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[CincyVol2]

Urban Meyer was 17-6 at Bowling Green. Couldn't dominate a weak conference. Wtf was Utah thinking? Florida really dodged a bullet when he left before he could decimate their program with a third national title...

Undefeated for life or GTFO.

Exactly!! Urban Meyer had soooo much experience in the SEC before he came to Florida, how did that ever work out?

Nick Saban? He was from the Big 10 (Michigan State) - What was LSU thinking?

The stuff really is comical

 

[CincyVol2]

as much as I agree with what you were saying here...also got to look at it the other way as well. How many of the other candidates have won a Super Bowl?

I agree Jon Gruden would be a very good coach for Tennessee. I'm just saying how come no other coach in this search could turn around Tennessee but him? Everybody else would be a bad hire? Seriously!

We have listed plenty of examples of coaches who had no ties to the SEC and were winning at smaller schools before they got into the SEC and they took the conference by storm...yet Gruden has no ties, but would have all the answers?

 

[sayers316]

I agree Jon Gruden would be a very good coach for Tennessee. I'm just saying how come no other coach in this search could turn around Tennessee but him? Everybody else would be a bad hire? Seriously!

We have listed plenty of examples of coaches who had no ties to the SEC and were winning at smaller schools before they got into the SEC and they took the conference by storm...yet Gruden has no ties, but would have all the answers?

Gruden definitely has ties here, HOWEVER, I 100% agree with you, PLUS, its a WELL KNOWN fact that Gruden wants back in the NFL. Who is to say a good opportunity doesn't open up and he Kiffin's us? Wouldn't surprise me

 

[WildAsAMink]

Honestly, I dont know who I would really be excited about. I'd have liked Stoops but that was a dream...

I want someone with energy and passion that makes me believe in UT football again.

And come next fall, I want them to back everything up with some wins. I acknowledge that we're going to have a rough season but a bowl game would be nice.

I also prefer not to hear about robberies from pilot or fall into the UGA drug, alcohol, and gun violations....

Is it really too much to ask!?!?

 

[bnhunt]

For everyone that is actually being real about this situation and understands that Jon Gruden will not be the next coach at Tennesse, let's have honest conversations about the potential next coach and some realistic ideas. No post about luring Bob Stoops, Nick Saban or Bill Cowher. Hopefully, I'm not the only one on this board that's list doesn't include

Gruden, Cowher, Saban, Muschamp, etc...

Let's wake up and talk about some real candidates (these are in no paticular order)

1) Charlie Strong - Turned L'Ville right back around, strong ties in FLA with recruiting
2) Jimbo Fisher - say what you want he can recruit and has FSU back in the Top 15
3) Al Golden - Don't want him, has never done anything in my book
4) Gary Patterson - Set in his ways, kind of a mystery hire
5) Larry Fedora - He wins, love him or hate him
6) Greg Roman - Would be a huge get, knows the game
7) Jim Tressel - Seriously doubt it with the NCAA hanging over his head and ours
8) Shaw - Would be a big hire. Wins and has never gotten blown out
9) Chavis - Kinda late name, obviously Les Miles thinks he should be our coach

Butch Davis needs to be added to the list. A lot of the big boosters want him apparently and he allegedly has a letter from NCAA clearing him of any wrongdoing while at UNC.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Gruden definitely has ties here, HOWEVER, I 100% agree with you, PLUS, its a WELL KNOWN fact that Gruden wants back in the NFL. Who is to say a good opportunity doesn't open up and he Kiffin's us? Wouldn't surprise me

What if the major sticking point is the same one that Miami ran into with Gruden. What if Jon wants it in the deal his brother becomes the HC at UT if/when Jon leaves? I would hope Hart would break off talks with him if thats the case. Don't offer to give the man 50-80 million bucks and then give him an easy way out. JMO

 

[CincyVol2]

Gruden definitely has ties here, HOWEVER, I 100% agree with you, PLUS, its a WELL KNOWN fact that Gruden wants back in the NFL. Who is to say a good opportunity doesn't open up and he Kiffin's us? Wouldn't surprise me

Agreed. Gruden wants back in the NFL..I was saying he doesn't have SEC ties. I know about his ties to UT

 

[sayers316]

Agreed. Gruden wants back in the NFL..I was saying he doesn't have SEC ties. I know about his ties to UT

oh ok gotcha. My bad on that. In that case, Please exclude that part from my comment lol

 

[fryeguy93]

Most coaches at a big program (especially those repped by Sexton) is not coming to UT. The name has been dropped to garner more money, facilities or staff pay from their current school.

With this in mind Fisher, Stoops, Gundy, Mora are not really interested in coming to The Hill.

I think Golden, Fedora and Mullen are in diferent situations.

Golden has been upset about the situation he walked blind into at Miami. Unlike the knee-jerkers; I think Golden is a hell of a coach- especially with Xs and Os. This overall record thing is tainted by his first 2-seasons at Temple. I still don't understand why he is attacked with so much bile and venom on the message boards.

Fedora is similar, UNC is in poor condition right now. Like at the U, he is looking at the ACC devolving into a BigEast style basketball conference and Fedora is at the epicenter of that movement in the People's Republic of Chapel Hill. Southern Miss coaches automatically hope for SEC jobs. Would he leave CH after one-season?

Mullen knows there is a ceiling in Starkville. He likely hit that ceiling after game #7. There is little chance that MSU will be a championship coach until Bama and LSU finally implode. This would likely be another 5-years. I think he would prefer a Florida job and if Golden left, I think he would be candidate #1 in Coral Gables.

Butch Davis. He's older than most realize and he would likely hold the job for 5-6 years. He's actually a year younger than Fulmer is. The good news is, that this would likely be his last job. The bad news is, does this give Tennessee the needed stability?

Strong...I don't know where the Strong love is coming from. We know the Ville can be better than they are now. We've seen it. The Cards had an abysmal schedule and feasted early on. They have really stunk the last 2-weeks and will likely lose their 3rd straight this week. I don't think a coach should be disqualified for losing a few games but this program is hardly a juggernaut and striking fear throughout college football. Is interest in him due to race and how misconceptions that prep A-A athletes will naturally gravitate to him? This has been tried before at other schools and at UT in other sports and has been a failure. Players want to win. Race is secondary.

The coach will be from this list....

Fedora
Golden
Davis

I would not mind any of these three guys.

Golden is younger.
Davis is older.
Golden's ties are in northeast.
Fedora has Texas ties
Davis has South Florida
Golden will be most likely to leave for other job (Penn State)
Fedora has SEC experience (limited)
Davis has NFL experience and is the bigger name

 

[Smokeyshowl66]

Most coaches at a big program (especially those repped by Sexton) is not coming to UT. The name has been dropped to garner more money, facilities or staff pay from their current school.

With this in mind Fisher, Stoops, Gundy, Mora are not really interested in coming to The Hill.

I think Golden, Fedora and Mullen are in diferent situations.

Golden has been upset about the situation he walked blind into at Miami. Unlike the knee-jerkers; I think Golden is a hell of a coach- especially with Xs and Os. This overall record thing is tainted by his first 2-seasons at Temple. I still don't understand why he is attacked with so much bile and venom on the message boards.

Fedora is similar, UNC is in poor condition right now. Like at the U, he is looking at the ACC devolving into a BigEast style basketball conference and Fedora is at the epicenter of that movement in the People's Republic of Chapel Hill. Southern Miss coaches automatically hope for SEC jobs. Would he leave CH after one-season?

Mullen knows there is a ceiling in Starkville. He likely hit that ceiling after game #7. There is little chance that MSU will be a championship coach until Bama and LSU finally implode. This would likely be another 5-years. I think he would prefer a Florida job and if Golden left, I think he would be candidate #1 in Coral Gables.

Butch Davis. He's older than most realize and he would likely hold the job for 5-6 years. He's actually a year younger than Fulmer is. The good news is, that this would likely be his last job. The bad news is, does this give Tennessee the needed stability?

Strong...I don't know where the Strong love is coming from. We know the Ville can be better than they are now. We've seen it. The Cards had an abysmal schedule and feasted early on. They have really stunk the last 2-weeks and will likely lose their 3rd straight this week. I don't think a coach should be disqualified for losing a few games but this program is hardly a juggernaut and striking fear throughout college football. Is interest in him due to race and how misconceptions that prep A-A athletes will naturally gravitate to him? This has been tried before at other schools and at UT in other sports and has been a failure. Players want to win. Race is secondary.

The coach will be from this list....

Fedora
Golden
Davis

I would not mind any of these three guys.

Golden is younger.
Davis is older.
Golden's ties are in northeast.
Fedora has Texas ties
Davis has South Florida
Golden will be most likely to leave for other job (Penn State)
Fedora has SEC experience (limited)
Davis has NFL experience and is the bigger name

The only name on this list that meets the criteria that Hart mentioned in his PC is Butch Davis IMO. I'd actually see Davis as our version of what Spurrier has been for USCe. Would stabilize the program, recruit well and win consistently (but probably not SEC Championships or Nat'l Title contention). As is mentioned above probably a 5 - 6 year tenure at most due to age, so not a long term solution.

2 concerns with Davis worth watching. One he has had some health issues - actually a bout with cancer. Not a reason to avoid him, but worth keeping in mind. Secondly, the academic scandal at UNC is not going away. Even if he is cleared by the NCAA, I'm not sure the final story is fully written and as the pages continue to be turned, he could be implicated in a way that results in major show cause. Worse yet, who knows if he even understands what went wrong in the first place such that the same thing happens at UT.

I'd take Davis over any of these for his proven track record on the field and my belief he has the greatest upside of the one's mentioned. But he comes with a great deal of baggage (ie. risk).

 

[Wylo]

If Butch Davis is hired, my seats will be empty. Clearly the admin doesn't care about winning.

Butch has been run out of Cleveland and Chapel Hill for sucking or possible cheating.

No thanks.

 

[Spawn]

Most coaches at a big program (especially those repped by Sexton) is not coming to UT. The name has been dropped to garner more money, facilities or staff pay from their current school.

With this in mind Fisher, Stoops, Gundy, Mora are not really interested in coming to The Hill.

I think Golden, Fedora and Mullen are in diferent situations.

Golden has been upset about the situation he walked blind into at Miami. Unlike the knee-jerkers; I think Golden is a hell of a coach- especially with Xs and Os. This overall record thing is tainted by his first 2-seasons at Temple. I still don't understand why he is attacked with so much bile and venom on the message boards.

Fedora is similar, UNC is in poor condition right now. Like at the U, he is looking at the ACC devolving into a BigEast style basketball conference and Fedora is at the epicenter of that movement in the People's Republic of Chapel Hill. Southern Miss coaches automatically hope for SEC jobs. Would he leave CH after one-season?

Mullen knows there is a ceiling in Starkville. He likely hit that ceiling after game #7. There is little chance that MSU will be a championship coach until Bama and LSU finally implode. This would likely be another 5-years. I think he would prefer a Florida job and if Golden left, I think he would be candidate #1 in Coral Gables.

Butch Davis. He's older than most realize and he would likely hold the job for 5-6 years. He's actually a year younger than Fulmer is. The good news is, that this would likely be his last job. The bad news is, does this give Tennessee the needed stability?

Strong...I don't know where the Strong love is coming from. We know the Ville can be better than they are now. We've seen it. The Cards had an abysmal schedule and feasted early on. They have really stunk the last 2-weeks and will likely lose their 3rd straight this week. I don't think a coach should be disqualified for losing a few games but this program is hardly a juggernaut and striking fear throughout college football. Is interest in him due to race and how misconceptions that prep A-A athletes will naturally gravitate to him? This has been tried before at other schools and at UT in other sports and has been a failure. Players want to win. Race is secondary.

The coach will be from this list....

Fedora
Golden
Davis

I would not mind any of these three guys.

Golden is younger.
Davis is older.
Golden's ties are in northeast.
Fedora has Texas ties
Davis has South Florida
Golden will be most likely to leave for other job (Penn State)
Fedora has SEC experience (limited)
Davis has NFL experience and is the bigger name

You left out Jimbo Fisher. I'd take him as my first choice over the rest of your list. - Able to recruit Florida

Second would be Davis - National Championship and able to recruit Florida and NC.

Third would be Tressel - Although he has had trouble, he is a proven winner who is going to stay clean

 

[CincyVol2]

Third would be Tressel - Although he has had trouble, he is a proven winner who is going to stay clean

Confused

 

[UTvol1fn]

Fisher, Fedora, and Strong...one of those three.

 

[fryeguy93]

You left out Jimbo Fisher. I'd take him as my first choice over the rest of your list. - Able to recruit Florida

Second would be Davis - National Championship and able to recruit Florida and NC.

Third would be Tressel - Although he has had trouble, he is a proven winner who is going to stay clean

Fisher's not leaving FSU, just using UT rumor for raise, staff and facility upgrades that had been promised but not delivered so far.

Tressel and his Show-cause makes his hire an absolute impossibility. I actually believe he's madly overrated as well.

Davis did not technically will a national title. He built the Miami team and left suddenly for Browns the year before Canes would title. He built that team and cleaned up some of Ericsson's mess.

I think Fisher, Stoops and Gundy are even less likely than the "G Who Shall Not be Named"

 

[RockyTop85]

Most coaches at a big program (especially those repped by Sexton) is not coming to UT. The name has been dropped to garner more money, facilities or staff pay from their current school.

With this in mind Fisher, Stoops, Gundy, Mora are not really interested in coming to The Hill.

I think Golden, Fedora and Mullen are in diferent situations.

Golden has been upset about the situation he walked blind into at Miami. Unlike the knee-jerkers; I think Golden is a hell of a coach- especially with Xs and Os. This overall record thing is tainted by his first 2-seasons at Temple. I still don't understand why he is attacked with so much bile and venom on the message boards.

Fedora is similar, UNC is in poor condition right now. Like at the U, he is looking at the ACC devolving into a BigEast style basketball conference and Fedora is at the epicenter of that movement in the People's Republic of Chapel Hill. Southern Miss coaches automatically hope for SEC jobs. Would he leave CH after one-season?

Mullen knows there is a ceiling in Starkville. He likely hit that ceiling after game #7. There is little chance that MSU will be a championship coach until Bama and LSU finally implode. This would likely be another 5-years. I think he would prefer a Florida job and if Golden left, I think he would be candidate #1 in Coral Gables.

Butch Davis. He's older than most realize and he would likely hold the job for 5-6 years. He's actually a year younger than Fulmer is. The good news is, that this would likely be his last job. The bad news is, does this give Tennessee the needed stability?

Strong...I don't know where the Strong love is coming from. We know the Ville can be better than they are now. We've seen it. The Cards had an abysmal schedule and feasted early on. They have really stunk the last 2-weeks and will likely lose their 3rd straight this week. I don't think a coach should be disqualified for losing a few games but this program is hardly a juggernaut and striking fear throughout college football. Is interest in him due to race and how misconceptions that prep A-A athletes will naturally gravitate to him? This has been tried before at other schools and at UT in other sports and has been a failure. Players want to win. Race is secondary.

The coach will be from this list....

Fedora
Golden
Davis

I would not mind any of these three guys.

Golden is younger.
Davis is older.
Golden's ties are in northeast.
Fedora has Texas ties
Davis has South Florida
Golden will be most likely to leave for other job (Penn State)
Fedora has SEC experience (limited)
Davis has NFL experience and is the bigger name

I agree with you on Gundy.
I don't know specifically about Fisher.

Mora I disagree with. Apparently UCLA is in the same financial condition we are and may not be able to raise enough Booster money to give Mora the money we would. Being able to offer more $ is going to get us the ability to get beyond Sexton and talk to Mora. I think he's a legit candidate more so than Miles to Arkansas ever was.

 

[Remy]

Butch Davis' name has surfaced. Thoughts?

As soon as my projectile vomiting ends, I'll let you know.

 

[governmentmule]

Yea, the poster said he spoke with Roman's inlaws at a high school game. But, this is as far as my "insider info" goes...thus the reason I don't get to start threads...but just lay in the weeds and poke dogs with a stick. LOL.

my fiends daughter is in high school over there,is it East or West he was sighted at ? there may be hope yet

i just don't see no way Tressel,should even be in the conversation about a HC job here,he can't coach for how many years ?

 

[deckerkd]

Flame away but if its going to be Golden I would have just rather kept Dooley

Flame hell I agree. They are basically twins

 

[deckerkd]

After Gruden, Fisher and Patterson are the obvious second choices. I don't know what to believe about Fisher but from what I've read about Patterson, it would be mighty tough pulling him from TCU. I personally don't see Mora Jr. leaving UCLA after one year.

If you have to go past these guys, Strong, Fedora then Golden. I don't know anything about Greg Roman.

Guys with NCAA issues (Tressel, Petrino, Davis) likely won't get the job considering we are on probation and Hart stressed he wanted to hire coaches with "integrity". To me that comment implicitly ruled out at least Petrino and potentially all candidates with previous NCAA run-ins.

Davis has no issues he was cleared of any wrong doing! That being said it is more of who I least like on this list. Golden is the winner. If we get him we are done

 

[RockyTop85]

Petrino hasn't had any NCAA issues just personal issues. He's a liar.

If he is hired I will be upset. As an alum, I feel there are things more important than winning and having that dude as the face of the university would disgust me.

 

[deckerkd]

Butch Davis' name has surfaced. Thoughts?

Good recruiter with strong NFL ties. He would be a good candidate. Do you notice how Miami fans keep calling on 104.5 and saying how luck we would be to have Golden. They must want him gone already! He has done nothing but lose his whole career. Now he has got FS having mediocre success he would be another DD here

 

[deckerkd]

I do not understand all the Strong love. He needs a few more years before he's ready for a job this size.

Agree Strong would be a last call

 

[governmentmule]

after rereading some of this thread ,most have been eliminated for one reason or the other

Fisher is one,that will be hard to tell about
Fedora seems to be the one,that sounds good
Davis has some baggage,i don't think that will be overlooked,could come back in 2 years
Golden,didn't he say today,that he is staying ?


I'm guessing Fedora or somebody out of left field

 

[RockyTop85]

after rereading some of this thread ,most have been eliminated except for one reason or the other

Fisher is one,that will be hard to tell about
Fedora seems to be the one,that sounds good
Davis has some baggage,i don't think that will be overlooked,could come back in 2 years
Golden,didn't he say today,that he is staying ?


I'm guessing Fedora or somebody out of left field

I haven't seen too many complain about Greg Roman or come up with an excuse other than maybe time table. I like Fedora okay, I like Fisher and Strong better but those 4 would be my second tier right now assuming Patterson and Petersen haven't said no.