I hate Mike Hamilton

[iluvsmesumdooley]

Nope.

 

[ajvol01]

Nope.

Sweet username

 

[VolsRule]

If you think Fulmer would have done worse than 23-28 (combined records under Dooley and Kiffin), and if you think the roster would have been worse if Fulmer were still here, then I don't know what to tell you.

fulmer stopped recruiting his last couple of years--it was time for him to go. but, hamliton made a terrible hire with kiffin, who can't coach.

 

[JimVol]

Pee Wee Herman > Dooley

Watch CDD become a successful NFL HC...lol... Volnation would be like....why did we fired CDD?????

 

[Backwards K]

You do remember Fulmer only won 5 games in 2 of his last 4 years ?

You do remember Fulmer went to 3 SEC Championship Games in his last 8 years.

And for the guy who said Fulmer depleted the roster. Great job of revisionists history. Kiffin ran off a bunch of players when he got here and then signed the worst class in UT history to replace all of the linemen he ran off.

Fulmer had a top 5 recruiting class committed including Taj Boyd when he was fired.

 

[Gramps]

You do remember Fulmer went to 3 SEC Championship Games in his last 8 years..

You do remember him losing the SEC Championship Game, not once, not twice but thrice in his last eight years.?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Can we burn a mattress of him in effigy every October 16th along Peyton Manning Pass?

I know the general feeling is that he's gone and should be forgotten, I'm EVH's side. I'd like to kick him in the nuts.

 

[KBVol]

I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't blame Dooley. He is what he is. 17-20 at La Tech coming off a 4 -8 season when Hammy hired him.

4-8 at LA TECH for crying out loud! What in the world was he smoking?

Blame lies with Hamilton IMO

How about this? Blame Hamilton for hiring Dooley. Blame Dooley for then running the program into the ground.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Sure anything but admitting the truth that it all went into a tailspin when Phil got canned mid season. Lets carry that nugget to the grave.

 

[GreveHaller]

You do remember him losing the SEC Championship Game, not once, not twice but thrice in his last eight years.?

Are you really trying to bash him because he went to the SECCG three times......and lost??? Seriously?

This could be your lamest attempt and trying to bash Fulmer. :crazy:

 

[RoanokeVol]

dave hart's not any better

I have never understood the hate for Dave Hart. What has he done wrong? He got us a football coach that we all seem to love and has brought a great deal of excitement. He is having to clean up Hamilton's mess which is horrible. Kiffin, Dooley, Todd Raleigh, Dave Serrano, firing Fulmer(which I still don't 100% disagree with). Just like Fulmer's later years, Kiffin's bolting and Dooley's incompetence, Dave Hart is having to clean up the administrative mess he was left with and I think he is doing a great job so far. I expect even better things in the future.

 

[93TNVol]

I was just thinking about how all of our problems would go away if we put Mike Hamilton's face on a mattress and burned it.

I suggested we publicly hang him in the game thread yesterday. Sell tickets to recoup some of the money he has cost the university.

Ok, I know the hanging is a bit extreme, but I would gladly pay $500 to throw rotten eggs, tomatoes, or feces at him.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I know I'm in the minority, but I really don't blame Dooley. He is what he is. 17-20 at La Tech coming off a 4 -8 season when Hammy hired him.

4-8 at LA TECH for crying out loud! What in the world was he smoking?

Blame lies with Hamilton IMO

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I agree 100%... hilarious screenname. LOL. Do you beat him fatty? Saddlebags...

 

[508mikey]

If Fulmer doesnt hire Clawson -- he would still be at UT

 

[RDU VOL#14]

If Fulmer doesnt hire Clawson -- he would still be at UT

If Phil hires Lloyd Carr's OC from Michigan we get Ryan Mallett as well and then who knows what happens. Amazing the hires our HC's have made that have gotten them fired. Clawson and Sunseri.

 

[VegasVol]

Fulmer wasn't fired for one or two seasons. He was fired for letting this program steadily decline over a 10 period. We steadily slid to the point we are today. You better believe it was the right call. No drugs needed to come to that conclusion.

During that "steady decline" 10 year period, we made it into the top-20 every single season at some point, made it to Atlanta once every 3 years, and were nationally relevant every year. Since his firing, we haven't been ranked in the top 20 a single time, have lost 6 or more games every single year, and are not even a national afterthought much anymore. No drugs needed to see the only real decline was the decline since his firing.

 

[114VOL]

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Outside of this forum and community the rest of the nation understands the reality of what happened.....it was stupid, it lacked any class of how to treat him, and we have paid dearly for it.......

You're misinformed, but then I already knew that to be a fact.

Fulmer was asked to retire. He refused. He was asked to resign. He refused. Fulmer made the powers fire him. It wasn't Hamilton's unilateral decision to do it.

Fulmer also wanted the press conference with Vicky in tow. They gave him what he wanted PLUS $6,000,000

Every big time program has gone through down times. Just because we have struggled since doesn't mean it was a bad decision.

Fulmer did a great job here for about 5-6 years and then it started sliding to mediocrity and there was never any sign he was rebuilding back to a national power. Sorry, the 2007 season isn't real evidence.

Make no mistake. This slide were at the bottom of started in 2002 whether YOU want to acknowledge it or not.

 

[Eddie Vol Halen]

During that "steady decline" 10 year period, we made it into the top-20 every single season at some point, made it to Atlanta once every 3 years, and were nationally relevant every year. Since his firing, we haven't been ranked in the top 20 a single time, have lost 6 or more games every single year, and are not even a national afterthought much anymore. No drugs needed to see the only real decline was the decline since his firing.

Couldn't be more true.

What gets old on Volnation now is what I call the "Sullins Brothers argument".

Guess what - the Sullins Brothers played bigger and badder than our current 5* o-line. I don't necessarily blame them (the 5* o-line); the discontinuity of the Kiffin / Dooley years has been apocalyptic for the program and player development. Hambone, Kiffin, and Dooley are the sole sources of our meteoric decline.

It gets so old saying we were in "steady decline" when, actually, the SEC East has never been more winable than the years since 2008 and Tebow's graduation, and we were still competing for the SECC every three years.

It as if a lot of people haven't noticed we have gotten progressively worse since Fulmer and the Sullin Brothers. SMDH.

I've had people who hate Fulmer on this site tell me years ago that Tajh Boyd was no QB because he didn't start at Clemson as a freshman. That's where we are.

I really want to see what Butch and co do this weekend. Huge game.

 

[114VOL]

During that "steady decline" 10 year period, we made it into the top-20 every single season at some point, made it to Atlanta once every 3 years, and were nationally relevant every year. Since his firing, we haven't been ranked in the top 20 a single time, have lost 6 or more games every single year, and are not even a national afterthought much anymore. No drugs needed to see the only real decline was the decline since his firing.

I suppose you and I define national relevance differently. I define it as being a national championship contender, which we haven't sniffed since 2001. Oh yeah, there were a couple of preseasons where we were ranked top 5 because of our talent, but then the "perfect storm" would strike!

I would love to go 8-4 THIS year but I wouldn't be satisfied with it for years and years and that's about as good as we were ever going to be again with Fulmer at the helm.

He's a great guy and I respect him for his time here, but enough is enough about him. The fact that no one of any significance wanted him as their HC speaks volumes

 

[114VOL]

Couldn't be more true.

What gets old on Volnation now is what I call the "Sullins Brothers argument".

Guess what - the Sullins Brothers played bigger and badder than our current 5* o-line. I don't necessarily blame them (the 5* o-line); the discontinuity of the Kiffin / Dooley years has been apocalyptic for the program and player development. Hambone, Kiffin, and Dooley are the sole sources of our meteoric decline.

It gets so old saying we were in "steady decline" when, actually, the SEC East has never been more winable than the years since 2008 and Tebow's graduation, and we were still competing for the SECC every three years.

It as if a lot of people haven't noticed we have gotten progressively worse since Fulmer and the Sullin Brothers. SMDH.

I've had people who hate Fulmer on this site tell me years ago that Tajh Boyd was no QB because he didn't start at Clemson as a freshman. That's where we are.

I really want to see what Butch and co do this weekend. Huge game.

So not wanting Fulmer as coach anymore = hating him?

Ignorance beyond belief!

 

[114VOL]

Couldn't be more true.

What gets old on Volnation now is what I call the "Sullins Brothers argument".

Guess what - the Sullins Brothers played bigger and badder than our current 5* o-line. I don't necessarily blame them (the 5* o-line); the discontinuity of the Kiffin / Dooley years has been apocalyptic for the program and player development. Hambone, Kiffin, and Dooley are the sole sources of our meteoric decline.

It gets so old saying we were in "steady decline" when, actually, the SEC East has never been more winable than the years since 2008 and Tebow's graduation, and we were still competing for the SECC every three years.

It as if a lot of people haven't noticed we have gotten progressively worse since Fulmer and the Sullin Brothers. SMDH.

I've had people who hate Fulmer on this site tell me years ago that Tajh Boyd was no QB because he didn't start at Clemson as a freshman. That's where we are.

I really want to see what Butch and co do this weekend. Huge game.

Then you need to STFU about Fulmer

 

[JCP201]

I suppose you and I define national relevance differently. I define it as being a national championship contender, which we haven't sniffed since 2001. Oh yeah, there were a couple of preseasons where we were ranked top 5 because of our talent, but then the "perfect storm" would strike!

I would love to go 8-4 THIS year but I wouldn't be satisfied with it for years and years and that's about as good as we were ever going to be again with Fulmer at the helm.

He's a great guy and I respect him for his time here, but enough is enough about him. The fact that no one of any significance wanted him as their HC speaks volumes

You don't know what would have happened with Fulmer. Clemson seems to be doing fine with Tahj Boyd as quarterback. We would have had Chavis, and I'm sure he would have found a good Offensive coordinator. We do know what happened without him. I have also seen from many acquaintances that the ones screaming "fire Phil" are not that interested in buying season tickets or supporting the team anymore. (bandwagon fans) The attendance is down since when Phil coached.

I am supporting Butch Jones, but I am and always have been sickened by the way Fulmer was treated by Hammy and the so called fans/boosters of this university who decided what was best for who I feel was the majority who had no vote in the decision. Those think it's proof he was horrible because nobody hired him--well, we don't know that either. The man loved the VOLS and I just can't see his heart anywhere else. Maybe others feel the same when they consider him.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

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You're misinformed, but then I already knew that to be a fact..

I'm not misinformed, that he was asked to resign doesn't change the fact WHEN he was asked.....

That we had the entire staff decimated, and lost a lot of recruits and have gone through pitiful coaches since wasn't an accident either......and I very much do know that Hamilton was a yes man, of course it wasn't unilateral, the man didn't have enough backbone for that....and those that guided him, the people with more money that common sense. He was a Weak AD, who couldn't be where the buck stops and make sound decisions on the future......the thread is about Hamilton after all....and he stunk at this job. If Dickey had been here we wouldn't have been in this mess.

Don't mistake someone not agreeing with the same immorality, lack of ethics, and general incompetence as not being informed.

In any case what's done is done, and I think Butch is at least the right personality, and work ethic we have needed, I still have doubts about both the AD, and those that think they own this place. Hopefully they've learned how badly they can screw things up.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Then you need to STFU about Fulmer

As long as people like you keep twisting the truth.....that ain't gonna happen.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

I have never understood the hate for Dave Hart. What has he done wrong? He got us a football coach that we all seem to love and has brought a great deal of excitement. He is having to clean up Hamilton's mess which is horrible. Kiffin, Dooley, Todd Raleigh, Dave Serrano, firing Fulmer(which I still don't 100% disagree with). Just like Fulmer's later years, Kiffin's bolting and Dooley's incompetence, Dave Hart is having to clean up the administrative mess he was left with and I think he is doing a great job so far. I expect even better things in the future.

To be honest he seems to be doing a decent job. I think the reason people don't trust him, is understanding how he got here, the people who brought him in, and their previous BS, and the fact he wore Crimson. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.....