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CincyVol2 said:
That's a good point my only rebuttle would be

1. Roman isn't a head coach, I'm sure he'd like to become one and it's not happening in SF anytime soon

2. Shaw - Stanford would not match $3-$4million a year, they have never paid their coaches well and didn't fight very hard to keep Harbaugh.
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Rucker on 247 had a source saying Roman was very interested in taking the UT job and Rucker speculated he would take the job of offered.
 
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governmentmule said:
my fiends daughter is in high school over there,is it East or West he was sighted at ? there may be hope yet :)

i just don't see no way Tressel,should even be in the conversation about a HC job here,he can't coach for how many years ?
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I think they were at Kingsport DB/Maryville game, of my memory is right...so no help with the M'town east or west thing. Sorry. He just said the inlaws lived in he Morristown area...


As for Tressel, I agree that he needs to stay put right where he is...imo
 
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VOLout8 said:
I would list my hires in tiers. It is hard to rank them individually.

Tier 1:
Gary Patterson: If you threw the house at Gruden then turn around and throw the house at this guy. For less money than Gruden you could offer him something that he couldn't turn down. Plus give him whatever he wants to hire an elite staff.

Tier 2:
Butch Davis: Guy is a winner, and builds the talent. He can recruit, and recruit some more. No matter what happened on the field he would stock our roster with talent. That being said I think he is a good fit in the SEC as a coach. His NCAA stuff scares me.

Jimbo Fisher: Same feelings as Butch Davis.

Charlie Strong: I think he would struggle early on, but his ceiling is high IMO. He would be an ace recruiter, and I he seems like the kind of person people believe in. I think long term he would be the best in this group.

Tier 3:
Larry Fedora: Guy is a winner. He wins where ever he goes. For the price you would pay him you could give him the best staff in the country to make up for defensive issues, and recruiting.

If we miss on all of those I over pay for someone or hit the assistant coach ranks in the NFL. There is no scenario where I see Golden or Butch Jones as a good idea. I am also assuming Gundy isn't a legit option. He would clearly be #1 if so. Same for Shaw at Stanford.
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Informative post. The idea of Fedora is growing on me. What are YOUR thoughts on Greg Roman?
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
What exactly am I missing that would make Roman or Shaw a realistic candidate for this job?

I just don't see the Stanford to TN connections.

Roman was a finalist for Penn State last year but he is from NJ. Kinda makes sense. What lures him to TN that he couldn't get elsewhere?

Shaw is at his alma mater. Why leave? Aside from money which Stanford would probably match. Same goes for Gundy although he isn't on your list.
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I shared from a poster in another thread earlier...he said Roman's wife is from East Tn, and her family lives around Morristown. The poster said he spoke with the inlaws at a high scjool game and was told Roman really wanted the job...again, not claiming as gospel, just pasing along what I read. Sorry if I'm being redundant. LOL
 
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listen all you folks who are no go on gruden, we need a home hire for recruiting to get back to the top 25 none of the coaches mentioned in this thread can do that period. also how many of these fedora, roman, and others have beaten top sec talent???i am not 100% sold on gruden he has things that must be taken with extreme caution but so would these other lesser known coaches that you folks like...
 
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all these coaches in this thread are 2nd tier coaches most have barely been heard about until this past season other than butch davis, but i still don't think he is very good or he would have won the acc with unc when he was coach their even though they had all kinds of problems some of which he brought with him. these types of coaches are basically derek dooley's with maybe alittle better gameday management and decision making. they are nothing to write home about. Gruden might not be either but he is our ONLY chance at righting this sinking ship.
 
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govols105 said:
listen all you folks who are no go on gruden, we need a home hire for recruiting to get back to the top 25 none of the coaches mentioned in this thread can do that period. also how many of these fedora, roman, and others have beaten top sec talent???i am not 100% sold on gruden he has things that must be taken with extreme caution but so would these other lesser known coaches that you folks like...
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All those coaches have beaten as much SEC talent as these coaches that came to the SEC

Nick Saban (mich state) 34-24 Record
Urban Meyer (bowling green & utah) 39-8 Record
Mark Richt (FSU) (no head coaching experience)
Bobby Petrino (L'ville) 41-9 Record
Will Mushcamp (Texas) (no head coaching experience)
Kevin Sumlin (Houston) 35-17 Record
Les Miles (Oklahoma State) 28-21 Record


What's exactly your point?
 
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CincyVol2 said:
Kevin Sumlin - coached at Houston and never beat an SEC school....why in the heck did they hire him? Oh that's right to win at Alabama and have a Heisman QB his freshman year. The people acting like the SEC experience is the only way to get a good coach needs to come off their high horse.
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Agreed. I think the Gruden/ Stoops buzz is to salvage our 2013 recruiting class. So excluding those guys I think Jimbo Fisher would have the biggest splash coming from a notable school. But assuming Gruden isn't coming I want a guy who can build & sustain the program for years to come. I'd be happy with Strong or Patterson.
 
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PennVol said:
These coaching search threads are making me convinced we are a mediocre program, b/c these lists are flat out mediocre.
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These lists include coaches that may be available right now. They're largely the same lists that Auburn and Arky are working off of too. What do you want, lists of guys at top 10 programs that are NOT looking for jobs? Seems like a waste of time.
 
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When I tried to find what Shaw actually makes I found the article I read before that made me think Harbaugh was paid around 3 million. He was offered 3 million by Stanford, and took the 49'ers job at 5 million.

Shaw, 38, received a four-year contract. Although the terms were not released, his salary is substantially lower than the approximate $3 million-per-year deal that Stanford offered Jim Harbaugh before he left for the 49ers. Some of the savings, Bowlsby said, will be used to retain and hire assistant coaches.
 
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Brendan Murphy ‏@BMurphySports

BREAKING: Purdue has offered Butch Jones its head football coaching position, I've been able to confirm. Decision expected soon. #Boilers
 
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Shaw is tough. I initially thought that he would never leave Stanford because of his history at the school. However, if he is ambitious, he might really like a challenge. Plus, I did not realize that he made so little. Shaw would be my first target on this list. I like him because his teams always play tough. I think he could coach and be extremely successful in the SEC. He would have to give up the weather in California, but like I said, if he is ambitious and wants to advance his career, it really could work out. He seems like less of a gamble to me than any other candidate.

Charlie Strong scares me more than any of the others.
 
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spudvol said:
Brendan Murphy ‏@BMurphySports

BREAKING: Purdue has offered Butch Jones its head football coaching position, I've been able to confirm. Decision expected soon. #Boilers
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I like Butch Jones alot and think he is a great coach. He wins at a high level with mediocre talent at best. He only makes 1.575 million a year. Great get if Purdue can land him.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I like Butch Jones alot and think he is a great coach. He wins at a high level with mediocre talent at best. He only makes 1.575 million a year. Great get if Purdue can land him.
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Obviously, I live in Cincinnati - We don't want Butch Jones trust me. Big East football is a joke for a starter and maybe some of you forget last season was his best team by far with a record of 10-3 and the Vols squashed them 45-23. He would get swallowed in the SEC, just because Brian Kelly came from there...doesn't mean they'll all work out.

It would be great news to me if Butch got removed from the Vols list if he is on it
 
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