If Ferguson or Dobbs are half as good as Eric Ainge was

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After reading all the negative post on VN for the last few days you would think we are 0-2 instead of 2-0. We all knew this year was gonna be a challenge for everyone!
 
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I'm so tired of this conversation. How many games has Worley cost us again? How many big time mistakes has he made? How good have Dobbs and Ferguson looked in a real game? Why do you act as if its a no brainer Worley should be pulled when in fact he has managed games well and done what has been asked of him. Sure he's been a little inaccurate at times and his timing can be a little off but those two things should improve every week because lets not forget Worley does not have that much experience either.
 
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Volunteer forever said:
After reading all the negative post on VN for the last few days you would think we are 0-2 instead of 2-0. We all knew this year was gonna be a challenge for everyone!
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The years of loss and a generation raised on boy bands has not been kind to our next generation of Vols. Whiney emos everywhere.
 
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No one is saying Worely should definitely not be the starter, but what i am saying is that you can only really tell what a player will do in a live game by giving him a chance...practice is not a game...it would have been nice to have seen one of them could have done in garbage time the last 2 weeks to see what they can do with the lights on...you never know until they are in that situation...however, what we do know right now, is Worely is mediocre at best...

Don't give me the WRs running bad routes excuses..i am sure they are...but regardless Worely has terrible footwork, mechanics, slow realease and a noodle arm.....yes he hasn't mad any mistakes thus far but then again he hasn't actually played against a breathing defense yet.
 
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Volunteer forever said:
After reading all the negative post on VN for the last few days you would think we are 0-2 instead of 2-0. We all knew this year was gonna be a challenge for everyone!
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Apparently not. Some people think we have freakin Johnny Manziel and Jameiss Winston sitting on the bench. I guess the saying is true the backup qb really is always the most popular player on the team. Especially on Volnation. I remember last year when we had an NFL qb under center and people were crying yelling for Worley. Pathetic!
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
No one is saying Worely should definitely not be the starter, but what i am saying is that you can only really tell what a player will do in a live game by giving him a chance...practice is not a game...it would have been nice to have seen one of them could have done in garbage time the last 2 weeks to see what they can do with the lights on...you never know until they are in that situation...however, what we do know right now, is Worely is mediocre at best...don't give me he WRs runnng badroutes..i am sure they are...but regardless Worely has terrible footwork, mechanics, slow realease and a noodle arm.....yes he hasn't mad any mistakes thus far but then again he hasn't actually played against a breathing defense yet.
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Your logic is idiotic and backwards. I'm sure our Freshmen QBs who aren't performing in practice witll come out in a game and light the scoreboard up. That makes a whole lot of sense. I mean we talkin bout practice.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
No one is saying Worely should definitely not be the starter, but what i am saying is that you can only really tell what a player will do in a live game by giving him a chance...practice is not a game...it would have been nice to have seen one of them could have done in garbage time the last 2 weeks to see what they can do with the lights on...you never know until they are in that situation...however, what we do know right now, is Worely is mediocre at best...

Don't give me the WRs running bad routes excuses..i am sure they are...but regardless Worely has terrible footwork, mechanics, slow realease and a noodle arm.....yes he hasn't mad any mistakes thus far but then again he hasn't actually played against a breathing defense yet.
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So, how do you really feel??
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
No one is saying Worely should definitely not be the starter, but what i am saying is that you can only really tell what a player will do in a live game by giving him a chance...practice is not a game...it would have been nice to have seen one of them could have done in garbage time the last 2 weeks to see what they can do with the lights on...you never know until they are in that situation...however, what we do know right now, is Worely is mediocre at best...

Don't give me the WRs running bad routes excuses..i am sure they are...but regardless Worely has terrible footwork, mechanics, slow realease and a noodle arm.....yes he hasn't mad any mistakes thus far but then again he hasn't actually played against a breathing defense yet.
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same things was said about Crompton, and Kiffin told us multiple time every week that the wrs had alot to do with his problems. We didn't believe it until after the Georgia game. Worley doesn't have a noodle arm, and when he steps into a throw he shows what he can do.
 
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Now this is just goofy. Coaches who have their butts on the line made a concious decision to put the worst possible option on the field. Ok. Listen to their interviews about Worley. He is not where they want him, but he is obviously the best option they have or they would be doing something differently, and he is in their own words "steady" and "progressing". Armchair quarterbacks chap my a$$. Sorry, but been a very long day...
 
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VolGee4 said:
Yes, he did. We played Auburn tough again and got jobbed by the officials, when the SEC wanted an undefeated team.
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Ainge broke collar bone in Notre Dame game...Rick Clausen took it the rest of the way...SIAP
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Please God! Smite the next moron that starts another thread like this one. Also, turn their wife into a pilar of salt and slay their firstborn. It seems only YOU have the power to overcome this evil that haunts VN. Amen.
 
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butchna said:
Ainge broke collar bone in Notre Dame game...Rick Clausen took it the rest of the way...SIAP
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Yea, I realized my mistake. Ainge did beat UF and UGA. Ainge had help from 3 experienced WR and two 1000 yard rushers.
 
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I'll roll with Worley. I do not want a QB controversy and if we see Dobbs or Ferguson it will not be good. I hope Worley improves and starts next year as well.
 
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If Ferguson or Dobbs are half as good as Ainge was, then Ainge was twice as good as Ferguson or Dobbs are......simple math.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Let me help you, these are true freshmen....they do not know the system or the playbook, and lack experience. Butch has shown he is VERY VERY detail oriented, and disciplined. He also is not in a hurry to burn either options or sacrifice the future for this year which no one really has huge hopes for anyway. They may end up being the greatest thing since sliced bread, but putting them in early and burning a red shirt option isn't wise. 1.) you lose the redshirt and a year of eligibility. 2.) you could put them in a guaranteed to fail situation and destroy their confidence.

The other Reality is Worley has done what he has been asked to do..., he has played with absolute discipline, and for a guy not so mobile even managed to keep for some decent plays, due to really good timing. Some of his balls have arrived late, and behind the WR....which is why many, me included are a bit concerned. However by all accounts that is as much if not more the responsibility of the receivers per the coaching staff. This doesn't sound like a big stretch considering our WR are pretty much all true first year freshman....so I am willing to believe some of those issues could be not running route correctly, but we also all know some have been him throwing the ball without enough lead.....still as troubling as that has been, he's been absolutely heads up on ball protection, not throwing into coverage, and managing the field.....for a detail oriented "top button" coach like Butch that is invaluable. That you desperately want to see what the new guys can do, on the hopes they're the next Manning, Martin, or Clausen....and are willing to burn a red shirt on a easy win, or put guys without experience against the Jaws of a number 2 team, doesn't really effect his decision in the slightest. Until Worley "MESSES UP" and in a big way, only an idiot is going to sacrifice their options and put them in. So far one thing is clear, Worley > Peterman. And in a big way... and our coach is not desperate enough to put a freshman in unless he has too. That time has yet to present itself.
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but but Dobbs is a genius! And he is black so he can probably run (no racist).
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
No one is saying Worely should definitely not be the starter, but what i am saying is that you can only really tell what a player will do in a live game by giving him a chance...practice is not a game...it would have been nice to have seen one of them could have done in garbage time the last 2 weeks to see what they can do with the lights on...you never know until they are in that situation...however, what we do know right now, is Worely is mediocre at best...

Don't give me the WRs running bad routes excuses..i am sure they are...but regardless Worely has terrible footwork, mechanics, slow realease and a noodle arm.....yes he hasn't mad any mistakes thus far but then again he hasn't actually played against a breathing defense yet.
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Why burn a red shirt to see if this guy or that guy will do a few things in ONE game???....Makes no sense....Rather they sit out this season and learn the offense and in a year or 2 have a legit chance at being the QB.
 
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For the third time today on the same subject.

OP + Thread = FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Spartacavolus said:
everybody I see posting about throwing the true freshmen out there with a new staff, new offense and new wr's to boot, just needs to think about the entire situation with the program.

We are likely to get a qb pulled Saturday. Which is the better for the long term: Worley gets pulled and someone gets a chance? Or a freshman goes in, plays terrible, gets pulled, and Worley comes off the bench?
Rhetorical question, imo.
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Thank you...also if we're forced to play one or both of the true freshmen, Butch's preference will be revealed...and we lose one along with Peterman..great situation for next year
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