If Pruitt starts Guarantano against Kentucky—he is not a legitimate coach.

[barrylee]

A coach gives his team a chance to win by exhausting every possible option.

We lost to Georgia yesterday with a 4th string QB.

Our defense played their asses off. And guarantano handed them the game by being concrete footed in the pocket, slow to make decisions, and just completely inept.

This isn’t a shock either. We’ve known what we have at QB for 3 years now. The fact that guarantano has started a game after the Bama game last year(even before that if we’re being honest), makes me SERIOUSLY wonder if Pruitt is a competent coach.

And makes me wonder if our administration is competent giving him an extension....

Well if u want to get a large number of likes start another thread telling us how JG sucks!!

 

[Devo182]

Playing their butts off is nice, but we needed a sub-20 or 25 pt game going in and we knew that...defense gave up 304 yards and 17 points in just H1...and half a yard from 24. They did not play well enough in first half. And offense did not play well in 2nd half. Overall that's a full game of one side not playing winning football...vs the #3 team on the road lol cmon. And the OL had a FULL game of terrible play. No chance.

 

[pharmDvol11]

Well lets examine the O line played. They could not open a hole for 2 good running backs. We had -1 yds rushing. On pass plays most of the time there were more Dawgs in our back field than Vols. I am not saying the turnovers was not JG's fault. But he is not the one that was supposed to be blocking the Dawgs that caused the turnovers. If you can't see that I can't help you understand it.

Even after your examination I feel like you and I are saying roughly the same thing about the offensive line. I think you are saying that the offensive line has to win the matchup up front to win the game. While I think that is an important part of the team’s success, I am also saying that in Top 10 matchups it’s rarely the case that an offensive line dominates for 4 quarters. I saw several games on Saturday and Sunday both that proves my point. Top teams give up sacks, generate little to no running game and the offense has to find a window in the defense and exploit it. We actually did that very well in the first half. But some things happened in the second half. One of those things was obvious. It was a little bit noticeable in the first half. It’s even been something you’ve seen this season. You’ve also seen it last year and the year before that. You and I both know what it is and it’s the position we’ve been the most dependent on to win important games. Look: the staff can rotate as many offensive lineman as you want and can coach them up. I think they were already doing that this season up until last Saturday. But you and I both know that hasn’t fixed all of our probably once the ball is snapped. So does fixing the offensive line fix all of our problems? My answer as it’s been for the last several years now is no way

 

[Proud Army Wife]

Honestly I'd have to say it would be more likely they'd hire Gruden than Freeze. Could've got Freeze on the cheap but the 'ethical' those pesky issues got in the way.

Nothing wrong with hope, though.

Depends on your definition of likely. I don't think Gruden would have ever even considered the job. Freeze on the other hand probably would, but I agree that the UT admin would probably never allow it. Same reasons for not trying to get Kendall Briles, yet both FSU, and Arkansas weren't afraid to hire him.

 

[Mccage]

What are you even trying to say? You think Maurer and Shrout were waiving off first ream reps in the spring of 2019? "No you take them JG, we're just going to sit over here and drink Powerade with Cimaglia".

What are you talking about? I was answering the statement that Said and I QUOTE "100 % utter lack of the qb's development is squarely on the staff"

 

[m1al]

Depends on your definition of likely. I don't think Gruden would have ever even considered the job. Freeze on the other hand probably would, but I agree that the UT admin would probably never allow it. Same reasons for not trying to get Kendall Briles, yet both FSU, and Arkansas weren't afraid to hire him.

I agree on Gruden. I guess I should've prefaced with "in a perfect world".. haaa.

Also agree with you on the 'fear factor' involved with Briles and Freeze. Lot of that goin around these days...

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Welp I guess Pruitt isnt a legitimate coach because JG is the starter.

 

[Mccage]

Coach 100% has to ability to evaluate the Qb’s performances in practices and games. Time to see if the other guys can do better. Maurer and JT first. At least give them game time reps. If they are worse than JG then bring JG back in permanently until HB is ready if he will ever be. I’m not talking about starting them but let them have a few plays or a series. If one or both do well , go with them.

Evaluate yes butread what was said. "100% LACK OF DEVELOPMENT IS SQUARELY ON THE STAFF." big difference in evaluating
.

 

[Proud Army Wife]

I agree on Gruden. I guess I should've prefaced with "in a perfect world".. haaa.

Also agree with you on the 'fear factor' involved with Briles and Freeze. Lot of that goin around these days...

Lol, ok, let's say in this perfect world Gruden did end up the HC. Do you think he would've been as or more successful?

 

[Vol524]

Even after your examination I feel like you and I are saying roughly the same thing about the offensive line. I think you are saying that the offensive line has to win the matchup up front to win the game. While I think that is an important part of the team’s success, I am also saying that in Top 10 matchups it’s rarely the case that an offensive line dominates for 4 quarters. I saw several games on Saturday and Sunday both that proves my point. Top teams give up sacks, generate little to no running game and the offense has to find a window in the defense and exploit it. We actually did that very well in the first half. But some things happened in the second half. One of those things was obvious. It was a little bit noticeable in the first half. It’s even been something you’ve seen this season. You’ve also seen it last year and the year before that. You and I both know what it is and it’s the position we’ve been the most dependent on to win important games. Look: the staff can rotate as many offensive lineman as you want and can coach them up. I think they were already doing that this season up until last Saturday. But you and I both know that hasn’t fixed all of our probably once the ball is snapped. So does fixing the offensive line fix all of our problems? My answer as it’s been for the last several years now is no way

I am not saying GJ is great. I wouldn't even say he is good. But, I can't say he played worse than the O line did. Our 5* O line did not show up Saturday. I don't expect them to block everyone on every play. But, they stunk on Saturday. They got schooled and ran over. I would have like to seen their pride kick in but it didn't. I think the QB gets to much credit when the Offense plays good and I know he gets to much blame when it plays bad. That is the nature of the position.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Lol, ok, let's say in this perfect world Gruden did end up the HC. Do you think he would've been as or more successful?

I don’t know why people keep bringing up Gruden. He has always been an NFL guy and would have taken a college position many years ago if he was interested. Plus he would be a big question mark in a college environment. NFL success and college success are two different animals, ask Saban.

 

[Proud Army Wife]

I don’t know why people keep bringing up Gruden. He has always been an NFL guy and would have take a college position many years ago if he was interested. Plus he would be a big question mark in a college environment. NFL success and college success are two different animals, ask Saban.

No, I know this. I was just asking m1al for his opinion for $h!ts and giggles.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

And you believe in your heart that the OL played to their ability against Georgia?

If you do your lying to yourself.

Never stated they played well but the deck was stacked against them no matter how well they played.

 

[BeardedVol]

What are you talking about? I was answering the statement that Said and I QUOTE "100 % utter lack of the qb's development is squarely on the staff"

100 % huh....so the QB has no input into his own development....wow didn't know that

So what input are you envisioning a QB having, in how the staff, does or doesn't develop them, outside of choosing to come to the school?

 

[m1al]

Lol, ok, let's say in this perfect world Gruden did end up the HC. Do you think he would've been as or more successful?

Oh my.. Put me on the spot..

Given the resouces and control (see Nick Saban), I would say yes.

 

[m1al]

No, I know this. I was just asking m1al for his opinion for $h!ts and giggles.

one of my favorites...

 

[Proud Army Wife]

Oh my.. Put me on the spot..

Given the resouces and control (see Nick Saban), I would say yes.

Mmk. If you could hire any coach (has to be alive) who would it be? Personally, I'd throw my checkbook at Urban Meyer and tell him to name his price. I know he's got his skeletons but this is "what-ifs" and morals don't count.

 

[Rooster1]

Bob Stoops over Urban disaster imo, Urban has accumulated too much baggage and his longevity anywhere is not very long given age and track record....stoops can still coach...has gas left in tank also

 

[Volfaninfl2]

Maurer might have been just a true freshman, but still has/had a propensity to turn the ball over that JG does not. Unfortunately relative judgments don't matter when you're actually playing the game. I know watching JG play is incredibly frustrating, but I'm not sure the outcome of any loss we've had would be any different, except probably the BYU game.

I know this is a break that you won't give Pruitt, but neither Shrout nor Maurer were highly recruited guys, and they came on at a time where it was going to be difficult for Pruitt to recruit just due to previous staff turnover. The early returns are poor, and their failure to play the transfer portal for a QB has been disappointing, but I won't totally write them off as being unable to develop a QB if Bailey/Salter are busts or never see the field. They'll truly have no excuse at that point.

VolQuest - QB Brian Maurer sees recruitment ramp up after Elite 11 performance

 

[Mccage]

So what input are you envisioning a QB having, in how the staff, does or doesn't develop them, outside of choosing to come to the

I think we must be barking up 2 different trees...

Development to me means Film study, weight room, working on throws, diet, working on weaknesses, learning playbook etc. The coaches have to develop and teach but they aint going to hold your hand

Evaluation on the other hand is 100% up to the Coaches and I hope since their jobs are on the line they make the choice WHO their best player is WHO gives them the chance to win.

 

[m1al]

Mmk. If you could hire any coach (has to be alive) who would it be? Personally, I'd throw my checkbook at Urban Meyer and tell him to name his price. I know he's got his skeletons but this is "what-ifs" and morals don't count.

Now why you got to limit me to just coaches that are alive....

As much as I do not like Meyer, throwing out all the other, as you said, he'd be a hell of a choice. Like him better than Saban. Meyer's team are more fun to watch. Dabo, seems to know what he's doing also and there's not much, if any, of that other stuff to throw out. One other option since we're using play money in a perfect world, Mullen combined with Pruitt as DC would be pretty strong too.

 

[GVol1966]

First two games they did.

No they didn’t, the played ok against lesser competition, and that’s all. Nothing more.

 

[Proud Army Wife]

Now why you got to limit me to just coaches that are alive....

As much as I do not like Meyer, throwing out all the other, as you said, he'd be a hell of a choice. Like him better than Saban. Meyer's team are more fun to watch. Dabo, seems to know what he's doing also and there's not much, if any, of that other stuff to throw out. One other option since we're using play money in a perfect world, Mullen combined with Pruitt as DC would be pretty strong too.

Because choosing Bear or Majors would be too obvious lol. I wouldn't pick Saban cause yeah he wouldn't be as exciting plus he's at retirement age. I wouldn't pick Dabo because I don't think anything would lure him from Clemson. Mullen with Pruitt would be good, but Mullen isn't a good enough recruiter for my liking. An Urban Meyer coached team with Kiffin at OC and Pruitt at DC would be unstoppable

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

No they didn’t, the played ok against lesser competition, and that’s all. Nothing more.

Silly take. They played well and our rushing yards prove it. They were both SEC schools, you don’t discount them when you are evaluating performances. Does Georgia’s D disregard their performance against Tenn. because we are lesser competition?

 

[m1al]

Because choosing Bear or Majors would be too obvious lol. I wouldn't pick Saban cause yeah he wouldn't be as exciting plus he's at retirement age. I wouldn't pick Dabo because I don't think anything would lure him from Clemson. Mullen with Pruitt would be good, but Mullen isn't a good enough recruiter for my liking. An Urban Meyer coached team with Kiffin at OC and Pruitt at DC would be unstoppable

Meyer, Kiffin and Pruitt wiuld be strong if they could all play well together, but I don't think Meyer's and Kiffin's egos would fit in Neyland Stadium at the same time..