If There Is Indeed Mutual Interest Between Frank and UT...

#26
#26
If Frank wants to come here, make it happen. Otherwise, Gregg Marshall or Shaka Smart should be plan B and C.
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#27
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kingvol said:
Is Frank waiting to see if Rivers is going to leave and he may have a shot at the Boston job? Personally don't think Rivers is leaving, just curious to see what some people think.
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The uncle of that QB who shall not be named, prefers to hire someone with NBA playing experience, that is the rumor.
With that, Frank is out.
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#28
#28
Here's my question about Frank and let me say he's the guy I want just curious. Should we be worried about an early exit? Listen, I realize there's a good chance he could be a three years and gone guy(and I'm ok with that) but I don't know if we need another Lane Kiffin. And what I mean by that is a guy who there's even the slightest possibility he could leave after one year. I figure the NBA is most likely where he wants to be correct? What if he has moderate success and the Celtics come calling or any NBA team for that matter? I figure any less than 3 years and I'd rather take a chance with someone else. What's the likelihood that happens? Maybe none. Just curious.
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#29
#29
With all the above said I agree that if he's interested we need to do what it takes to get him to Knoxville.
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#30
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kingvol said:
Is Frank waiting to see if Rivers is going to leave and he may have a shot at the Boston job? Personally don't think Rivers is leaving, just curious to see what some people think.
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Yes and if he was to take the Tennessee job and in a year or two they offer him the Boston job then here we go again. No on Frank.
 
#31
#31
Kevin O'Neill part 2. Come play for an angry Guy who is the size of your 12 old brother. He will dog cuss you every day but he did play a big role in a failed tennessee basketball team.


The revisionist history about the nets is absurd. Point me to 3 coaches ever who had their first NBA job with more talent on the roster than Frank.

Frank took the same roster that scott took to the finals and couldn't win the east. So after a few years management let the unhappy superstars who were not getting a ring under Frank go. The nets then sucked.

Brad Stevens is winning with leas talent than people he is playing against
Given Franks cactus of a personality I would not feel as awful about the hire if he could win with less
Doc Rivers said Frank would struggle in living rooms. Many a truth is spoken in jest.
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#32
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VolWoman said:
(Tyler Smith sat out a year so we know kids do it when they're that unhappy).
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no he didn't - he got a waiver, but I see your point. However, kids are less and less likely to sit out a year these days, esp top 50 players like Jones and Ware.
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#33
#33
What if Franks interest is just to get Rivers or the Celtics to say one way or another about his or Rivers future? He could be using UT like some other coaches do to get a raise..... only with him, it's information/commitment from the Boston organization.
 
#34
#34
There me be some fellow named Ainge, with some sort of history with UT, that may just let him out of his contact.

Or he could sexually harass Big Baby and get fired.
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#35
#35
Don't get the love for Frank. Because he was here under KO? I haven't heard other schools mention him as prominently as we have. Why do we want a coach who might just be here 3 years. If he gets us on track but leaves in 3 years for the NBA the program will still be unsteady (less the penalties) again with another coaching change. I'd rather have someone who loves the college level and UT. Has he shown an interest in getting back to the college ranks until now?

If he was that great of an NBA coach the first time wouldn't he still be a head coach? A couple of regular season winning streaks is his claim to fame? Just because he has been a coach in the NBA doesn't translate to the college level.

Having great talent in college is a must. So do we know if this guy can recruit? What is his recruiting background under K O? We didn't have much talent when those two were here last time.
 
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Orange Bison said:
Don't get the love for Frank. Because he was here under KO? I haven't heard other schools mention him as prominently as we have. Why do we want a coach who might just be here 3 years. If he gets us on track but leaves in 3 years for the NBA the program will still be unsteady (less the penalties) again with another coaching change. I'd rather have someone who loves the college level and UT. Has he shown an interest in getting back to the college ranks until now?

If he was that great of an NBA coach the first time wouldn't he still be a head coach? A couple of regular season winning streaks is his claim to fame? Just because he has been a coach in the NBA doesn't translate to the college level.

Having great talent in college is a must. So do we know if this guy can recruit? What is his recruiting background under K O? We didn't have much talent when those two were here last time.
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If he does a lot of good things at UT and leaves after three years, we're again in a position where we're even more attractive to new hires than we were before.

He still isn't an NBA coach, but a lot of people think he's next in line for the Celtics job. They wouldn't think that if people didn't have a lot of respect for him.

I had been under the impression that KO brought in a lot of talent that Jerry Green then took advantage of. Is that in error?
 
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Incipient said:
If he does a lot of good things at UT and leaves after three years, we're again in a position where we're even more attractive to new hires than we were before.

He still isn't an NBA coach, but a lot of people think he's next in line for the Celtics job. They wouldn't think that if people didn't have a lot of respect for him.

I had been under the impression that KO brought in a lot of talent that Jerry Green then took advantage of. Is that in error?
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All good points. I just want someone longer term. Don't know how attractive it is to recruits with short term coaches.

I admit that I really don't know Frank's role with recruiting under KO or how responsible/influential he was in getting players. Green got players as well it wasn't just KO's talent.
 
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iuvol2012 said:
The level of idiocy that I see in the basketball forum regarding Lawrence Frank is just amazing to me. Guy is an amazing coach who was in a horrid situation in New Jersey.

UT should take this guy in a heartbeat if the interest is indeed mutual.

Just my opinion.
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Yet others have a differing opinion and raise the "level of idiocy" because they haven't jumped on the LF bandwagon yet and have questions or concerns about him running a college program or heading back to the NBA asap? Give me a break with this kind of bull****. Just my opinion...
 
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LawVol13 said:
I think if he thought there was any prayer that Rivers was leaving, he would have immediately denied any interest in the Tennessee job.
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You sure about this? Rivers was close to leaving last season, but agreed to come back for one last chance at a title run with that core. I think it's pretty known by NBA execs that he is leaving the sidelines next season to watch his son play in college and have time with this family.

EDIT: Also, I think people may be overstating Frank's value to the Celtics. I think he would be a great hire at Tennessee, and I think he is a great coach, but this is still the Boston Celtics we are talking about. It was once the ONE job that Coach K said he would leave Duke for (when the time was right in the past) just because of their history and the fact that he respected Red Auerbach so much. The Celtics won't have any trouble getting a great coach to lead their franchise once Doc Rivers does leave, and maybe they think they can find better than Lawrence Frank? I just don't think he is a shoe-in like some here seem to imply.
 
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LazhilUT said:
The uncle of that QB who shall not be named, prefers to hire someone with NBA playing experience, that is the rumor.
With that, Frank is out.
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So basically, someone in the Ainge family will actually do something to help Tennessee?
 
#45
#45
Get the best coach you can get. Don't worry about how long they will be here. Of all people, I can't believe UT basketball fans would worry about that. I mean Pearl was here 6 yrs, Buzz 4yrs,Green 4yrs, O'Neill 3yrs. It's not like this position has had long tenures lately.If Frank wants the job and we hire some mid major coach, I don't see why anyone would even want to go to a game this year. If you fire the greatest coach in program history, you had better make a darn good replacement if you want the fans to still be there.
 
#46
#46
Why do we need another Dooley. Lets just get someone who has already proved themselves.. Listen, I like Dooley before you judge me on this and I think he will do great, I just don't think he has proved himself just yet. So lets get someone who we know can good work.. If you got the money, the fans, and the facilities, anything is possible.
 
#47
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CameronGrizzy said:
Why do we need another Dooley. Lets just get someone who has already proved themselves.. Listen, I like Dooley before you judge me on this and I think he will do great, I just don't think he has proved himself just yet. So lets get someone who we know can good work.. If you got the money, the fans, and the facilities, anything is possible.
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LMFAO. Frank's resume is about 100 times better than Dooley's.
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#48
#48
Well I know that Frank had a big hand in getting the talent when KO was here... when KO arrived the talent was beyond bad and when he left the roster was ready to go for 4 straight NCAA tourney runs and and as far as Frank and the NETS go the years he was there the ownership was a mess with all the moving to Brooklyn nonsense hanging over the team
 
#49
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MTSUDaff said:
You sure about this? Rivers was close to leaving last season, but agreed to come back for one last chance at a title run with that core. I think it's pretty known by NBA execs that he is leaving the sidelines next season to watch his son play in college and have time with this family.

EDIT: Also, I think people may be overstating Frank's value to the Celtics. I think he would be a great hire at Tennessee, and I think he is a great coach, but this is still the Boston Celtics we are talking about. It was once the ONE job that Coach K said he would leave Duke for (when the time was right in the past) just because of their history and the fact that he respected Red Auerbach so much. The Celtics won't have any trouble getting a great coach to lead their franchise once Doc Rivers does leave, and maybe they think they can find better than Lawrence Frank? I just don't think he is a shoe-in like some here seem to imply.
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agreed.. good stuff.
 
#50
#50
You know, after sitting here thinking about Frank as a hire, why do we want to hire someone who ended his coaching career with a 0-16 start?? I do know that the ownership shipped off a bunch of his players, but if someone can coach, then he should have been able to win at least half of those games with his previous success. He also missed the playoffs the last two seasons before he was fired. If people are going to say that he can sell the NBA, then I'm sure that people will negative recruit the fact that he was a perennial loser the last three years he coached. I'm not saying that he couldn't win here, and I'm not saying that he couldn't recruit here, I'm just not convinced that he's better than any other candidate for the job right now.
 
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