I am worried re: QB's

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PowerT83 said:
Worley ran good with the ball last year, he just didn't do it enough. His inability to run is one thing I get tired of hearing and reading about.

I remember reading Worley came from a spead offense in HS but figured since he was a Chaney recruit that he didn't really fit with what Butch was doing.

I watched Cincy when they had Zach Collaros and Munchie Legaux they both put up big numbers and I don't think either is as good as Worley.
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In hs Worley ran a spread pass offense not the read option.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Not overnight - I remember Crompton struggling mightily vs UCLA then Auburn.

Georgia game was in October - 10 months after Kiffin arrived.
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His turnaround that started in the '09 UGA game also coincided with his 2 best WRs, Gerald Jones and Denarious Moore, being healthy again.
 
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Quarterbacks make great team leaders because of the skill sets they possess. When QBs do not possess great skills, it makes it difficult for the rest of the players to follow a suspect leader.
 
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Some of our posters are drawing WAY WAY too many conclusions from little or no information. Having said that, I will cry if we have to watch a season of absolute stud receivers catching bounce passes.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
Some of our posters are drawing WAY WAY too many conclusions from little or no information. Having said that, I will cry if we have to watch a season of absolute stud receivers catching bounce passes.
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No, you're not getting it.

Dude.

We have videos that are 10:00 long. I don't care if practice is 2 hours long.

We have snippets of video evidence that show that the situation is dire.

SDS just said we're going 4-8.

Worley can't complete a pass.

Dobbs has no eyebrows.

Dude.

Seriously.

We've all seen the practice clips and we've all played NCAA 2013 enough to know this team is bad.
 
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TucsonVol said:
Quarterbacks make great team leaders because of the skill sets they possess. When QBs do not possess great skills, it makes it difficult for the rest of the players to follow a suspect leader.
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Quarterbacks need great skills around them to be great. They only need to avoid mistakes to lead a talented group of players.
 
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I've posted this a couple places but no QB is someone you trust 100%. Even the great ones. There are a lot of average QB'S in CFB. Our situation is not that unique really. Remember when Simms was our starter? You know the one that now plays with an NFL team. We simply need a game manager and we will be ok. IMO that will more than likely be Worley. That said there is a high probability we will have to play 2 QB'S this year. So we want as many QB'S as possible ready to MANAGE this offense. They'll have lots of weapons to lean on. Last year WR play hampered QB play a good bit.
 
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You Chicken Littles amaze me. Do you think CBJ is going to praise his QB at this point? Do you think that Worley has not improved just a little bit over last year? Do you think he has more weapons than last year? Is the running game potentially much better with Hurd this year?

Before Worley was hurt he was improving enough to almost beat GA and win the SC game? Maybe he has regressed since last year, but I doubt it. Maybe the WRs, TEs and RBs are worse than last year, but I doubt it. Maybe the OL is worse than last year, that's possible. Does Worley meet the high standards of what CBJ expects from his QB? Absolutely not. So what we hear from Butch is relative to his high standards and him motivating the QBs to get closer to those standards. We are probably a 6 or 7 win team this year. That's it. I hope I am pleasantly surprised, but I am not going to burn mattresses or jump off bridges based on training camp coach speak and media hype.

Carry on Chicken Littles----carry on.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
For all of you, dammit, make Worley the quarterback guys, maybe this is why!
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Anyone still wonder why Spurrier never even gave him an offer? Instead, SOS decided to offer a low 3 star kid with no other D1 scholarship offers at the time. That kid's name was Connor Shaw.
 
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sjt18 said:
I imagine the coaches liked RF's arm. I doubt they were counting on him to start. It is likely they knew EXACTLY the kind of attitude they were working with from the start...

As far as "not much" goes... there are lots of guys who were no better than these guys who succeeded in the SEC and at UT. Clausen obviously never had NFL caliber talent... he got the ball to playmakers and had some success at UT. Wuerffel won the Heisman with less ability than any of UT's top 4. Connor Shaw was never a "great" passer but was a gamer who led his team.


Many of you guys got mad at me for doubting the coaches "too soon".... well, how about giving those same coaches and these players a chance before declaring them failures?
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Best post on this thread , it sums up the situation as I see it. Can't believe the ups and downs on VN . VN definitely inconsistent. It is only the 7th practice coming up, folks, lighten up or you'll never make it to the season opener. Remember, we still have two a days to go, drink lots of fluids !!
 
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jarnol32 said:
Peterman has more talent than Dobbs, better arm strength better size and better running ability. I'd like to see him get another shot if Worley can't get it done. Peterman got threw to the wolves in the swamp. Dobbs played the last half of the season and proved he was a below average sec qb. That being said I think Worley starts and finishes the season as starter as long as he doesn't get hurt.
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Couldn't agree more. I've been saying all along that Peterman lot better than he's show...hurt early in Fl game didn't tell coaches didn't want to come out. :fool:

Bad Decision. If he gets another chance he might be the man for the rest of the season:rock:
 
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Voltrapnbama said:
Yeah because just dropping a QB back that's not great with a new OL is much better. He has to mix it up. Tight end play will help the QBS more than anything. But the run game will have to be decent or it wouldn't matter. That's been the problem, linebackers didn't have to cover inside the hashes because of no threat of the TE. No run game means the safetys will cheat over and the CB will cheat up. That's a losing formula. JMO
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Ok so I will follow your snarky response with one of my own. Anyone who has played a game of Madden on Xbox (or Tecmo Bowl for that matter) knows you have to have some sort of run game. I never said anything about drop back passing. Short quick passes to our playmakers in space would be a good start if the QBs are struggling as the reports suggest. How much help do you really believe we will get out of Downs and our freshmen tight ends?
 
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TucsonVol said:
Maybe it is not the QBs, but the coaching they receive?????
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or maybe it is still the first full week of Fall Camp .. We have two more weeks .

When that day comes and we are at Game Week with no telling signs of a QB who has stepped up, then you may blame coaching.
 
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TucsonVol said:
When the coach says he is being "Brutally honest", I really begin to worry.
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Wolfeman_Vol said:
I, personally, think Worley is the type of QB that needs his coach to show confidence in him so that he doesn't second guess himself. He can, in fact, make any throw we need him to make but it always seems like he's slightly off on his timing..could be from the "am I making the right read?" Doubt rolling around in his head, could be that (as in the first or second practice video you can clearly hear Bajakian and Azzani telling receivers where the reception window is) he's being told to throw to spots and the receiver isn't there. He could just suck (I don't think this is true). To me, it seems like a confidence issue. Second guessing leading to bad throws and bad timing. A lot could be on the receivers too (even in practice) by not being where they should be. One way or the other, we shall see.
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What you're saying in a nice way is that he's a head case. Let's just field the QB without the psychological drag.
 
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Rooster1 said:
Anyone still wonder why Spurrier never even gave him an offer? Instead, SOS decided to offer a low 3 star kid with no other D1 scholarship offers at the time. That kid's name was Connor Shaw.
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Cool story ......except Worley was class of 2011 and Connor was class of 2010, and Connor had a few other D1 offers
 
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TucsonVol said:
Like it or not, the coaches were counting on Riley Ferguson to start. We will not have a decent quarterback until some of our new quarterback recruits show up. The coaches will have to do the best they can with what they have which is not much.
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The myth of Ferguson the Wonderful grows.
 
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1SmokinVol said:
Last year Worley was just efficient enough to get a win vs uSce, he SHOULD be better this year with all the work, Right? I am concerned more about QB than any other position. We cannot under and overthrow these receivers like we did last year... HOPING, FINGERS CROSSED it's just early practice sessions but even when I watch the film and no one is covering the receivers we (Dobbs also) over/underthrow.. HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU ?????? I will hang up and listen.
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All QB's are further along this year after practice #6 than they were last year after practice #6. Go back and look at the tape. It's INSANE how stuff blows up around here and our fan base in general.:ermm:
 
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