If Clemson beats SMU does SMU still get in...

[sjt18]

I think there are good reasons that they should not. One, it would suggest that the ACC is close in competition to the Big 10 and SEC. It isn't.

 

[Rocky Top T]

IMO a SMU close loss to Clemson at 10-2 should put them over Bama in any real world situation . But Sankey Loves him some Bama for some reason and is pushing hard for them . And thats weird if you ask me .

SMU has won 11 games already

 

[landscapingvol]

and if so at what seeding? That could really screw up the standings.

If SMU, Penn State, and Georgia lose in fairly one sided games it will change the order quite a bit, regardless of what the committee implies. Alabama would likely be out, Georgia would have three losses, and Penn State would have two. The only real team OSU beat would be a two loss Penn State and Alabama’s best win would have three losses.

 

[Orange-Blooded]

I think if Clemson wins a close game, SMU gets in.

same unless SMU gets boat raced

 

[wmcovol]

If SMU loses and gets left out after already being comfortably in then you will see teams opt out of their conference championship games. They do not want that to happen.

Who on this committee is strong for the SEC? A former 1960s Bama guy who’s lived on the west coast the last 40 yrs? Gary Pickel who coached in the SEC about 6 yrs? Clemson winning gives the committee the perfect answer for all the 3 loss teams ….”don’t lose 3 games”.

 

[jackaro]

certainly are some flaws in the current selection protocol. playing for your conference title comes with jeopardy and it shouldn't but how do you ignore it? and AQs not a fan, at all. they got work to do after this year

I say no more conference championship games, declare the conference champion from regular season records (with shared titles if necessary). Probably wont happen because of the big television payday. Teams that play in the conference championship games then go to the playoff have to play way too many games. This isn't the NFL and I do not want it to be.

 

[C-south]

If Bama gets bumped by SMU and Boise State gets bumped by UNLV, Notre Dame has to beat SMU and UNLV to get the quarterfinal.

That sucks in its own way also.

We have no clue where they would seed them.

 

[swampfoxfan]

They said nobody get penalized by playing a championship game,so...

 

[ftsandersvol]

The committee might as well just come out and say the playoffs will always consist of four teams from the SEC with an automatic bid for Bama, four teams from the Big 10 with an automatic bid for OSU, an automatic bid for Notre Dame, one team from the Big 12, one team from the ACC, and one team from the group of 5 and quit pussyfooting around.

 

[Col_Cathcart]

I think if Clemson wins a close game, SMU gets in.

Clemson could win in 8 OTs and they’ll still drop SMU more than they dropped OSU for losing to Michigan.

 

[ftsandersvol]

The committee has come out and said the seedings of the teams not playing this weekend will not change. That sounds like to me SMU is out if they lose.

 

[Col_Cathcart]

The committee has come out and said the seedings of the teams not playing this weekend will not change. That sounds like to me SMU is out if they lose.

Can you give a link for that statement? That seems to contradict previous statements I’ve read.

 

[SMU Vol]

Before Tuesday I thought if my Ponies don't lose ugly, we're in. But after hearing Manuel saying we could "potentially" fall behind Alabama with a loss, it sounds like the fix is in. Gotta beat Clemson.

 

[fefe]

DO YALL EVEN REMEMBER 13-0 FSU LAST YEAR?

They will do it again. Some of yall are in denial.

And don't forget Georgia who was #1 and undefeated until they lost the SEC championship. They fell all the way to #6.

 

[utchs81]

They said nobody get penalized by playing a championship game,so.

Being penalized needs defining, does it mean out of playoffs all together or just movement in the seeding. Some would say moving from a 5 to an 8 would be a penalty. If SMU or UGA lose then I would expect seeding movement even if they remain in the playoff picture.

 

[Orange931]

The committee has come out and said the seedings of the teams not playing this weekend will not change. That sounds like to me SMU is out if they lose.

That’s for the teams that are not in the Top 12. They were saying Ole Miss and S Carolina couldn’t sneak in. Bama can and will be knocked out when Clemson wins, they’re not gonna move SMU out.

 

[Orange931]

Before Tuesday I thought if my Ponies don't lose ugly, we're in. But after hearing Manuel saying we could "potentially" fall behind Alabama with a loss, it sounds like the fix is in. Gotta beat Clemson.

SMU is good either way. They’re not gonna get knocked out.

 

[KTrain]

and if so at what seeding? That could really screw up the standings.

I would say NO, even if, say they went in to Overtime and lost. I just don't think they give them any credit for a close, could have gone either way game. Unless its a team the movers and shaker money makers want untouched. Just look at UGA playing at Home vs unranked team went to multiple OTs and got outplayed @ Home but it just counted for a straight up win for UGA "thou shall not taint the SECC by bringing up UGA poor play" we have big money vested.
Same goes for Bama the committee brings up they are 2 & 1 vs ranked teams, then crickets when they lost 2 to unranked & bigly to one, that is never brought up in comparison's by same said committee.
Enough wiggle room to make a good debate on both sides so you pick the debate side that is in your vested energy. Its good to be King. You can pick what benefits you and the system and trying to keep the peasant schools happy.

 

[KTrain]

I have an idea that they surprised him with a couple of issues and he made it up on the fly. I suspect some committee members see it differently.

I will say Warde Manuel is either a tool or bad at explaining anything, word salad. He was either a very bad spokesperson or a confused tool, they could go back and say he meant this and just didn't come out as he intended. He was a fool but ultimately all the fans are being played.

 

[VFL92]

SMU needs to keep it within 10. As a Tennessee fan, we should all be rooting for Clemson to win a close one here.

Clemson has the chance to beat Kentucky in basketball and keep Alabama out of the CFP Playoffs in the same week. I will donate to the IPTAY fund if they pull this off!

 

[WillisWG]

The order of the teams not playing does not change, however those playing can change the overall order based on outcome of their games...I think that's what he's saying.

 

[Sarms58]

I’d like to see what the spread would be of all the teams in the bracket head to head on a neutral site

Teamrankings is a good site. It’s more for gamblers than fans so it’s usually less emotional in its rankings.

 

[gobravesvols16]

They say they’re “not going to punish a team that loses a conference championship game” so let’s see if they put their money where their mouth is and bump Bama out

 

[sami]

It could go either way, but honestly I’d drop SMU below Bama because they haven’t beat anyone with more than 8 wins and if they lose to Clemson they will have proven that they can’t beat anyone with more than 8 wins. Bama has beat Georgia, Missouri, South Carolina, and LSU. All better than Clemson.

Truth. The Alabama hate on here misses the point that teams like SMU and Boise State have no business in a 12-team field. Boise State will be the 4 seed with a bye and has beaten no one but G5 teams.

The whole process is a joke, and I blame Sankey for getting in bed with these motherf***kers. But the payoff is all that ever mattered.

 

[VOLS INC.]

They say they’re “not going to punish a team that loses a conference championship game” so let’s see if they put their money where their mouth is and bump Bama out

“Well we we considered the data points, that pointed to the data, we just felt that Bama must get in the playoffs. With a 1st round bye. And we are going to spot them 14 points in every game”.