If Clemson beats SMU does SMU still get in...

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You would think that since TV controls who gets picked and where they are ranked, and that Bama gets every possible benefit, that on a close call like this it would be a cinch that SMU would be out, Bama in. I mean, that's what I have been told here repeatedly. It seems inconceivable that SMU could be chosen over Bama, right? LOL...
 
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Sky is falling department:
I believe I read that the CFP Committee has stated they will not punish the losers of the Championship Games. That said, if UNLV, Iowa St and Clemson all win do the losers (Boise State, Az St, SMU) stay in the CFP knocking out 11 Bama, 10 Ind, and 9 Tn ????? Would they have the balls to stay true to their word?? I doubt it.
 
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Starchief13VFL said:
Sky is falling department:
I believe I read that the CFP Committee has stated they will not punish the losers of the Championship Games. That said, if UNLV, Iowa St and Clemson all win do the losers (Boise State, Az St, SMU) stay in the CFP knocking out 11 Bama, 10 Ind, and 9 Tn ????? Would they have the balls to stay true to their word?? I doubt it.
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It would almost be worth it because the whole "committee" concept would be a ridiculed out of existence with that field.

But "rules" are made to be broken when revenue is at stake.
 
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sami said:
It would almost be worth it because the whole "committee" concept would be a ridiculed out of existence with that field.

But "rules" are made to be broken when revenue is at stake.
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There is less than zero chance that Boise State or Arizona St would be in with a loss...most intelligent people think SMU is a bit more likely than not to push Bama out with a close loss. But the comparison between Bama and SMU would be a close one at that point and I could understand whichever way they go, though I would have SMU over Bama in that scenario.
 
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VolCalls said:
Yes they will. Committee chair basically said a team in the field currently who loses their CCG this weekend is not likely to drop out.
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That is not what was said. They said Miami, Ole Miss etc will not get in. But teams that play will have their ranking adjusted based on how they perform.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
There is less than zero chance that Boise State or Arizona St would be in with a loss...most intelligent people think SMU is a bit more likely than not to push Bama out with a close loss. But the comparison between Bama and SMU would be a close one at that point and I could understand whichever way they go, though I would have SMU over Bama in that scenario.
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Of course you would, but at least we can rest assured that the noble committee will come up with the correct solution with the utmost objectivity.
 
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SMU did not play the top contenders in the ACC in the regular season (Miami, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Syracuse). Most games were against the bottom part of the ACC.

That will work against them in the comparison to Bama if they lose. If it is a real close lose and they look competitive maybe they survive. But a convincing Clemson win probably pushes them out and leaves Bama.

Bama has the advantage of beating Georgia.
 
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So for those who want Bama out, you have to hope for a "close Clemson" victory that will keep SMU in or that the committee thinks high enough about Boise State that they leave them in if UNLV beats them.

I personally think with Bama sitting where they are, SMU and Boise State have to win to stay in. They are not likely to survive a comparison to Bama.
 
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loservol said:
Any potential way Warde could be tossed off the committee for obvious bias?
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That is not bias - that is the truth. If Clemson beats SMU by 21+ points (aka a blow out), SMU is out. SMU does not have a good win against a team in the top 12.
 
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Starchief13VFL said:
Sky is falling department:
I believe I read that the CFP Committee has stated they will not punish the losers of the Championship Games. That said, if UNLV, Iowa St and Clemson all win do the losers (Boise State, Az St, SMU) stay in the CFP knocking out 11 Bama, 10 Ind, and 9 Tn ????? Would they have the balls to stay true to their word?? I doubt it.
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L for #15 ASU and they're out. They're seeded only because they are projected as 5th highest ranked conference champion, no championship no playoffs. That IMHO is not punishing them.
 
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volfan102455 said:
SMU did not play the top contenders in the ACC in the regular season (Miami, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Syracuse). Most games were against the bottom part of the ACC.

That will work against them in the comparison to Bama if they lose. If it is a real close lose and they look competitive maybe they survive. But a convincing Clemson win probably pushes them out and leaves Bama.

Bama has the advantage of beating Georgia.
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Alabama has the advantage of bringing a lot more viewers to the CFP than SMU too.

In the long run for the business, less people are pissed off by keeping Bama than are pissed off by dumping Bama.

Businesses make that "do I keep this trans spokesperson or go back to somebody like Peyton" decision all the time. Piss off the fewest people, sell more beer.

Piss off the fewest people, sell more ads during the playoffs. That's how this works.
 
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SMU should not get in with 2 losses. They have the 75th ranked SOS. In contrast Arizona State has the 72 and Iowa State has the 68th rank SOS. That is where two loss nobodies belong when the committee is being generous.
 
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loservol said:
Any potential way Warde could be tossed off the committee for obvious bias?
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I believe bias is a requirement. I have heard nearly every media head (especially Finebaum) claim that the committee will select the teams with better brand recognition and marketability. That tells me that the committee’s is somehow rewarded for increasing tv ratings. That is proof enough that bias is the goal.
 
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sami said:
Of course you would, but at least we can rest assured that the noble committee will come up with the correct solution with the utmost objectivity.
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You obviously have no integrity and couldn’t elevate yourself to be objective and think rationally so it’s difficult to understand how others could but trust me there are people out there who are different than yourself
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Alabama has the advantage of bringing a lot more viewers to the CFP than SMU too.

In the long run for the business, less people are pissed off by keeping Bama than are pissed off by dumping Bama.

Businesses make that "do I keep this trans spokesperson or go back to somebody like Peyton" decision all the time. Piss off the fewest people, sell more beer.

Piss off the fewest people, sell more ads during the playoffs. That's how this works.
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Except the people who make the decisions have no stake in the outcome, unlike your Bud Light example
 
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adam.vol said:
SMU should not get in with 2 losses. They have the 75th ranked SOS. In contrast Arizona State has the 72 and Iowa State has the 68th rank SOS. That is where two loss nobodies belong when the committee is being generous.
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The loser of the B12 game will have 3 losses, no?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
Except the people who make the decisions have no stake in the outcome, unlike your Bud Light example
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They are all in the industry, not disinterested jurors. They'd all be excused immediately as jurors because they actually make or have made money from the massive sports marketing industry.

Piss off people in your industry by not following the party line and see how many jobs you get offered.

Again, this isn't rocket science. These aren't impartial jurors. They're SPECIFICALLY chosen because they work in the business and they're not going to make decisions which hurt the business.
 
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