I’m OK with a raise for Heupel based on team rank

#77
#77
Hell Auburn just hired Freeze. What's his Contract worth ? He certainly hasn't done anything Heupel hasn't acconplished. Actually Heupel has an 11 win season and an Orange Bowl trophy.... 👀🎤
 
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In 2017 Butch made over 4.1 million.

However some folks believe 4.5 is just fine 6 years later after beating LSU, Florida, Bama & Clemson in the same year and winning 11 games for the first time in over 2 decades?

This program banks near the 100 million mark……..yet 4.5 is all we should pay the coach who got Tennessee over the hump…….WOW!!!
 
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#79
Should we do a GoFundMe me for Coach Heupel and his family? I got five dollars burning a hole in my shorts.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
Never in the history of the internet has there been a more nonsensical comment than to say all those other coaches had signs they weren't it. Did you even read what coaches I listed? Do you know who they are? Everyone on this forum and everywhere else wanted Frost until he bombed at his alma mater; practically everyone on this forum wanted Campbell the last time we had an opening, and if I recall correctly, we even pursued him - because at the time his Cyclones were playing very well, having lost only one more game that year than we won this year and having played in the Fiesta Bowl. Fuentes played in the ACC championship his first year at Virginia Tech, and many, many people here wanted him when we hired Pruitt. So to say there were signs all along about any of those guys, much less all of them, is simply dishonest, uninformed, or both.
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Don’t be a jerk (I had another word typed that rhymes with lick but I figured the mods would kill that). It’s not hard to talk without being that way. I was talking about our former coaches who were given premature extensions, not the coaches you listed. I do agree colleges tend to give too much too soon (Mel Tucker) but I’m a big believer in Heupel. It’s not just the great record this year. He made adjustments, like putting in an under center package for short yardage, and his teams are just fun to watch. Is he as good as Brian Kelly? I have no idea but I’d rather pay him and keep him here to find out than to not pony up, he gets poached and goes somewhere else where he shows he’s better.
 
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NCFisher said:
Why assume he's talking about the coaches you listed, rather than those you alluded to - those TN actually hired, and raised/extended prematurely?
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An amazingly accurate saying exists about assumptions.
 
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Don’t look now, but South Carolina just gave Beamer a $4 million raise. We are getting left in the dust and it is not a good look for our athletic department at all.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
You might be missing a minor detail in that comparison. Saban already had a NC under his belt; Heupel does not. If you can't grasp the vast difference that makes, you could be the one in the wrong discussion.
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A distinction without a significant difference, IMO. That NC made Nick more valuable to Bama (or anyone else that might have pursued him) and they were willing to pay that value. I'm not advocating we match what Bama paid NIck to move from the Dolphins to the Tide, or what Nick is paid today. I'm not suggesting we pay Heup what a national championship this year would have earned him. I'm advocating that we pay the true market value of what Heupel is to us, whatever that might be, and then maybe a little more for our appreciation. The lesson is the same no matter how you cut it: If you want to play at the top of the mountain, you have to pay for it.
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
A distinction without a significant difference, IMO. That NC made Nick more valuable to Bama (or anyone else that might have pursued him) and they were willing to pay that value. I'm not advocating we match what Bama paid NIck to move from the Dolphins to the Tide, or what Nick is paid today. I'm not suggesting we pay Heup what a national championship this year would have earned him. I'm advocating that we pay the true market value of what Heupel is to us, whatever that might be, and then maybe a little more for our appreciation. The lesson is the same no matter how you cut it: If you want to play at the top of the mountain, you have to pay for it.
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The point is that we don't know yet what Heupel is to us. Early returns appear to say he's a winner; but early returns have been deceiving before, more than once, hence my examples in my previous post.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
The point is that we don't know yet what Heupel is to us. Early returns appear to say he's a winner; but early returns have been deceiving before, more than once, hence my examples in my previous post.
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Yes we do.

Anyone who has followed football and understands basic scheming and play calling can see this guy is top shelf.

You don’t take the players we had and fill the gaps in with transfers and left overs and just win an orange bowl. Every game you can see player development.
 
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EricStratton said:
He makes an appropriate amount for an Orange Bowl team.

If he can make improvements next year then follow that with a championship caliber team we can discuss the matter.
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Yeah, you’ve apparently been sleeping through the coaching salary escalation that had happened the last 10 years or so. 20 years ago your method works. In today’s instant gratification society some coaches are fired in 2 years or less so you can’t wait 4+ years to give a coach a raise. When he was hired there’s not a person on here that thought Heupel would win 11 games in year 2 and already own wins over Bama, Clemson, Florida, and LSU. He’s finishing with a top 10 team so let’s pay him a top 10 salary and hope he can sustain it.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
What about Lincoln Riley, Saban, Smarr, Dykes, Day and all the other NY6 bowl coaches. I would venture to say outside Dykes he is the lowest paid by a lot
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Every one of those other coaches listed above has been in the playoff; all but Dykes have been more than once. If you can’t see the difference between making the playoff and not making it, you’re not thinking clearly.
 
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#96
As long as CJH is happy IDGAF what they pay, I dont want him to leave. The team is fun, they score and they create chaos defensively. That puts asses inseats and makes Neyland a nightmare
 
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