If There Is Indeed Mutual Interest Between Frank and UT...

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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You know, after sitting here thinking about Frank as a hire, why do we want to hire someone who ended his coaching career with a 0-16 start?? I do know that the ownership shipped off a bunch of his players, but if someone can coach, then he should have been able to win at least half of those games with his previous success. He also missed the playoffs the last two seasons before he was fired. If people are going to say that he can sell the NBA, then I'm sure that people will negative recruit the fact that he was a perennial loser the last three years he coached. I'm not saying that he couldn't win here, and I'm not saying that he couldn't recruit here, I'm just not convinced that he's better than any other candidate for the job right now.
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That's not true at all. Have you looked at that roster? The guy made the playoffs 4 out of 6 years. And if that wasn't enough, he's lead assistant for one of the best teams in the NBA. That's plenty resume enough for me to coach at UT.
 
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LawVol13 said:
That's not true at all. Have you looked at that roster? The guy made the playoffs 4 out of 6 years. And if that wasn't enough, he's lead assistant for one of the best teams in the NBA. That's plenty resume enough for me to coach at UT.
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So, your saying that asking a guy who is a career .483 coach, to coach at his winning percentage is too much to ask??
 
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I love the idea that a guy should be able to hit .500 in the NBA with a roster that would be hard pressed to win consistently in Euroleague. Check Pat Riley's record the two seasons before Dwayne Wade arrived in Miami. Check out Doc Rivers before the trades for Garnett and Allen.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
So, your saying that asking a guy who is a career .483 coach, to coach at his winning percentage is too much to ask??
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Absolutely with that garbage roster he had. When Josh Boone is a starter, things aren't very good. And remind me, what was Cal's record with the Nets?
 
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ITSGR82BATNVOL said:
If there is mutual interest ? ... I'm confused... You personally have been posting for a week or longer that there was mutual interest and you even expected contact to be made this w/e between Frank and UT. Now you start a thread saying IF there is mutual interest. What gives? Were you just posting rumors of mutual interest before the latest news was made public ... personally hoping there was mutual interest...or posting info you thought was credible but apparently wasn't from another site. Just curious, as others here will be. Thanks
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Here you go...

Coaching search update: Belmont's Rick Byrd interviews with UT GoVolsXtra
 
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hatvol96 said:
I love the idea that a guy should be able to hit .500 in the NBA with a roster that would be hard pressed to win consistently in Euroleague. Check Pat Riley's record the two seasons before Dwayne Wade arrived in Miami. Check out Doc Rivers before the trades for Garnett and Allen.
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The East is the Euroleague though. It is trash, and the number 8 team in the Eastern conference this year is 10 games below .500 to get into the playoffs. If it isn't for the Big 4 in the East right now, it would be even worse.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
The East is the Euroleague though. It is trash, and the number 8 team in the Eastern conference this year is 10 games below .500 to get into the playoffs. If it isn't for the Big 4 in the East right now, it would be even worse.
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I guess Riley needs to call Springfield and tell them they need to rescind his induction. Same for Lenny Wilkens.
 
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This is PR attempt by Hamilton to make it seem the hole he dug for us isn't so deep. We'd be lucky to get MTSU's waterboy as our next bball coach.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Absolutely with that garbage roster he had. When Josh Boone is a starter, things aren't very good. And remind me, what was Cal's record with the Nets?
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Wait, what?? Your trying to compare Cal and Frank right now?? Exactly how many NCAA tourneys has Frank made compared to Cal?? Frank also only had one season where he won more games that Cal did in a season in NJ. Still, the Nets maybe a poor team to make a judgment on a coach, and I understand that, but you have to look at everything with all of this. Frank also hasn't recruited in like 10 years either, so I see that as an issue as well.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Wait, what?? Your trying to compare Cal and Frank right now?? Exactly how many NCAA tourneys has Frank made compared to Cal?? Frank also only had one season where he won more games that Cal did in a season in NJ. Still, the Nets maybe a poor team to make a judgment on a coach, and I understand that, but you have to look at everything with all of this. Frank also hasn't recruited in like 10 years either, so I see that as an issue as well.
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1) Yes, considering they both coached the Nets, I'd say somehow that's a fair comparison.

2.) If you think a guy that has been in the League for years now couldn't recruit high school kids but you tout Rick Byrd as a potential hire, then I don't even know what to say to you.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
After the Top 4 teams, you would be hard pressed to find any team in that conference that could beat the Grizzlies on a regular basis.
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And that means it's the Euroleague? Please. You're telling me a team with Carmelo Anthony and Stoudemire or a team with Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, and Jamal Crawford is going to get beaten by a Euroleague team?
 
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hatvol96 said:
I guess Riley needs to call Springfield and tell them they need to rescind his induction. Same for Lenny Wilkens.
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What does that have to do with the East being trash right now?? It used to be the dominant conference, but it switched about 7 or so years ago to the West. That doesn't detract from winning in the East, it's just not a good league. That's why you see a big drop-off from the 3 seed to a 5 seed in the East, and not so much in the West. Lenny Wilkens spent over half his time in the East, when it was dominant.
 
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LawVol13 said:
That's not true at all. Have you looked at that roster? The guy made the playoffs 4 out of 6 years. And if that wasn't enough, he's lead assistant for one of the best teams in the NBA. That's plenty resume enough for me to coach at UT.
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Some of these vatos on here don't get what Frank would bring to this program. The fact of all the NBA superstars he has coached....coached in the NBA playoffs....coached in the NBA Finals....would reel in the NBA level talent right out of high school to the VOLS because they would know this man could prep them for the next step....we would no longer be calling Big Fish recruits big fish because it would be the norm here...and he would make Cal and Billy sweat their man suits with his presence.

Plus he wants big time money and a long term deal from what I've read....sounds good to me.
 
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LawVol13 said:
And that means it's the Euroleague? Please. You're telling me a team with Carmelo Anthony and Stoudemire or a team with Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, and Jamal Crawford is going to get beaten by a Euroleague team?
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The East has had 3 NBA champions, since the last year that Jordan played for the Bulls. You tell me if it's that great of a league at this point, given it's success or lack thereof?? The East is making strides, but it's not quite there yet, and when Doc Rivers leaves Boston, it may make it a 3 team league, especially if the lose some more key players.
 
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LawVol13 said:
This is just stupid. It's the NBA. Come back and talk to me when Rick Byrd gets an NBA head job and holds it for 6 and a half years.
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I'm not saying that Frank did terrible at NJ, given what he had, but it's not like he set the world on fire. His best season they won 49 games and lost in the second round. All I'm trying to get across, is I don't think that Frank is our best option. He hasn't recruited in years, and we need someone who has been involved in the college game, or at least recently.
 
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Guys, I think this spat about which conference is better is pretty stupid. The bottom line there are probably only about 8 teams, 4 from each conference, that have a legit shot at winning a title. Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, and possibly Thunder in the west. Bulls, Celtics, Heat, and Magic in the east. The league is watered down, and we all know it.

The bottom line is Frank is a good coach, and his roster when he was with the Nets was garbage by the end of his tenure. Bottom line, he wouldn't be a respected assistant on a perennial title contender unless he was a good coach. Period.
 
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MTSUDaff said:
Guys, I think this spat about which conference is better is pretty stupid. The bottom line there are probably only about 8 teams, 4 from each conference, that have a legit shot at winning a title. Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, and possibly Thunder in the west. Bulls, Celtics, Heat, and Magic in the east. The league is watered down, and we all know it.

The bottom line is Frank is a good coach, and his roster when he was with the Nets was garbage by the end of his tenure. Bottom line, he wouldn't be a respected assistant on a perennial title contender unless he was a good coach. Period.
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Yet, there are plenty career asssistant coaches who are well respected and are great coaches, who never coach as a HC, in either college or the NBA. I don't think that Frank would leave the NBA anyways, but with Doc about to leave the Celtics, I'm sure that we will see if he's that great of a coach. Mainly because if he is, then I'm sure that Frank will just slide right in to the HC job. What if he doesn't though??
 
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