If SMU gets booted from the playoffs,

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TheVolsFrog said:
Don’t care. The committee shouldn’t have ranked them as high as they are if they’re gonna say oh well we’re going to put this 3 lost lower rank team in over you because you were good enough to play in a conference championship but lost by a 56 yrd FG.

If you’re going to rank these weaker teams high then don’t punish them.

The whole problem with the CFP is all conferences aren’t equal yet they’re being ranked as if they are.
Until cross conference play is required this will continue to happen and auto bids getting a bye needs to go away. Your rank determines if you get a bye.
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Spot on!
 
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I don't get how so many can admit that SMU didn't play anybody, but yet they deserve to be in the play offs.....based on ? beating other weak teams ? I don't think teams that play a weak schedule should be rewarded. And i don't see how the conference game loss should not count in the final consideration for who gets in. A loss is a loss. Teams should just play patsy teams and go undefeated and be assured a play off spot?
 
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sami said:
Totally agree. The most comical national media takes are those thinking this is some kind of March Madness where you'll see a Cinderella run. Apples and oranges. In CBB, a hot shooter or a team with a difficult scheme to play against can overcome better talent in one game, but in CFB talent and depth win out 95% of the time.

I would honestly prefer it if the SEC played a 10-game conference schedule and then had their own four-team playoff and crowned a champion. I don't need to see any of the rest of CFB, to be honest.
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Yes, this times a million. I would be ok with the top four SEC and top four Big 10. With the top four in the SEC playing the top four in the Big 10 in the first round. It would continue to prove to those arrogant northerners that want to deny SEC IS KING! That scenario would have 3 or 4 teams in the semi finals every year!!! LOL
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
We can argue this all day long. It settled now anyway. The teams SMU played with a pulse beat them. They struggled against many without a pulse. After this year what I’ve decided is 12 teams is to much in my opinion. Damn sure don’t need 16. Already to many in that have absolutely 0 chance.
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We shall see. It hasn't played out this year yet. I am saying no team should get a bye. They should do 8 teams or 16. We will see how competitive Boise, Clemson, ASU, and SMU are this year. I for one think at least two of the four are going to do better than some think. Hell, who would have thought Northern Illinois would ever compete with Notre Dame. Yes, it was one game. But, so are the playoffs when it comes to being ELIMINATED!!!
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Not vandy but I didn't think Alabama would win a road game in Norman. I don't think anyone thought Vanderbilt would be as good as they were.
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So when OU was sitting at 5-5 with only 1 SEC win and Bama had outscored their last three opponents, two of them ranked teams, by a combined score of 128-20, you honestly thought Bama would lose coming off of a tune up game against Mercer?
 
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89 VOLS grad said:
This isn't about hatred toward Bama. It is about a team with 11 wins that got beat by two ranked teams by 3 points, one in the conference championship not being booted out by a team with 3 losses that got CURBSTOMPED vs the 13TH RANKED TEAM IN THE CONFERENCE. By the way, that team also didn't reach the end zone ONE TIME!!! If it were any other team besides Bama, most would feel the same way. It just makes it better for us that dislike Bama that it is them. Especially after they have been the beloved and favored team by the refs and the commissioners for many years!!!
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I hate em to. I’m also trying to be logical. SMU has 0 good wins. I don’t think we truly believe SMU would beat bama. Doesn’t matter. SMU is in. We will watch them get pounded by someone in a game not worth watching.
 
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volfeeva said:
I don't get how so many can admit that SMU didn't play anybody, but yet they deserve to be in the play offs.....based on ? beating other weak teams ? I don't think teams that play a weak schedule should be rewarded. And i don't see how the conference game loss should not count in the final consideration for who gets in. A loss is a loss. Teams should just play patsy teams and go undefeated and be assured a play off spot?
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It isn't all about who beat who? If that were the case, Clemson would probably be out and Penn State and Texas would be ranked toward the bottom of the 12. If you aren't going to penalize those three, how do you penalize SMU for playing a weak schedule. At least they lost 2 games (one being their conference championship) by a FG. For the last time, BAMA GOT CURB STOMPED BY A 13TH RANKED SEC TEAM and DIDN'T SCORE ONE TD!!!
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I hate em to. I’m also trying to be logical. SMU has 0 good wins. I don’t think we truly believe SMU would beat bama. Doesn’t matter. SMU is in. We will watch them get pounded by someone in a game not worth watching.
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No one can deny Bama beat UGA, no one! No one can deny that SMU lost vs two top 25 teams with them losing to both by 3. No one can guarantee SMU will do better than Bama in the playoffo. But, don't act like you defending Bama can guarantee Bama would have done better in the playoff either! Any team that can spy on Milroe and limit Bama's ground game has a chance to beat Bama right now. You can't argue that point!

The AP, Coaches Poll, and CFP are the ones that can be blamed for ranking SMU so high prior to championship weekend. Many here are saying SMU didn't deserve to go home while a 3 loss team that got curb stomped two weeks ago by the 13th ranked SEC team gets to make the playoff, period. In my opinion, the MORE DESERVED TEAM GOT IN THE PLAYOFF. That doesn't mean they will do better than Bama would have. But, it isn't a guarantee they will do worse than Bama may have done either.
 
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89 VOLS grad said:
No one can deny Bama beat UGA, no one! No one can deny that SMU lost vs two top 25 teams with them losing to both by 3. No one can guarantee SMU will do better than Bama in the playoffo. But, don't act like you defending Bama can guarantee Bama would have done better in the playoff either! Any team that can spy on Milroe and limit Bama's ground game has a chance to beat Bama right now. You can't argue that point!

The AP, Coaches Poll, and CFP are the ones that can be blamed for ranking SMU so high prior to championship weekend. Many here are saying SMU didn't deserve to go home while a 3 loss team that got curb stomped two weeks ago by the 13th ranked SEC team gets to make the playoff, period. In my opinion, the MORE DESERVED TEAM GOT IN THE PLAYOFF. That doesn't mean they will do better than Bama would have. But, it isn't a guarantee they will do worse than Bama may have done either.
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It shouldn't be out the most deserving teams. It should be about the best teams. Is SMU a better team than Alabama ? Does SMU have better athletes than Alabama ? Would SMU be favored against Alabama ?
 
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Flipdaddy said:
Capable of beating anybody? I respectively disagree unless Nico starts throwing on time and in front of the receivers, unless Sampson quits fumbling on the first successful drive, we quit calling the same 5 plays, not having multiple drops against good teams, offensive getting too far downfield when the play gets extended.

These are things that we cannot correct for some reason. Sorry but that’s just the way it is. I watched several of these playoff teams and they appear to run 25 different plays on offense. That’s hard to defend. Our 5 plays are hard to defend if we consistently connect on the deep ball and we are not.
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I have been saying this all year. UT hasn't proved at all to be world beaters on D against a great QB nor on O with a NON EXISTING DEEP THREAT. I hope we don't get our hearts broken quick. If UT can't fix those two issues and STOP BEING ONE OF THE MOST PENALIZED TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY, UT is going to have a tough time in Columbus and may get curb stomped in the Rose Bowl should UT make it that far!
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
So when OU was sitting at 5-5 with only 1 SEC win and Bama had outscored their last three opponents, two of them ranked teams, by a combined score of 128-20, you honestly thought Bama would lose coming off of a tune up game against Mercer?
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Sure did. I can go back and link you if you want to see. Can also show you my fandual account. It's all about matchups and bama is a bad matchup for OUs run defense. If you watched Bama, you'd see they struggled with teams that stopped the run. OU was trash but their run defense was good. Factor in a night game in Norman and a one dimensional Bama offense, I had OU at least covering because I knew Bama wasn't covering that spread. SMU wouldn't stop Bama. The only time Bama wasn't predictable was against Geoegia. JM played out of his mind in the first half.
 
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Volsfan2424 said:
It shouldn't be out the most deserving teams. It should be about the best teams. Is SMU a better team than Alabama ? Does SMU have better athletes than Alabama ? Would SMU be favored against Alabama ?
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Everyone knows SMU doesn't have better athletes than Bama. How many times has a UT team had better athletes and lost? Again, there isn't a guarantee that Bama would beat SMU with the way they got curb stomped vs the 13th ranked SEC team and didn't score ONE TD. I am done trying to rationalize with the irrational. Arguments can be made both ways. It comes down to a regular season ACC champion that lost in the conference championship at the horn by a 50 yard plus FG getting in over a 3 loss team WITH A GREAT HISTORY OF SUCCESS that ISN'T THE SAME TEAM WITH THE SAME COACH ANYMORE! Again, you don't know how SMU will do nor how Bama would have done!
 
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Flipdaddy said:
Capable of beating anybody? I respectively disagree unless Nico starts throwing on time and in front of the receivers, unless Sampson quits fumbling on the first successful drive, we quit calling the same 5 plays, not having multiple drops against good teams, offensive getting too far downfield when the play gets extended.

These are things that we cannot correct for some reason. Sorry but that’s just the way it is. I watched several of these playoff teams and they appear to run 25 different plays on offense. That’s hard to defend. Our 5 plays are hard to defend if we consistently connect on the deep ball and we are not.
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Are we overrated then? Where would you rank us if you had a vote?
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
I saw an interview with SEC Commish Sankey yesterday and he said that he proposed a realignment of seedings after the first round of the playoffs but it got shot down. Seems like a good idea to me.
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Anyone think Slive or Kramer (best of all SEC commissioners, imo) would have settled for this or some of the other considerations granted for the "greater good" of CFB???
 
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Volsfan2424 said:
It shouldn't be out the most deserving teams. It should be about the best teams. Is SMU a better team than Alabama ? Does SMU have better athletes than Alabama ? Would SMU be favored against Alabama ?
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With how the "ball bounced" w/ the late season games, SMU had to be the choice. Based on "best teams", you have to also factor in the fact that Bama did have two relatively bad losses. Can't do this based on "talent on paper"...to me, the optics that it was "bama" as last one out, should have been South Carolina...if they based it upon how they've chosen teams over last few years. Losing so badly to OK on next to last game of year was the disqualifier, whereas SC won their last 6 games.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I hate em to. I’m also trying to be logical. SMU has 0 good wins. I don’t think we truly believe SMU would beat bama. Doesn’t matter. SMU is in. We will watch them get pounded by someone in a game not worth watching.
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Do you work or interact with anyone who cry’s Crimson? If you do like many haters of the Tide l, you would get our point. Their argument even after getting beat by Oklahoma is that they deserve to be in. With them not making the playoffs is another win in the win column in my opinion. Army should have been in the conversation if no one wanted to hurt SMU or the Gumps feelings. You and the other Sabanites can go smash cushions while we run the table. GBO
 
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Since Georgia got punished for losing the SEC Championship Game by 3 points last year, I would have been ok with SMU missing the playoffs this year. I mean Georgia was undefeated going into the SEC Championship Game last year and got screwed.
 
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Coy53175 said:
Do you work or interact with anyone who cry’s Crimson? If you do like many haters of the Tide l, you would get our point. Their argument even after getting beat by Oklahoma is that they deserve to be in. With them not making the playoffs is another win in the win column in my opinion. Army should have been in the conversation if no one wanted to hurt SMU or the Gumps feelings. You and the other Sabanites can go smash cushions while we run the table. GBO
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You realize saban no longer coaches? Army? lol. Just goes to show 12 teams is a few to many.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Are we overrated then? Where would you rank us if you had a vote?
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No, we were just lucky to get out of Alabama and Florida game without a loss. Thankfully we made the plays to win it like the sack In overtime against Florida and the interception by Brooks against Alabama. If not we are 8-4 and headed to the taxslayer bowl.

My point is that with our inconsistencies, we may get exposed first game. I’m giving the nod to Tennessee against Ohio state. Josh is putting us in positions to win, the offense stalling out is killing us. Never….never should’ve lost to Arkansas. We are lucky to be where we are at BUT it’s a good sign. Tennessee is finally finding ways to win instead of lose in most circumstances.

Where would I rank us? Hmmm about where we are I guess. It’s not that we shouldn’t be in the playoffs, I just think that we are in the bottom 3 of the 12. Are we better than South Carolina right now? Maybe not. Don’t get me wrong, we beat Ohio state to play Oregon? Huge success!
 
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Volsfan2424 said:
It shouldn't be out the most deserving teams. It should be about the best teams. Is SMU a better team than Alabama ? Does SMU have better athletes than Alabama ? Would SMU be favored against Alabama ?
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Then stop ranking those teams high. You can’t rank someone top 10 then say oh they didn’t play anyone so now we punish them

Like I said. Until they decide to do something about the farce that all conferences are equal this will continue and while I’m at it ND should be required to be in a conference in order to play for the Natty
 
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TheVolsFrog said:
Then stop ranking those teams high. You can’t rank someone top 10 then say oh they didn’t play anyone so now we punish them

Like I said. Until they decide to do something about the farce that all conferences are equal this will continue and while I’m at it ND should be required to be in a conference in order to play for the Natty
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They aren't going to do anything about this. The Big Ten is loving it and they are bullying Sankey. Honestly I can't seem to find any tears to shed for Sankey and the SEC.

Maybe it is way past time time to move the SEC office out of Birmingham, elect a new commish and start caring more about the SEC as a whole conference, instead of a few teams.
 
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