If Barnes retires when ZZ is done ......

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87Vol said:
We need to get a proven coach, period, and we shouldn't be too choosy about it. Beard's stuff is several years in the past. As long as nothing further happens in his private life, then we shouldn't turn our nose up at hiring him. The bottom line is that without a proven coach were headed back to Buzz, Cuonzo, Tyndale, O'Neill, Houston irrelevance.
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Kentucky could not get a PROVEN coach, mid-major disappointment for you!!
 
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cncchris33 said:
Your top option in your first post is Mark Byington. How is he proven? If we hired him last year out of James Madison, there is no way you'd have been satisfied. 20 games later, he's at the top of your list.
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You need to re-read the original post. My top option was Chris Beard. Beard is proven. He took Texas Tech to the Final Four. He should be easy to pull away from a low P5 program like Ole Siss. If he says no, only then would I go to the list, starting with Byington. If Byington can turn around Stackhouse's awful pathetic mess at Vandy in one year and turn them into a ranked contender, on top of what he did at James Madison, then that is enough "proven" in my book to tell me that he can evaluate talent, recruit and coach.
 
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87Vol said:
Exactly, and that means were headed back to Buzz-Cuonzo-Houston land.
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It could mean that, but not necessarily. Remember he did discover Nate Oats before he was cool.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bucky McMillan get an interview. He is on a very similar early career trajectory to Oats, going straight from high school to D1 ball. Last year he took Samford to their first tournament berth in 24 years.
 
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Golfprovol said:
How come other programs hire mid-major guys who become great but if we do we suck
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I don't know how come, but with the exception of Pearl, it has almost always worked out that way. It's too risky. We need a "proven" coach to take advantage of Rick Barnes having raised the profile of our program. We need a coach who can at least maintain, if not improve, upon what has been built. A mid-major guy is a crap shoot. We can't afford to roll the dice and hope. If we do, and were wrong, then we could wind up spending the next 20 years, irrelevant and near the bottom of the SEC.
 
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87Vol said:
You need to re-read the original post. My top option was Chris Beard. Beard is proven. He took Texas Tech to the Final Four. He should be easy to pull away from a low P5 program like Ole Siss. If he says no, only then would I go to the list, starting with Byington. If Byington can turn around Stackhouse's awful pathetic mess at Vandy in one year and turn them into a ranked contender, on top of what he did at James Madison, then that is enough "proven" in my book to tell me that he can evaluate talent, recruit and coach.
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Let’s just do a package deal with Coach Freshwater.
 
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87Vol said:
I don't know how come, but with the exception of Pearl, it has almost always worked out that way. It's too risky. We need a "proven" coach to take advantage of Rick Barnes having raised the profile of our program. We need a coach who can at least maintain, if not improve, upon what has been built. A mid-major guy is a crap shoot. We can't afford to roll the dice and hope. If we do, and were wrong, then we could wind up spending the next 20 years, irrelevant and near the bottom of the SEC.
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I blame Dickey for screwing up the KO tenure.
 
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87Vol said:
We should go get Chris Beard, Ole Miss's coach and make him turn us down. If he won't come, then other good options would be (in order of preference):

1. Mark Byington from Vandy
2. T.J. Otzelberger from Iowa State
3. Chris Jans from Miss. State
4. Patrick Kelsey from Louisville
6. Mike White from Georgia


We can outbid any of those schools. We have better facilities and a better chance of success and a higher ceiling as a program than any of them as well.

Thoughts?
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I'd take Iowa State's head coach in a heartbeat.
 
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87Vol said:
I don't know how come, but with the exception of Pearl, it has almost always worked out that way. It's too risky. We need a "proven" coach to take advantage of Rick Barnes having raised the profile of our program. We need a coach who can at least maintain, if not improve, upon what has been built. A mid-major guy is a crap shoot. We can't afford to roll the dice and hope. If we do, and were wrong, then we could wind up spending the next 20 years, irrelevant and near the bottom of the SEC.
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Most of the guys you mentioned aren't proven. You're saying they are proven because they are good at this moment but there are TONS of examples of guys coming in and going great out of the gate and then not panning out. At least 3 of those guys fit that and as pointed out if we had hired those guys before their current stop you would call them unproven and they still are because they haven't even finished a season yet.

Beard is proven but I doubt we'd go after him. Otzelberger is proven but I doubt he'd leave. White is an average coach and I don't want him.
 
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