Illinois parade shooting spree

[lawgator1]

Fact is, we all look at his photo and make assumptions.

See him in photos at Trump events or wearing his flag or what not, and make assumptions.

Read he was a gamer and did weird music videos, and make assumptions.

Because we cannot know which of these things, if any, is a sure fire way to know a person is at risk and so should not be given an assault rifle, the presumption ought to be the other way around. That is to say, rather than the State having to justify why you should not be able to purchase such a firearm simply when you walk in the door, the burden ought to be on the buyer to prove he is mentally stable and has no indicators of a heightened threat.

Put the burden where it belongs, on the gun purchaser. Can use a simple affidavit from a licensed psychiatrist provider that after reasonable inquiry and interview, there is no disqualifying attribute or condition. Easily done. Costs very little, especially compared to the cost of the rifle.

 

[allvol123]

Stfu

 

[Vol8188]

Fact is, we all look at his photo and make assumptions.

See him in photos at Trump events or wearing his flag or what not, and make assumptions.

Read he was a gamer and did weird music videos, and make assumptions.

Because we cannot know which of these things, if any, is a sure fire way to know a person is at risk and so should not be given an assault rifle, the presumption ought to be the other way around. That is to say, rather than the State having to justify why you should not be able to purchase such a firearm simply when you walk in the door, the burden ought to be on the buyer to prove he is mentally stable and has no indicators of a heightened threat.

Put the burden where it belongs, on the gun purchaser. Can use a simple affidavit from a licensed psychiatrist provider that after reasonable inquiry and interview, there is no disqualifying attribute or condition. Easily done. Costs very little, especially compared to the cost of the rifle.

Can you explain how this would’ve prevented him? Because the answer seems to be no

 

[Jxn Vol]

Why are we just now concerned about shooting in Chicago?

It happens literally every single day.

 

[allvol123]

Can you explain how this would’ve prevented him? Because the answer seems to be no

You’d get left wing psychiatrists deeming everyone not sane enough to buy a gun.

Also, for the fear of having signed an approval of someone that goes on to do this, they would all err on the side of a no vote.

 

[lawgator1]

Can you explain how this would’ve prevented him? Because the answer seems to be no

If he had these issues we are hearing about the likelihood is that he would not have sought one (an affidavit from a licensed professional) in the first place. Had he done so and a reasonably competent evaluation performed, it at least might have caught his malaise.

I'm not saying its fool proof but that is not the test. The question is, is it reasonable to ask purchasers of such weapons to undertake some minimal effort to show that they are not high risk.

 

[C-south]

If he had these issues we are hearing about the likelihood is that he would not have sought one (an affidavit from a licensed professional) in the first place. Had he done so and a reasonably competent evaluation performed, it at least might have caught his malaise.

I'm not saying its fool proof but that is not the test. The question is, is it reasonable to ask purchasers of such weapons to undertake some minimal effort to show that they are not high risk.

Which other rights should we apply this to?

 

[Vol8188]

If he had these issues we are hearing about the likelihood is that he would not have sought one (an affidavit from a licensed professional) in the first place. Had he done so and a reasonably competent evaluation performed, it at least might have caught his malaise.

I'm not saying its fool proof but that is not the test. The question is, is it reasonable to ask purchasers of such weapons to undertake some minimal effort to show that they are not high risk.

Which issues specifically did he have that I’m missing? I haven’t heard much other than the speculation about his tats

 

[allvol123]

Which issues specifically did he have that I’m missing? I haven’t heard much other than the speculation about his tats

He was a Trumper. Stamp of “DENIED”.

 

[Vol8188]

He was a Trumper. Stamp of “DENIED”.

Except he wasn’t

 

[NorthDallas40]

Which issues specifically did he have that I’m missing? I haven’t heard much other than the speculation about his tats

Police were called to his home on suicide threats and then again on threats to “kill everyone”. Police removed multiple knives. I had heard firearms removed also but that doesn’t appear to be supported but the knives removal was in the police records.

Dude is crazy.

 

[allvol123]

Except he wasn’t

Either way, that is the kind of stuff you would get with that nonsense.

He wants a profession that has completely screwed up a particular issue, a issue that has led to millions of deaths, to be the gatekeeper for one of our rights.

 

[Vol8188]

Police were called to his home on suicide threats and then again on threats to “kill everyone”. Police removed multiple knives. I had heard firearms removed also but that doesn’t appear to be supported but the knives removal was in the police records.

Dude is crazy.

So it likely wasn’t even his gun

 

[NorthDallas40]

Either way, that is the kind of stuff you would get with that nonsense.

He wants a profession that has completely screwed up a particular issue, a issue that has led to millions of deaths, to be the gatekeeper for one of our rights.

It is a messed up situation. I trust psychiatry to preserve my individual rights about as much as I trust the government to do so

 

[NorthDallas40]

So it likely wasn’t even his gun

They have the weapon and I believe have confirmed it was his. There was another weapon in his car when he was arrested.

My take is the system failed. Again. Just like Uvalde.

 

[Vol8188]

They have the weapon and I believe have confirmed it was his. There was another weapon in his car when he was arrested.

My take is the system failed. Again. Just like Uvalde.

Possibly. Have they identified the weapon. All I heard was something like “high powered rifle”

 

[NorthDallas40]

Possibly. Have they identified the weapon. All I heard was something like “high powered rifle”

A weapon “similar to an AR-15”. I’ll guess Mini 14 or AR-10. Probably not an AR-10 since his bony ass likely couldn’t manage the recoil.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Highland Park July 4th shooting suspect's Parents were 'a problem,' says former coach

The parents of accused Highland Park, Illinois, shooter Robert ‘Bobby’ Crimo III were "a problem" and always the last to pick him up from his afterschool sports program, the suspect's former coach told Fox News Digital.

"I remember the parents more than him because they were kind of a problem," recalled Jeremy Cahnmann, who ran an after school sports program at Lincoln Elementary School. "There wasn't a lot of love in that family."

Crimo was 9 or 10 when he was enrolled in Cahnmann's Nerf football program, along with his younger brother. "Every week, the Crimos were the last kids there, and we'd have to call their parents to pick them up," the former coach said, speaking of Crimo's dad, Bob Crimo, 58, and his mom, Denise Pesina, 48.

Pesina, however, was a handful, he said. "She got into it once with one of the heads of the program, she was yelling," he recalled. "It seemed like her kids were a nuisance to her."

"The signs were there for a long time," said a neighbor of Crimo. "There were always police cars at the house. The parents were arguing, fighting all the time."

Pesina is a self-proclaimed energy healer with her company called Trilogy Energy Systems, according to her Facebook page. His father once ran for mayor and had a local sandwich shop, Bob's Pantry and Deli, that has since shuttered.

The mom seemed unstable while the father was well liked in the community, locals told Fox News Digital.

Highland Park July 4th shooting suspect's parents were 'a problem,' says former coach

 

[kiddiedoc]

Because we cannot know which of these things, if any, is a sure fire way to know a person is at risk and so should not be given an assault rifle,

Wait, he had an assault rifle now?

FYI: it's actually very difficult (and expensive) to obtain an assault rifle.

 

[hog88]

Fact is, we all look at his photo and make assumptions.

See him in photos at Trump events or wearing his flag or what not, and make assumptions.

Read he was a gamer and did weird music videos, and make assumptions.

Because we cannot know which of these things, if any, is a sure fire way to know a person is at risk and so should not be given an assault rifle, the presumption ought to be the other way around. That is to say, rather than the State having to justify why you should not be able to purchase such a firearm simply when you walk in the door, the burden ought to be on the buyer to prove he is mentally stable and has no indicators of a heightened threat.

Put the burden where it belongs, on the gun purchaser. Can use a simple affidavit from a licensed psychiatrist provider that after reasonable inquiry and interview, there is no disqualifying attribute or condition. Easily done. Costs very little, especially compared to the cost of the rifle.

Get to work on amending the constitution or STFU.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

REVEALED: Little Boy, 2, Found Bloodied and alone during Highland Park parade shooting is ORPHANED after Both His Parents Were Killed in Massacre

A two year-old boy found bloodied and alone during the Highland Park shooting on and lifted from underneath his father is an orphan after both his parents were killed in the attack.

A GoFundMe page was established to help Aiden's family with 'raising, caring for and supporting' him. The account had raised more than $454,000 as of 6pm EST Tuesday evening.

Two-year-old Aiden McCarthy (pictured) was left orphaned Monday after his parents were both killed during the Highland Park parade shooting

Irina McCarthy, 35, (left) and Kevin McCarthy, 37, (right) were among the seven people killed in Highland Park, Illinois on Monday when a 21-year-old shooter opened fire on Fourth of July parade with an AR-15 style weapon

Little boy, 2, found bloodied and alone during Highland Park parade shooting is ORPHANED | Daily Mail Online

 

[hog88]

If he had these issues we are hearing about the likelihood is that he would not have sought one (an affidavit from a licensed professional) in the first place. Had he done so and a reasonably competent evaluation performed, it at least might have caught his malaise.

I'm not saying its fool proof but that is not the test. The question is, is it reasonable to ask purchasers of such weapons to undertake some minimal effort to show that they are not high risk.

No it is not reasonable, now get to work on amending the constitution.

 

[lawgator1]

REVEALED: Little Boy, 2, Found Bloodied and alone during Highland Park parade shooting is ORPHANED after Both His Parents Were Killed in Massacre

A two year-old boy found bloodied and alone during the Highland Park shooting on and lifted from underneath his father is an orphan after both his parents were killed in the attack.

A GoFundMe page was established to help Aiden's family with 'raising, caring for and supporting' him. The account had raised more than $454,000 as of 6pm EST Tuesday evening.

Two-year-old Aiden McCarthy (pictured) was left orphaned Monday after his parents were both killed during the Highland Park parade shooting

Irina McCarthy, 35, (left) and Kevin McCarthy, 37, (right) were among the seven people killed in Highland Park, Illinois on Monday when a 21-year-old shooter opened fire on Fourth of July parade with an AR-15 style weapon

Little boy, 2, found bloodied and alone during Highland Park parade shooting is ORPHANED | Daily Mail Online

Yay guns

 

[hog88]

Police were called to his home on suicide threats and then again on threats to “kill everyone”. Police removed multiple knives. I had heard firearms removed also but that doesn’t appear to be supported but the knives removal was in the police records.

Dude is crazy.

Oh so the system failed AGAIN? That must mean we need to punish the law abiding.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Oh so the system failed AGAIN? That must mean we need to punish the law abiding.

Stupid as hell dude. So the system keeps failing with the powers already granted to the morons to intervene in an obvious and documented case here so the clear answer is they need more damn powers!

Just like Uvalde.

Idiots.