Idaho, Moscow murders

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VOLtaism said:
Yes, plausible, I think if they identified the car as the one at the crime scene they could get a warrant once they found it. I have been telling people those ancestry sites reports their data to the main database. I think we are still missing a big puzzle piece. They could have found his car, got a warrant and searched it finding matching DNA then arrested him and impounded his car.
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i'm sure the character witnesses along with the vehicle prompted the genetic test, once the dots were connected they prob started looking at dna.
 
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Kristy* said:
They can't search the car without a warrant. They can't get a warrant without probable cause. They didn't impound his car until after his arrest.

Not many facts are being released yet, but CNN said they found him through genetic DNA. It was already stated his DNA was all over the crime scene. So, if they were able to match his to DNA from a relative in one of the ancestry databases, they could narrow down potential suspects. Then, they identify a relative who matches the profile, had means (was near the murder scene), and conclude he also has the kind of car placed at the scene. Then they track him to get his actual DNA to confirm a match. It's plausible.
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if that dna matches,

he gone.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
i'm sure the character witnesses along with the vehicle prompted the genetic test, once the dots were connected they prob started looking at dna.
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What we know for sure is they found unknown DNA at the crime scene, probably blood or skin. Since they asked for help identifying the white vehicle we can assume they got some. Once they identified the driver, that led them to the car. From that point they matched the DNA, which could have been from his hairbrush at the Pullman apartment or 1,000 other places. That was enough to arrest and get warrants.
 
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This guy definitely did it.
Idaho Murder Suspect Accused of Bizarre Jail Antics by Female Inmate

Cipollina says she heard Kohberger repeatedly shouting “I cut them, I’ll cut you,” in taunts directed at guards in the jail. “You come in here and I’ll cut you,” Cipollina claimed Kohberger yelled at one guard. “I’m going to pee on your face. Do what you want with me, I don’t give a s**t.”
 
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davethevol said:
This guy definitely did it.
Idaho Murder Suspect Accused of Bizarre Jail Antics by Female Inmate

Cipollina says she heard Kohberger repeatedly shouting “I cut them, I’ll cut you,” in taunts directed at guards in the jail. “You come in here and I’ll cut you,” Cipollina claimed Kohberger yelled at one guard. “I’m going to pee on your face. Do what you want with me, I don’t give a s**t.”
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Trying to make a case for insanity. Hopefully he gets the injection. If it were up to me and this case was a slam dunk I’d be ok with a public hanging. But that’s just me.
 
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Interesting tidbit...If you have seen a criminal investigation contributor, or whatever they're called, on Fox News by the name of Joe Morgan, he's a retired ATL coroner I think, has a book called Blood Beneath My Wings, teaches the forensic stuff at Jacksnoville State, and is a former high school classmate of mine.
 
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I just wanna say I think we kinda take it for granted that modern tech, connectivity, and investigation techniques make it so much easier to catch a guy like this. I know we've sacrificed some privacy and bloated government in the process, but this is a good consequence of that. I was blown away by the Ted Bundy doc and how easy it was for him to move to another state and become a complete ghost.
 
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I have to agree with huffhines that I would like to see DNA used to catch people. If they're my relatives then I say have at it. If law enforcement agencies can easily share data with each other, then things ought to be a lot more efficient. Seems like there are plenty of cameras these days.

That said, the whole earth is covered with DNA, and getting it from a crime scene must require a bit of luck (like you get it from under the victim's fingernail).
 
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Firebirdparts said:
I have to agree with huffhines that I would like to see DNA used to catch people. If they're my relatives then I say have at it. If law enforcement agencies can easily share data with each other, then things ought to be a lot more efficient. Seems like there are plenty of cameras these days.

That said, the whole earth is covered with DNA, and getting it from a crime scene must require a bit of luck (like you get it from under the victim's fingernail).
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Firebirdparts said:
I have to agree with huffhines that I would like to see DNA used to catch people. If they're my relatives then I say have at it. If law enforcement agencies can easily share data with each other, then things ought to be a lot more efficient. Seems like there are plenty of cameras these days.

That said, the whole earth is covered with DNA, and getting it from a crime scene must require a bit of luck (like you get it from under the victim's fingernail).
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It’s a slippery slope. The ancestry websites have been sharing dna results with law enforcement for a while. What happens when innocent people start getting arrested because there is a DNA match?
 
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davethevol said:
It’s a slippery slope. The ancestry websites have been sharing dna results with law enforcement for a while. What happens when innocent people start getting arrested because there is a DNA match?
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Well if the DNA matches....
 
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YankeeVol said:
Well if the DNA matches....
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In this case, yes. It’s just a matter of time before DNA is used against innocent people, and then they will have almost no way to defend themselves because of the way DNA evidence is presented. It’s a double edged sword.
 
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davethevol said:
In this case, yes. It’s just a matter of time before DNA is used against innocent people, and then they will have almost no way to defend themselves because of the way DNA evidence is presented. It’s a double edged sword.
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It's definitely a double-edged sword, but we've already corrected how we treat DNA. We have a better understanding now more than ever of what we can conclude from DNA evidence.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I just wanna say I think we kinda take it for granted that modern tech, connectivity, and investigation techniques make it so much easier to catch a guy like this. I know we've sacrificed some privacy and bloated government in the process, but this is a good consequence of that. I was blown away by the Ted Bundy doc and how easy it was for him to move to another state and become a complete ghost.
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One thing is for sure: The days of serial killers killing for years and years without getting caught is all but over. Too many cameras, too much technology. Had this creep been around in the 70's then I would wager he would have struck again eventually. Would have never been caught this quickly back then.
 
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