyone else has against UK's D. If the D could have gotten the O the ball more... it could have looked a lot like the MU game. In fact... scoring on UK looked easier at times.
 
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keenobserver said:
We didn't come close to pressuring the QB until very late in the game.

I've been saying its our #1 need.

Byron Young is really our only one and he's still learning.
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IMHO, they just need to focus on bringing pressure and let the chips fall where they will. If they give up big plays at least the D gets off the field and the O gets the ball. Trying to play bend, don't break is leaving them on the field too long.
 
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sjt18 said:
IMHO, they just need to focus on bringing pressure and let the chips fall where they will. If they give up big plays at least the D gets off the field and the O gets the ball. Trying to play bend, don't break is leaving them on the field too long.
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I agree. That should be the strategy and I actually believe that's what they're doing. I actually believe our defensive backs have been good--great this season. People that don't understand football see the opposing team catch an intermediate route or occasional big play and they blame the DBs. Warren has actually been the best corner in man coverage imo.

The big boys (GA, AL, etc) have 5-6 legit rush guys. Prior to the season, I thought Baron, Joseph, or Harrison would have made more of an impact off the edge. We have a few inside guys working their tails off to push the pocket. We just lack the edge guys.
 
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keenobserver said:
We didn't come close to pressuring the QB until very late in the game.

I've been saying its our #1 need.

Byron Young is really our only one and he's still learning.
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Pressure because we blitzed. Kentucky doesn’t come close to 40 if we blitz often or make them think a blitz is coming.
 
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teeball said:
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
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If you can score points in bunches you always have a chance.
 
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Defense did what they were supposed to do. Got a turn over, scored some points, held the other team to less points than we scored. We aren't going to shut out many people but we don't have to. Just keep the other team under 50 and we should be able to play with most teams.
 
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Of 95% of the team's we play cannot stop the fast-paced spread,too bad for them.As Coach Spurrier said, "If you cannot stop me from scoring,that is your problem".
 
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teeball said:
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
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Yes, struggling to put 10-13 points on the board is much more fun. Might as well get use to it, CJH is absolutely married to this offense.
 
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DuckInAPen said:
We've had years of going 3 and out with a slow offense. I'll take the points whenever and however we can get them. We'll add defensive depth and talent in time.
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I think I'm all for outscoring the opponent, I'm thinking mabey thats how to win, and yes good point about our horrible defense ,except how this time they got a critical pik6 and one key 4th down stop at the end. Both side will be better next year.
 
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teeball said:
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
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Wha?? Isn't that the whole point?
 
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RockyTop140 said:
We couldn’t stop Kentucky even when we were fresh at the start of the game coming off a bye week. The hurry up offense would certainly skew the game in the other teams favor some, but not if we could actually stop them on 3rd down. It was so one sided tonight because our defense just sucked the whole game
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Please explain how a 45-42 victory is one-sided in any capacity?!
 
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#69
volinvegas said:
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Please explain how a 45-42 victory is one-sided in any capacity?!
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I’m talking about time of possession. They had the ball for 46 minutes of the game. I see i wasn’t really clear in my post that that’s what I was referring to
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
we will win seven games this year and we will recruit a very good class this Winter. May even pick up a couple of defensive players from the portal. We will be better next year and in 2--3 years we will be playing with the big boys. I can feel it in my old bones.
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Its gonna be a recruiting wetdream, kinda like "your gonna score, and your gonna score, your getting a pick, and you too, you know we can score with scraps so imagine having great players like you to score more!!" Just saying, were the next big thing...
 
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sgtwebb1 said:
All they need is more depth and quality on D, via the portal and recruiting.
UT has 71 players, if they had enough defenders to be able to sub efficiently, they wouldn't be so gassed and giving up so many 3rd downs.
Fix that, get a few more stops, and this team turns into something feared.
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UT has more than 71 players. This has been debunked so many times. Also they only play about 45 players a game. To play over 70 players you would be playing the 4th stringers. In fact I think you can only carry 70 players on road games. We just need more quality players though we are rated 19th based on talent.
 
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teeball said:
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
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Your name is Teeball, his name is Coach Heupel. You stick with Teeball and let him stick to coaching.
 
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teeball said:
I do enjoy seeing Tennessee’s offense move the ball and score points. It’s been way too long since we’ve had such a prolific offense. But I’m quickly souring on the hurry up offense because as we all know, it puts too much pressure on the defense. No defense can hold up if they have to play 45+ minutes every game. I’m thinking if Coach Huepel is such an offensive genius he should not have to rely on a gimmicky offense to score points. If Tennessee played a more typical offense using a reasonable amount of play clock the defense might be more rested and have a chance to stop somebody. Having to rely on outscoring your opponent game after game is fools errand IMO. GBO!
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have you “seen” Tennessee’s slow game this season?

In my opinion that is the only reason Mississippi beat Tennessee…….they forced Tennessee to play at a different pace much of the game (on O).

To me it “looked” like Tennessee tried to work on their slow game in the Missouri and SC games…….and it didn’t go over too well, nor did it improve.

Right now, with the the talent and depth they have………it seems they simply have to play “their” normal style to make it work.

I’m sure Heupel would “love” to be able to slow things down at times……..however it appears he knows……it’s simply not there yet.

with more time, more bodies, more talent and more development…….I’m confident Heupel can get the O to be at least “competent” running at a somewhat slower pace when needed……….it just ain’t right now.
 
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