I'll ask: The pink elephant in the room.....

#51
#51
lawgator1 said:
Well, that might be the effect then -- to place Obama in the same light as prior POTUS' who have been perceived as much stronger on national security than Obama. Don't think he'll be getting that criticism this go 'round.
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sorry but this does nothing to pump up his national security cred. He signed an order to kill OBL. Name me a Pres who would not have done the exact same thing
 
#52
#52
utvolpj said:
sorry but this does nothing to pump up his national security cred. He signed an order to kill OBL. Name me a Pres who would not have done the exact same thing
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any president who refused to do that would be run out of office. if he wanted to remain president he had no choice.
 
#54
#54
lawgator1 said:
Why?

Leaks in the past had doomed similar efforts.

Also, as has been pointed out by others, Obama was the one who ordered that it be a kill mission.And, it was Obama's administration (and ultimately him) that decided to go right past the Pakistani government and not create opportunity for delay or warning or missing the opportunity just because of the passage of time.

I am not saying the act of ordering forces to attack is something any other POTUS could not or would not have done. Just saying Obama and his administration executed this in a manner that was effective in respect to ways in which previous efforts failed.
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I refuse to allow your ignorance to earn me a 3 day vacation from VN, but you've lost your damn mind if you truly think that your savior Obama wanted Osama killed worse than Bush did.
 
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#58
TXVOL07 said:
Those who are less informed and ignorant enough to refute factual evidence will undoubtedly proclaim Obama is the sole reason Osama Bin Laden is dead.
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3rd time's a charm

lawgator1 said:
Leaks in the past had doomed similar efforts.

Also, as has been pointed out by others, Obama was the one who ordered that it be a kill mission.

And, it was Obama's administration (and ultimately him) that decided to go right past the Pakistani government and not create opportunity for delay or warning or missing the opportunity just because of the passage of time.

Just saying Obama and his administration executed this in a manner that was effective in respect to ways in which previous efforts failed.
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therealUT said:
Prior to 9/11. Different world; different situation.
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I think other POTUS would have regardless....He blew up a Navy ship killing sailors. Hell, Kadafi just drew a line of death and was almost roasted for it.
 
#63
#63
TXVOL07 said:
I refuse to allow your ignorance to earn me a 3 day vacation from VN, but you've lost your damn mind if you truly think that your savior Obama wanted Osama killed worse than Bush did.
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I think the shock for me was that BO actually did it.
 
#64
#64
cd12 said:
I think other POTUS would have regardless....He blew up a Navy ship killing sailors. Hell, Kadafi just drew a line of death and was almost roasted for it.
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exactly. he had already killed american citizens.
 
#68
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droski said:
if he didn't order it and that came out he'd had zero chance of being reelected.
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ahh ppl have short memories....if gas drops and jobs rise he has a cake walk regardless of foreign policy.
 
#70
#70
this was also put in motion by a tip 4 years ago from a detainee in Guantanamo- a place Obama wanted closed
 
#72
#72
Voters have short memories. He can hope that there is a renewed sense of optimism that helps jump start the economy.
 
#73
#73
What do you make that it was Gitmo info so vilified by Dems that started the ball rolling?
 
#74
#74
I wonder if Obama will take credit for
signing-off on the "extraction" of the courier's identity at Gitmo.

Every indication points to the fact that Pakistan did not give permission for this operation and our birds weren't even pinged by Pakistani radar.
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#75
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lawgator1 said:
Mmmmmm... I think he had to pull the "all Muslims aren't terrorists" card given what had just occurred in terms of going into Pakistan to attack the compound. From what I have seen on tv, this was one large estate in the midst of a really upscale area, with a lot of wealthy people. It would have been disastrous to be wrong.

It also helps I think portray this as good for the whole world, not just the U.S., to say that it was about Bin Laden and terrorism, not about Muslims in general.
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if hussein was wrong, the media would not have covered the mistake. so either way, it would not have hurt him.
 
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