I would like to thank the Supreme Court, the NCAA, the universities, and players and their parents for ruining college football

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#126
Go cry to someone else. You mad bc gators suck and qb just opted out of his letter of intent. Guaranteed this post wouldn’t exist if gators were top10. You will find no sympathy here. We’ve been in the dumps for 20 years until this past year. And you crying about NIL?
 
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lawgator1 said:
More like:

Donor and player agree on NIL amount.

Donor from other school offers more just before signing, or just before portal opens. Player jumps ship.

NIL ruins college football.
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Why’s that a problem? If a firm made an attorney a better offer should they be forced to decline?
 
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Vol8188 said:
The compensation isn’t coming from the school. It’s from the fans and businesses that support the athletes
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The guy I was replying to was suggesting a "standard amount" for each player as a stipend. There's no way to establish "you can have this much NIL as a player and no more" legally. In this country you can't tell someone..... This is all you can earn when you're in college. Period.

The Supreme Court just told the NCAA they couldn't limit "educational compensation" (computers, trips to study abroad, etc) for athletes. In that judgement they more than hinted the NCAA and schools couldn't continue making millions from these athletes and claim they're not employees and not compensate them at "market value."
 
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lawgator1 said:
There will be no such thing as loyalty to a program, school, or coach. The best players will force universities into bidding wars. A QB that wins the Heisman as a junior? He'll put himself on the free agency list for the portal the day after the bowls are done. Gone will be the days of sitting in the stands and watching a player progress over 2 to 4 years, maybe 5.

I'm not naive, I know it happened before on a lesser scale when it was not legal to make offers like we see now. But the scope of it now, and the fact that its going to just get worse....

There is no solution. NIL cannot be capped. I don't know, maybe student athletes never really did have much loyalty or allegiance and we romanticized it off the strength of the very few that seemed to embrace it, Peyton Manning, Tim Tebow. But now school fan bases are going to needle each other about how they stole this player or that player.

Time to realize that it was really just all about the show in years past? TV rights, pageantry, fight songs. The whole thing is just so depressing.
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You're finding depression in a season where we unexpectedly ended a horrendous losing streak against the dullards of Bama? If the NIL allows us to get more wins quicker than we would have gotten otherwise, then pour on more NIL!!!!
 
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YankeeVol said:
Crocs and gators are far different.

Alligators will see you later.

Crocodiles will see you in awhile.
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This is the best post in the entire thread. Possibly the best post in the history of gator involvement in vn.com.

It has biology, it has poetry, it has history.

It is, quite simply, the perfect post about gators. And crocs.

Go Vols!
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
This is the best post in the entire thread. Possibly the best post in the history of gator involvement in vn.com.

It has biology, it has poetry, it has history.

It is, quite simply, the perfect post about gators. And crocs.

Go Vols!
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Thanks haha. Just doing my part :p
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The NFL has no cap on NIL. Brady makes good money on endorsements and Gronk never even touched his NFL salary and just lived off his endorsements.

NIL is endorsement money. It can't be capped.
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NIL in the pros is real endorsement money. NIL in college for the most part is pretend - endorsement money. You don't really have to make or do any endorsement. An offensive lineman at Texas A and M getting $100,000 annually is not on Coke or Allstate commercials.
 
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thehardknoxlife said:
NIL money doesn't come from the University.

I grew up a Vol fan because I could hear the TDs before the broadcast, not because X player lines up. I can assure you one thing, they will continue to line up and play. It doesn't matter if they are getting paid millions or if they are there for their heart. They're still going to be there with a full team and I will still be able to hear a score before the TV broadcasts it. They will continue to be good at times and bad sometimes. Nothing really changes.

Anyone that lives in a state with no state tax should not be complaining about the NIL, ahem Florida, cough cough. This is just beginning. If it stays like it is now, those will be the states with the best players.
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If you can hear the tds before they broadcast it - you have had a hard knox life.
 
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Deal with it. They have a right to play wherever they want and if they are getting paid then more power to them.

I wish I could have played college football and made some bank too.

Besides, if they don't want to be here then I don't want them here either.

Go Vols!
 
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Fullfillmer said:
NIL in the pros is real endorsement money. NIL in college for the most part is pretend - endorsement money. You don't really have to make or do any endorsement. An offensive lineman at Texas A and M getting $100,000 annually is not on Coke or Allstate commercials.
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I'll agree that's how it's working but who is going to prove that or enforce any kind of penalty?

Is UT going to go after Spyre? No. Nor is any school going to go after Spyre because they're all playing the same game and we'll go after them and both will lose in the end.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There will be no such thing as loyalty to a program, school, or coach. The best players will force universities into bidding wars. A QB that wins the Heisman as a junior? He'll put himself on the free agency list for the portal the day after the bowls are done. Gone will be the days of sitting in the stands and watching a player progress over 2 to 4 years, maybe 5.

I'm not naive, I know it happened before on a lesser scale when it was not legal to make offers like we see now. But the scope of it now, and the fact that its going to just get worse....

There is no solution. NIL cannot be capped. I don't know, maybe student athletes never really did have much loyalty or allegiance and we romanticized it off the strength of the very few that seemed to embrace it, Peyton Manning, Tim Tebow. But now school fan bases are going to needle each other about how they stole this player or that player.

Time to realize that it was really just all about the show in years past? TV rights, pageantry, fight songs. The whole thing is just so depressing.
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It's a corrupt and flawed system - and will probably get worse before it gets better. Some sort of salary cap would be helpful, but who would police it?
 
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I don't declare things dead until they are dead cold. I think this has some more miles on it. It will be messy in the meantime and it will look different when done. I need to see what the final thing looks like when done before passing judgement. For example I enjoyed playing 10 SEC games in 2020. I don't need to see more games against small football colleges.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There will be no such thing as loyalty to a program, school, or coach. The best players will force universities into bidding wars. A QB that wins the Heisman as a junior? He'll put himself on the free agency list for the portal the day after the bowls are done. Gone will be the days of sitting in the stands and watching a player progress over 2 to 4 years, maybe 5.

I'm not naive, I know it happened before on a lesser scale when it was not legal to make offers like we see now. But the scope of it now, and the fact that its going to just get worse....

There is no solution. NIL cannot be capped. I don't know, maybe student athletes never really did have much loyalty or allegiance and we romanticized it off the strength of the very few that seemed to embrace it, Peyton Manning, Tim Tebow. But now school fan bases are going to needle each other about how they stole this player or that player.

Time to realize that it was really just all about the show in years past? TV rights, pageantry, fight songs. The whole thing is just so depressing.
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Blame who you want: but refusing to allow a person use their own name, their own image or their own likeness to make money but allow other to make literally billions is un-American af. The USSC putting an end to the practice was the right thing to do.

With regard to the portal: Force the coaches to sit a year when they leave or pay a year of their next salary to the NCAA and put an end to the portal and I would be good with it. However, allowing coaches to pack up and leave in the dead of night with out penalty while forcing an athlete to sit a year or more = wrong. As long as coaches can leave with out penalty then so should student athletes.

If you or I had been D1 athletes in today's world, our parents and ourselves would most likely be taking advantage of the situation also.

The thing that bothers me about takes like yours; you are so willing to deny a basic right to some one so you can be entertained at a higher level. That is an amazing and sad mind-set IMO.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
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Literally a laugh out loud post!

Well done sir
 
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Before all of us who support NIL get too far up on a high horse, none of us had any problems with the NCAA restricting NIL for decades. None of us cared.

It's not like we were fighting for players like Al or Reggie or Condredge or Peyton to be able to profit from their NIL. Me included. We let this go on without a thought so we're not exactly beacons of virtue either.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Before all of us who support NIL get too far up on a high horse, none of us had any problems with the NCAA restricting NIL for decades. None of us cared.

It's not like we were fighting for players like Al or Reggie or Condredge or Peyton to be able to profit from their NIL. Me included. We let this go on without a thought so we're not exactly beacons of virtue either.
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Many of us cared
 
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LadyinOrange said:
I know this is probably a dumb question, but does any NIL money have to go toward tuition/books etc? Are kids getting free-ride scholarships AND NIL money?

I haven't talked to a single person who thinks the NIL thing is a good idea.
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You haven't talked to a HS Sr getting a 1M contract either. 😃💰🙂
 
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#150
Nods..I thought that I may be the only one seeing or feeling it. Its turned into a business more than a sport. Kind of sucks the life out of it! I wish these younger kids today were able to see what we all grew up on....Kids lining up (any sport, really) for the love of the game...ready to go to war and may the best man win.
 
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