If Kiffin Stayed

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bleedorange0037 said:
A combination of Fulmer and Hamilton.
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So kiffin had nothing to do with the mess were in? That's the stupidest statement I have ever read! You can blame fulmer, Hamilton but to say kiffin didn't help screw up our program is flat out stupid
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how about the huge win over Arizona? They are so good their coach got fired midseason but at least his closest game vs a BCS opponent was USCw
 
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Jmavols2 said:
So kiffin had nothing to do with the mess were in? That's the stupidest statement I have ever read! You can blame fulmer, Hamilton but to say kiffin didn't help screw up our program is flat out stupidPosted via VolNation Mobile
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Nominee for understatement of the century.
 
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govols182 said:
So when Dooley gets fired you will follow him to Tennessee Tech and root for them?
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No I will support who ever is at Tennessee! like you should do instead of having a crush on a coach that got us in trouble with the NCAA, had half of his great recruiting class either get kicked out or they suck, and left our program in the middle of the night like a coward.
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Kiffin finished with one more win than Dooley, 7-6 versus 6-7, for their respective first seasons at UT. Kiffin did this with multiple NFL draft picks, including two in the first round. Dooley had a much younger team.

The bottom line is this. Each is unproven at this point and the jury is still out. But, for those who want to down Dooley while elevating Kiffin to some god-like status, you have no basis in reality. The guy has now coached at three different stops (including the current one with superior talent for most games he plays), and he hasn't exactly burned it up at any of them.
 
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Jmavols2 said:
So kiffin had nothing to do with the mess were in? That's the stupidest statement I have ever read! You can blame fulmer, Hamilton but to say kiffin didn't help screw up our program is flat out stupid
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Didn't Kiffin bring Chaney in with him? Not sure that is working out that great for us, I believe he left him behind so that he could continue to screw us.
 
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Jmavols2 said:
No I will support who ever is at Tennessee! like you should do instead of having a crush on a coach that got us in trouble with the NCAA, had half of his great recruiting class either get kicked out or they suck, and left our program in the middle of the night like a coward.
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So blindly following Fulmer down the mountain into the lowest valley Tennessee has been in decades is what you did. Thanks for making him last 3 years too long.
 
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TnAngler said:
Didn't Kiffin bring Chaney in with him? Not sure that is working out that great for us, I believe he left him behind so that he could continue to screw us.
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Chaney didn't want to leave. Kiffin asked him to go with him. Nice try though.
 
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TnAngler said:
Didn't Kiffin bring Chaney in with him? Not sure that is working out that great for us, I believe he left him behind so that he could continue to screw us.
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Chaney will be fine or atleast I think so! His play calling has been great some games and other games I'm not sure if the players screw up or what but overall I like him and he calls a good game with Tyler Justin and darick healthy
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EZE said:
Kiffin finished with one more win than Dooley, 7-6 versus 6-7, for their respective first seasons at UT. Kiffin did this with multiple NFL draft picks, including two in the first round. Dooley had a much younger team.

The bottom line is this. Each is unproven at this point and the jury is still out. But, for those who want to down Dooley while elevating Kiffin to some god-like status, you have no basis in reality. The guy has now coached at three different stops (including the current one with superior talent for most games he plays), and he hasn't exactly burned it up at any of them.
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The biggest thing Kiffin had in his favor: ERIC BERRY. Kiffin had way more talent on the roster prior to getting here than Dooley did. Dooley may or may not be the best coach out there and he would admit that himself. Coach Dooley was the one guy that took a chance on us when no one else would. Knowing that he was getting a team that was short on talent and facing sanctions, he put his reputation on the line. Regardless of how he turns out, I am grateful that he is atleast trying to be part of the solution and not the problem. Go Dooley.
 
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TnAngler said:
The biggest thing Kiffin had in his favor: ERIC BERRY. Kiffin had way more talent on the roster prior to getting here than Dooley did. Dooley may or may not be the best coach out there and he would admit that himself. Coach Dooley was the one guy that took a chance on us when no one else would. Knowing that he was getting a team that was short on talent and facing sanctions, he put his reputation on the line. Regardless of how he turns out, I am grateful that he is atleast trying to be part of the solution and not the problem. Go Dooley.
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Man, how different would this team look with Eric Berry?
 
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TnAngler said:
The biggest thing Kiffin had in his favor: ERIC BERRY. Kiffin had way more talent on the roster prior to getting here than Dooley did. Dooley may or may not be the best coach out there and he would admit that himself. Coach Dooley was the one guy that took a chance on us when no one else would. Knowing that he was getting a team that was short on talent and facing sanctions, he put his reputation on the line. Regardless of how he turns out, I am grateful that he is atleast trying to be part of the solution and not the problem. Go Dooley.
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Oh please. What else was Dooley going to do? Stay in that sewer in Ruston, LA for the rest of his career? Almost any coach would take a fivefold raise to come to UT in that situation. It's UT who took a chance on him, not the other way around.
 
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Jmavols2 said:
Chaney will be fine or atleast I think so! His play calling has been great some games and other games I'm not sure if the players screw up or what but overall I like him and he calls a good game with Tyler Justin and darick healthy
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You are probably right. It does appear that Bray respects and likes how Chaney coaches. I guess I can't argue whith our QB on Coach Chaney.
 
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SGMVols said:
Oh please. What else was Dooley going to do? Stay in that sewer in Ruston, LA for the rest of his career? Almost any coach would take a fivefold raise to come to UT in that situation. It's UT who took a chance on him, not the other way around.
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There were coordinators and coaches at nonBCS schools turning this dumpster fire down.
 
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govols182 said:
So blindly following Fulmer down the mountain into the lowest valley Tennessee has been in decades is what you did. Thanks for making him last 3 years too long.
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I wanted fulmer out after 05! Dooley has a young team with no depth an is recruiting needs and good players. I'll give him till 2013. We had 46 players leave between fulmer,kiffin, and Dooley. To say he should be able to compete this year after that many people leave and he loses our good players to injures is crazy! Like I said if you still love kiffin go cheer for him and the Trojans cuz he isn't here anymore. The best thing for you would be to accept it. You sound like a guy who had a bad break up and 1 year 1/2 later still talks about her like she's perfect. Just move on
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DrunkJohnny said:
There were coordinators and coaches at nonBCS schools turning this dumpster fire down.
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Dooley had been passed over by Auburn in favor of Gene Chizik the previous season. And that was after a winning season (still his only winning season as a head coach, by the way). It was his only decent chance to get into a real conference and he knew it.
 
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Jmavols2 said:
I wanted fulmer out after 05! Dooley has a young team with no depth an is recruiting needs and good players. I'll give him till 2013. We had 46 players leave between fulmer,kiffin, and Dooley. To say he should be able to compete this year after that many people leave and he loses our good players to injures is crazy! Like I said if you still love kiffin go cheer for him and the Trojans cuz he isn't here anymore. The best thing for you would be to accept it. You sound like a guy who had a bad break up and 1 year 1/2 later still talks about her like she's perfect. Just move on
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So you didn't support our coach? You wanted him gone for 3 years while he still coached at Tennessee. Pot meet kettle.
 
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SGMVols said:
Oh please. What else was Dooley going to do? Stay in that sewer in Ruston, LA for the rest of his career? Almost any coach would take a fivefold raise to come to UT in that situation. It's UT who took a chance on him, not the other way around.
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SGM, I hate to disagree with you but from my understanding NO one wanted this job. If you recall the list of folks asked was extremely long. I was in Iraq during this hire, so maybe I missed out on some of the insights going during the process, so please forgive if I am wrong. Regardless of where he was, you don't grow from crap hole to another.
 
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