If Holly Warlick is the coach-in-waiting

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Voldemonium said:
Women's basketball is about players. UT doesn't have a game-changer and hasn't had one since CP3. UConn had Maya Moore, Baylor has Griner, ND has Wiggins, KY had Mathies, we've got Meighan Simmons? I don't mean that as a slight but our HS scouting the last 5yrs has been pretty poor.

The other problem UT has to get resolved is in conditioning. I believe most of our players have had major injuries. The last few years, Baugh (2 ACLs), Brewer (transferred), Cain (2 ACLs), Williams (ACL), Shikena (knee sprain), Spani (knee sprain), Simmons (high school ACL), Johnson (shoulder). This roster has not panned out. I see a lot of teams opting for smaller more athletic players that play suffocating defense. I think it puts our girls who average 6'2 at a disadvantage.

With regard to coaching, I don't doubt that Holly Warlick has the skills to do the job. My concern would be how she recruits and scouts talent. I have a feeling that Pat has told the UT AD that this is her final year and has asked that Warlick take her job. Out of deference to her years of service Hart et al have agreed. I believe that Pat's earned the right to name her successor. I'm just not sure the people she's chosen can keep UT at the level we've come to expect.
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Nobody out there will be able to produce the results that Lady Vol fans have come to expect. The level of competition has risen steadily over the last several years to the point that I do not believe that any school will be able to dominate the sport the way we expect to year in and year out.
 
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BigOrangeCrazy said:
You, my "Vol friend" are a complete idiot! For starters the 60 point loss, that was the basis of your point, was 2 coaches and at least 6 years before Buzz even got here. Which shows how little you know/care!

If you can't come even remotely close to getting your facts straight and just want to post something negative as quick as possible then you have problems with yourself!

You have NO IDEA what this team or any of the coaches are going through right now.

As for you're "fan -a -leaving" Well, get the h3ll out!
Sorry for the rant Volnation. :hi:
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You don't have to apologize, hon. This is what they built the intraweb for. Rant away.

And of course it was Wade instead of Buzz. I'll plead age, but also I was addled by the crapfest I had just witnessed. Fact is, this is Holly's time to shine...and it ain't happening. She chose not to take a HC job elsewhere, so this is the body of work we have to examine. My opinion is largely colored by what happened at VA, Stanford, and of course last night..but there it is.

We have the pre-eminent program in women's bb...and as such, we should hire the best coach available.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Could do a lot worse than Matt Mitchell. The thing that is so great about Coach Summitt and the program she built is that there is no shortage of great coaches with UT ties that have learned from her. Caldwell would be my top choice but wouldn't be shocked to see her stay at LSU a while. I feel dirty even talking about a new coach
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Thanks, I couldn't think of his name. I haven't read anywhere about how bad Pat's illness is, that is, does she really know what's going on, it comes & goes, etc? She looks likes she's following the game but at other times looks like she's just there.
 
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therealitytheory said:
You don't have to apologize, hon. This is what they built the intraweb for. Rant away.

And of course it was Wade instead of Buzz. I'll plead age, but also I was addled by the crapfest I had just witnessed. Fact is, this is Holly's time to shine...and it ain't happening. She chose not to take a HC job elsewhere, so this is the body of work we have to examine. My opinion is largely colored by what happened at VA, Stanford, and of course last night..but there it is.

We have the pre-eminent program in women's bb...and as such, we should hire the best coach available.
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That's the bottom line---hire the best coach available. Loyalty is one thing but winning is another and in sports that's what keeps the fans and donors happy. Not many fans/donors are happy with losing teams year in/out.
 
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BigOrangeCrazy said:
You, my "Vol friend" are a complete idiot! For starters the 60 point loss, that was the basis of your point, was 2 coaches and at least 6 years before Buzz even got here. Which shows how little you know/care!

If you can't come even remotely close to getting your facts straight and just want to post something negative as quick as possible then you have problems with yourself!

You have NO IDEA what this team or any of the coaches are going through right now.

As for you're "fan -a -leaving" Well, get the h3ll out!
Sorry for the rant Volnation. :hi:
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Exactly!!

We don't know fans like him or her!!:angry:
 
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chuck0303 said:
Someone suggested the KY coach; seems like he would be a great choice since his team is definitely playing defense, beat UT this season, and learned under Pat. I think he's a better choice than any assistants on the UT coaching staff.
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I'm drawing a blank on her name but I would love to get Baylors head coach. She's going to bring intensity and great defense.
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UTjonez said:
I'm drawing a blank on her name but I would love to get Baylors head coach. She's going to bring intensity and great defense.
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Kim Mulkey. Heckuva coach and recruiter (see: Brittany Greiner), and a serious risk-taker fashion wise. heh

Definitely put her on the list.
 
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And for you Holly-loyalists out there...by all means, put her on the list too. So long as there is a list, and a legitimate search for the best available coach in all the land. Because the program built by Pat Summit deserves nothing less, right?
 
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what about Kelly Jolly Harper ?
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21VOL said:
what about Kelly Jolly Harper ?
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I've watched a lot of games she's coached and have heard a lot of coaching in the huddle. I love her as a Lady Vol, but I don't think she is what this program needs to lead it after Pat.
 
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It will be hard to replace a "legend" as the Lady Vols basketball coach. Regardless, I'm still and ALWAYS will be a Vol fan forever!:thumbsup::yes:

See the sign at the left!:eek:k:
 
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Not that I really care all that much but to me if Warlick is appointed it would feel like the program just settled on her.
 
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cd12 said:
Not that I really care all that much but to me if Warlick is appointed it would feel like the program just settled on her.
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so why did you post here ?
I'm sure there has a lot been going on with CPS illness that we don't know about,you can see what it is doing to the team on the sidelines,I'm sure it is affecting any coaching abilties from Holly and the others,it is just a god awful situation for the team and it is starting to show up big time,now
I have no idea who will be the one to take over CPS rein ,but i do wish them well
 
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governmentmule said:
so why did you post here ?
I'm sure there has a lot been going on with CPS illness that we don't know about,you can see what it is doing to the team on the sidelines,I'm sure it is affecting any coaching abilties from Holly and the others,it is just a god awful situation for the team and it is starting to show up big time,now
I have no idea who will be the one to take over CPS rein ,but i do wish them well
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because I can
 
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Did Pat ever stand up last night except for timeouts / halftime? Even from the start, she looked like she was having a tough day.
 
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You all really sure you want Nikki Caldwell? Her LSU team beat a pretty bad ETSU team by 3 points tonight. I've seen ETSU play a few times this year and they're bad. The Lady Vols would beat them by at least 30.
 
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1. Mulkey
2. Rick Insell MTSU (a male Pat Summitt type)
3. Caldwell

Warlick --- pls no.
 
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chuck0303 said:
Thanks, I couldn't think of his name. I haven't read anywhere about how bad Pat's illness is, that is, does she really know what's going on, it comes & goes, etc? She looks likes she's following the game but at other times looks like she's just there.
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It appears to me that CPS is now a spectator.
 
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Anybody else wonder where all these Lady Vols "fans" are when they are winning? I have to wonder where all these folks are when things go good and congratulations are in order-too busy? Now they come out of the woodwork to criticize and pick at the body-like crows after a war they weren't involved in. Last year the threads-even during the SEC Championship game (where, btw, the LVs absolutely waxed Ky)-only had a tiny number of contributors. Trashy and tacky, IMO.
 
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This thread was admittedly born in the afterglow of a VERY poor team performance. In the light of a new day...I would have encouraged a national search for Pat's replacement in a more positive way.

The issue still stands, however - regardless of who may or may have not been around this board to cheer last year's SEC tournament championship game. But it is always amusing to hear the "where were they when blah-blah because I was here" line of reasoning.
 
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It is hard to talk about not having Pat Summitt as head coach of our Lady Vols. Pat is the face of not only Lady Vol basketball, but of the ENTIRE UNIVERSITY.

I grieve over Pat's condition because she is not only the best coach, she is an equally fantastic person.

I want only what is best for Pat, but when it is her time to go, we may as well be prepared for the fact that there will never be another Pat Summitt! She is definitely in a class by herself. And one really great thing about that is that she is OUR very own.

May God bless Pat Summitt. She has brought us more than we could have ever expected, and she has been more to Lady Vol basketball; to women's basketball; to our university; and a greater role model for everyone than we could have ever dreamed.

Her successor will have a difficult time taking her position because no one will ever take her place. Her shadow will be the longest one anyone in sports has ever walked under.

We will continue to have good teams at Tennessee because this is the women's basketball mecca, but for now, let's just enjoy having Pat and look forward to our girls bearing down and winning nr. 9 for Pat!
 
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Once again this veteran Lady Vol squad wilts under intense pressure. The clearly better-coached team won.

Put Dawn Staley on the list by all means..
 
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