In games Barton scores 13 or more points...

#51
#51
Can we all just agree Barton most of the year hasn't given much, 6 games you're talking about and we have played 29 total, and Golden under Cuonzo wasn't the player we all hoped? And beer is good.
 
#53
#53
Every time Trae has a good game, people start jocking him. Go check his stat lines game by game. Same story, different team. He is the same player he was here. People act like he has left here and become some great guard and it's not true. He is the same guy he was here. He can lead your team in scoring and be SEC player of the week 2 times in one season or he can be the guy who throws up a 0-10fg, 0-5 3pt, 0 rebounds, 2 assists in 31 minutes like he did against Notre Dame w/ GaTech.

I'll take my chances with Barton and what he brings.
 
#55
#55
BadJerry20 said:
Meh, one could argue Jordys light just finally turned on, the talent was obviously always there. You could say Martin helped that, but don't know that for sure. I've played with guys that it just clicked one day. You could argue Maymon just got minutes. Both guys were top 50 players. Stokes and Josh have improved no doubt. Moore, Q, Edwards, and Reese are all the exact same guys skills wise as when they stepped on campus. If the last 4 had been developed, our bench wouldn't suck.

So basically besides Josh nobody under a top 50 recruit has really developed since he's been here. How many guys are top 50 players next year?
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bleedingTNorange said:
So now all those guys have improved?

I though nobody has improved under Martin. It's whatever fits the current argument I guess.
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Or you could learn to read, especially since you spazz when people misquote you. Solid attempt to avoid the fact that your initial argument was dumb though.
 
#56
#56
SeniorDrill said:
"With an important win within its grasp, Trae Golden was perfect for Georgia Tech. Golden scored 16 points, including six clutch free throws in the final seconds, and the Yellow Jackets stunned struggling and seventh-ranked Syracuse 67-62 on Tuesday night. "I kind of went back to when I was a kid and just knocked them in," said Golden, who was 8 of 8 from the free throw line. "My dad used to make me nervous when I was younger. It made me think about that calm. It really helped me out."
Golden is the leading scorer for Tech at 12.7 and was just selected to the Atlantic Coast Conference All-Academic team majoring in Science, Technology, and Culture.
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Well we know he is pretty good at "studying biology"
 
#58
#58
Stoked4Zo said:
Your doing the same thing man. You are making an argument that the team is 6-0 when Barton scores 13+ but at the same time saying that we don't need him to score we need his defense over Trae's offense.
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He's not doing the same thing, because I didn't do it to begin with. Lol
 
#59
#59
bleedingTNorange said:
Barton guards better than Golden, that can't even be argued.

Barton is a career 40% three point shooter, that's what this team needs from PG, not a guy driving the lane throwing up 15 shots a game while hitting 30% of them.

What's Barton's percentages from 3 in the 6 games we won? That's my point.
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Barton is a better defender. Golden is a better scorer. You act like Golden is awful at 3 and Barton is so much better. Golden 39 3 pointers made 124 attempted. Barton 36 made 109 attempted. Barton 33% and Golden 31%...
 
#60
#60
Stoked4Zo said:
Barton is a better defender. Golden is a better scorer. You act like Golden is awful at 3 and Barton is so much better. Golden 39 3 pointers made 124 attempted. Barton 36 made 109 attempted. Barton 33% and Golden 31%...
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And Barton is a career 40% shooter from 3 while Golden is around a career 30% shooter from 3.

Yea, that's quite a difference man.

Like I said, this team doesn't need 12-15 shots a game coming from the PG position, that's taking too many shots away from Jarnell and Jordan.

And your go to has been as a distributor, as I pointed out, Barton is the better distributor this year, not Golden.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Every time Trae has a good game, people start jocking him. Go check his stat lines game by game. Same story, different team. He is the same player he was here. People act like he has left here and become some great guard and it's not true. He is the same guy he was here. He can lead your team in scoring and be SEC player of the week 2 times in one season or he can be the guy who throws up a 0-10fg, 0-5 3pt, 0 rebounds, 2 assists in 31 minutes like he did against Notre Dame w/ GaTech.

I'll take my chances with Barton and what he brings.
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Barton went 0-1 with 0 points against WSU, 0-8 against NCST, 0-4 vs UK, 0-7 vs Mizzou, 0-5 vs TAMU
 
#65
#65
bleedingTNorange said:
And Barton is a career 40% shooter from 3 while Golden is around a career 30% shooter from 3.

Yea, that's quite a difference man.

Like I said, this team doesn't need 12-15 shots a game coming from the PG position, that's taking too many shots away from Jarnell and Jordan.

And your go to has been as a distributor, as I pointed out, Barton is the better distributor this year, not Golden.
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Who cares if he is a 40% career 3 point shooter. He is shooting 33% this year. Great he shot 40%+ at Memphis. He's at UT shooting 33%. That's great he doesn't turn it over and plays some decent defense but he has also scored 5 points or less 11 times this year during some important games. Give me Golden who might have a couple more TO's that is actually going to score some points. Who will go into a top 10 teams arena and drop 16 points. I'll take that instead.
 
#67
#67
bleedingTNorange said:
My post







Your head
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Vol fans fighting, having pissing contests in every thread.. welcome to the Cuonzo era. No different than the Dooley era. Fact is they both suck. And we saw player development, but zero TEAM development. And the records for each coach shows.
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
Who cares if he is a 40% career 3 point shooter. He is shooting 33% this year. Great he shot 40%+ at Memphis. He's at UT shooting 33%. That's great he doesn't turn it over and plays some decent defense but he has also scored 5 points or less 11 times this year during some important games. Give me Golden who might have a couple more TO's that is actually going to score some points. Who will go into a top 10 teams arena and drop 16 points. I'll take that instead.
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We've tried Golden, it didn't work. We are in a better spot with Barton than we ever were with Golden, it's pretty simple.

Like I said, my OP is about how good we are when we get the Barton we thought we were gonna get. We all know the consistency issues, but when Barton plays well this team is better than it would be with a good Golden.

How much did we beat UVA by with Golden? Sure we smashed a NIT UK team, but with both playing their best ball I think Barton is a better fit.

As I said, the way the year ends will decide ultimately this IMO. If UT wins out, makes the dance, no doubt who the better option was IMO.
 
#74
#74
bleedingTNorange said:
We've tried Golden, it didn't work. We are in a better spot with Barton than we ever were with Golden, it's pretty simple.

Like I said, my OP is about how good we are when we get the Barton we thought we were gonna get. We all know the consistency issues, but when Barton plays well this team is better than it would be with a good Golden.

How much did we beat UVA by with Golden?
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Same can be said about Golden and Wichita State last year who dropped 25 on them and won. Regardless both are inconsistent. Both have had good games both have had bad. Golden had less help while he was here and Barton has more. Golden's the better scorer, Barton is the better defender. We are in the same situation with both, still on the bubble. I'm done arguing. CCM is to blame more than both of them anyways.

/10-4 over and out BBB
Edit: BBATCC
Bring Back Anyone That Can Coach
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
Same can be said about Golden and Wichita State last year who dropped 25 on them and won. Regardless both are inconsistent. Both have had good games both have had bad. Golden had less help while he was here and Barton has more. Golden's the better scorer, Barton is the better defender. We are in the same situation with both, still on the bubble. I'm done arguing. CCM is to blame more than both of them anyways.

/10-4 over and out BBB
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Agree completely

GBO
 
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